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Paralegal mo, does mpas Iranian wife really support this war?
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Date: April 7th, 2026 6:13 PM Author: capeshit watcher (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5854716&forum_id=2.#49801535) |
Date: April 7th, 2026 6:16 PM Author: Paralegal Marandi (Death, death to the IDF!) He has toned it down because I mocked him for marrying a Shah supporter but when the "protests" were ongoing he was poasting some incredible cuck content.
Like most Shah supporters she is probably concern threading about "the Iranian people" broadly now that her and all the diaspora trash were thoroughly exposed and embarrassed. |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:48 PM Author: regional source (No Future) Nah I just decided I didn’t need to indulge an Islamophobic Jew’s weird shtick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5854716&forum_id=2.#49801961) |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:50 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5854716&forum_id=2.#49801964) |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 6:21 PM Author: Diesel (luis) If true, I don’t really blame her. Ordinary Iranians have been heavily brainwashed by the pro Israeli satellite media propaganda outlets (Iran international) and there was intense peer pressure and bullying from the pahlavists on social media to support war. Normie Iranians with 0 political insight were radicalized by the fucking idiot Pahlavi and his team and generally too dumb to comprehend what was happening.
Hopefully Iranians will wake up from this embarrassing movement soon. Some are already regretting it
For now, I stay far away from any Pahlavi supporting pro-war friends and I may never be friends with the diehard extreme ones again. I do, however, frequently mock them online because it’s 180 and hilarious |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 6:36 PM Author: Paralegal Marandi (Death, death to the IDF!) They deserve blame for the damage they did to the reputation of ordinary Iranians. People died because of it. A lot of it required peeling back because the diaspora actively hated its own people, I don’t think you can just brush that away
There wasn’t a singe prominent IRI supporter or even a nuanced voice among the diaspora, they were all peddling lies and I think a lot of it was due to seeing themselves as Aryan and non-Muslim |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:09 PM Author: regional source (No Future) The diaspora hated its own people by calling for war
So how much more does the IR hate its own people by massacring them? |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 6:41 PM Author: the word envy ceasing to exist (gunneratttt) if what you're saying is true it's no suprise that a Woman would align herself with the consensus. she can't really even be blamed for it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5854716&forum_id=2.#49801691) |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 6:45 PM Author: Diesel (luis) Exactly…i forgive women because they are built to conform and this was sold to them as a necessary evil to overthrow the oppressive Iranian regime (and they were manipulated by the “30,000 protestors died…we need to do this for them” rhetoric) . This was heavily pushed online on social media among Iranians and had a lot of support. Even some people I assumed were intelligent were falling for it
It was both very sad and sobering for me to witness all this in the run up to this war |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 6:50 PM Author: the word envy ceasing to exist (gunneratttt) cr. ive seen it happen on things im passionate about and have been similarly sad.
ultimately the onus is on men to push to consensus to where it should be. women will conform to it no matter what. no sense wringing our hands that women are women. they always will be. |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 6:58 PM Author: oomox You guys really believe women are more susceptible to groupthink than men?! That has NOT been my experience. Women are generally less likely to take a strong stance on anything but they're more likely to be independent thinkers than men. Men tend to flock in large numbers to the general male consensus on things. And the ones who don't are often just contrarians across the board, which isn't that different from conformity in that it's not a result of critical thinking.
In the particular case of the propaganda around the Iran protestors, I do believe women were more susceptible to brainwashing because it played on their compassion, as you pointed out. |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:02 PM Author: Diesel (luis) Ty, Perhaps I’m wrong on that point because I’m generally skeptical by nature. But yes, playing to their compassion to manipulate them into supporting war was a huge part of this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5854716&forum_id=2.#49801781) |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:07 PM Author: oomox I know what you mean. It could also just have to do with the people we've met/observed in our lives. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5854716&forum_id=2.#49801799) |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:14 PM Author: the word envy ceasing to exist (gunneratttt) it's a generalization but these generalizations are broadly true. there are certainly women who tend to be critical and independent thinkers and there are certainly men who just go with the consensus and behave like "women."
i agree that this consensus alignment is often rooted in compassion. and you seem to agree that women are innately more susceptible to this, so you agree that women, generally, think differently than men. you can add an asterisk to any generalization i make saying "not ALL X group!" |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:22 PM Author: oomox Yeah I mean if you break it down into "women are more easily brainwashed in A area because of B trait" and "men are more easily brainwashed in C area because of D trait" for every single matter where we see mass brainwashing or conformity, I bet it really could go either way overall. I am pretty confident in my observation that men are more groupthink-y in social groups but that's only one facet of conformity.
(And don't worry, I didn't interpret your generalization as an assertion about ALL women or men.) |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:35 PM Author: the word envy ceasing to exist (gunneratttt) perhaps women are more apt to align with the consensus today because it's often portrayed as the most compassionate or righteous thing, thus playing on the things they value the most.
you're also right that men tend to be more kneejerk contrarian. consuela types who have have a conspiratorial take on everything are almost exclusively men.
but i will say that women tend to much less receptive to views outside the consensus than men. consensus aligned men are much more likely to hear someone out and explain why they disagree, while women are much more likely to get NPC madface over someone with a divergent perspective. and then strawman their POV as rooted in something uncompassionate like bigotry.
stereotypes about women being more emotional exist across all cultures since the beginning of time for a reason. however, i think this is necessary to counterbalance masuline autism. we need both. