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Leopold Aschenbrenner essay on the AI arms race that will change world by 2027

Really good read and a podcast he did about it. Dude is ver...
bright library
  06/12/24
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bright library
  06/12/24
pretty chill that the world will end in five years and I spe...
Pale unholy step-uncle's house philosopher-king
  06/12/24
It’s part of the data set
bright library
  06/12/24
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apoplectic glassy athletic conference pocket flask
  06/12/24
*superintelligent AI addressing the world* "I'm gay an...
Contagious lodge cuckoldry
  06/12/24
180000000000000000000000000000
apoplectic glassy athletic conference pocket flask
  06/12/24
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bright library
  06/14/24
He just had another podcast with Chollet that was interestin...
Impressive cyan tattoo theater
  06/12/24
nothing being done in "ai" right now is a road to ...
Snowy public bath wrinkle
  06/12/24
This is not right. The trend lines are clear.
bright library
  06/13/24
no
Snowy public bath wrinkle
  06/13/24
Most people seem like pattern matchers who aren’t able...
Impressive cyan tattoo theater
  06/13/24
llms far surpass humans at defined, stereotyped tasks that w...
Snowy public bath wrinkle
  06/13/24
I agree with this but most people suck at dealing with novel...
Impressive cyan tattoo theater
  06/13/24
this is silly
Snowy public bath wrinkle
  06/13/24
I, for one, cant wait for AI to do all my TPS reports for me...
zombie-like plaza
  06/13/24
The interesting thing about his essay is the geopolitics par...
bright library
  06/13/24
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bright library
  06/16/24
Ivanka read it and endorsed it. Can’t believe how much...
Impressive cyan tattoo theater
  10/27/24
There’s like a five percent chance of total destructio...
bright library
  10/27/24
And the other scenarios? I don’t see much room for an ...
Impressive cyan tattoo theater
  10/27/24
pretty sure something like Idiocracy covers most of the 90%
Milky beady-eyed base
  10/27/24
Nope. It's going to be a post-scarcity utopia, extinction, o...
out-of-control trust fund
  10/27/24
Right. Like what would be a plausible middle ground with hyp...
Impressive cyan tattoo theater
  10/27/24
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bright library
  11/01/24
Where r we on this
.,.,.,.,,,,.,,.,.,.,...,,..,,
  07/31/26
We are currently at a point where AI has surpassed almost al...
The Penis
  07/31/26
lol we’ve got a live one here folks
.,.,.,.,,,,.,,.,.,.,...,,..,,
  07/31/26
Do you think you are more intelligent than Claude Fable?
The Penis
  07/31/26
Yes
.,.,.,.,,,,.,,.,.,.,...,,..,,
  07/31/26
He seems extremely gay (but I guess he isn't?) https://x....
Ceci n'est pas un pumo
  07/31/26


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Date: June 12th, 2024 3:47 PM
Author: bright library

Really good read and a podcast he did about it. Dude is very smart.

tl;dr version: superintelligence is within reach and the capex to get there is being spent, the teams are being assembled, the power plants built, etc.; eventually US government will step in to oversee the project as a kind of Manhattan Project because a six-month head start is the equivalent of 20-30 years in arms development; things get really weird from a game theory perspective once superintelligence is achieved but before the robots take over. It's US v. China with the Middle East and Russia posing major risks because of their abundant natural energy resources.

Essay: https://situational-awareness.ai/

Four-hour podcast: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/leopold-aschenbrenner

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#47740848)



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Date: June 12th, 2024 4:28 PM
Author: bright library



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Date: June 12th, 2024 4:50 PM
Author: Pale unholy step-uncle's house philosopher-king

pretty chill that the world will end in five years and I spend my precious remaining days poasting on a decrepit law school admissions forum

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#47741056)



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Date: June 12th, 2024 6:14 PM
Author: bright library

It’s part of the data set

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#47741277)



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Date: June 12th, 2024 7:22 PM
Author: apoplectic glassy athletic conference pocket flask



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Date: June 12th, 2024 7:25 PM
Author: Contagious lodge cuckoldry

*superintelligent AI addressing the world*

"I'm gay and retarded"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#47741568)



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Date: June 12th, 2024 7:26 PM
Author: apoplectic glassy athletic conference pocket flask

180000000000000000000000000000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#47741570)



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Date: June 14th, 2024 9:03 PM
Author: bright library



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Date: June 12th, 2024 7:22 PM
Author: Impressive cyan tattoo theater

He just had another podcast with Chollet that was interesting and raised some concerns about this LLM maximalist point of view. LLMs still perform quite poorly on ARC. There are real concerns that transformer scaling will not address all the problems with out of distribution generalization and algorithmic reasoning. This buys a bit of time and probably pushes out timelines past 2027. Things will become progressively weirder though over the next decade and it’s hard to see how AGI is out more than 15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#47741554)



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Date: June 12th, 2024 7:29 PM
Author: Snowy public bath wrinkle

nothing being done in "ai" right now is a road to actual intelligence. what we have right now is essentially a sophisticated version of a database that can accept unstructured queries and that can interpolate between dataset entries. it would take a complete paradigm shift to get to something qualitatively more powerful than that. may or may not happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#47741579)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 11:34 AM
Author: bright library

This is not right. The trend lines are clear.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#47743102)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 12:51 PM
Author: Snowy public bath wrinkle

no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#47743420)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 1:23 PM
Author: Impressive cyan tattoo theater

Most people seem like pattern matchers who aren’t able to robustly deal with novel situations. I would trust GPT-4 more to solve a random math word problem or answer RC questions from an LSAT than most people. The interpolation/extrapolation distinction becomes less and less meaningful in high dimensional spaces when you are training on everything. I agree LLMs don’t go all the way but they very likely go a lot further than they do now and there are other things in the AI space used for game playing that look like they can be combined with LLMs to bootstrap capabilities.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#47743513)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 2:01 PM
Author: Snowy public bath wrinkle

llms far surpass humans at defined, stereotyped tasks that we have a lot of data for. they can't generalize to unseen environments (new probability distributions) and they lack an inherent teleology to prompt them interact with those environments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#47743680)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 2:47 PM
Author: Impressive cyan tattoo theater

I agree with this but most people suck at dealing with novel situations too and they can’t even do the routine cognitive tasks that GPT-4 excels at. I don’t think a median human could be made competitive with it at reading comprehension tasks. With 100x the training compute, there is no chance. There is really no principled reason why LLMs paired with model based RL couldn’t be made data efficient and adaptable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#47743890)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 4:14 PM
Author: Snowy public bath wrinkle

this is silly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#47744229)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 11:39 AM
Author: zombie-like plaza

I, for one, cant wait for AI to do all my TPS reports for me. Whatever will I do once those are automated? Never mind that basically everything we do in Compliance is bespoke transaction monitoring and the vanilla bulk transaction stuff was automated 24-25 years ago and hasnt had humans involved in a generation anyway.

Like the biggest thing is Compliance now is marijuana and the hemp exemption BS that plagues us. The fuck is AI going to do about any of that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#47743117)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 11:43 AM
Author: bright library

The interesting thing about his essay is the geopolitics part. The time when AGI is pursued by private companies is coming to a close.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#47743136)



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Date: June 16th, 2024 7:28 PM
Author: bright library



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Date: October 27th, 2024 3:00 PM
Author: Impressive cyan tattoo theater

Ivanka read it and endorsed it. Can’t believe how much AI is starting to affect elite thinking

https://x.com/IvankaTrump/status/1839002887600370145

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#48246542)



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Date: October 27th, 2024 5:15 PM
Author: bright library

There’s like a five percent chance of total destruction and a five percent chance of positive total transformation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#48247027)



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Date: October 27th, 2024 6:20 PM
Author: Impressive cyan tattoo theater

And the other scenarios? I don’t see much room for an outcome in between.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#48247316)



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Date: October 27th, 2024 6:22 PM
Author: Milky beady-eyed base

pretty sure something like Idiocracy covers most of the 90%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#48247323)



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Date: October 27th, 2024 6:24 PM
Author: out-of-control trust fund

Nope. It's going to be a post-scarcity utopia, extinction, or some sort of truly weird outcome like everyone being uploaded into a simulation of something retarded for eternity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#48247333)



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Date: October 27th, 2024 8:36 PM
Author: Impressive cyan tattoo theater

Right. Like what would be a plausible middle ground with hyper intelligent machines? You would have to believe intelligence tops at exactly the human level, when we have many reasons for believing that is not the case. Life can not go on in a normal way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#48247755)



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Date: November 1st, 2024 9:37 PM
Author: bright library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#48270046)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 12:16 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,,,,.,,.,.,.,...,,..,,


Where r we on this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#50035998)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 12:23 AM
Author: The Penis

We are currently at a point where AI has surpassed almost all if not all humans in intelligence. And it's not even 2027 yet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#50036002)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 12:25 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,,,,.,,.,.,.,...,,..,,


lol we’ve got a live one here folks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#50036007)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 12:26 AM
Author: The Penis

Do you think you are more intelligent than Claude Fable?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#50036009)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 12:45 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,,,,.,,.,.,.,...,,..,,


Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#50036028)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 1:57 AM
Author: Ceci n'est pas un pumo

He seems extremely gay (but I guess he isn't?)

https://x.com/dnapway/status/2082876150322540657

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2.#50036052)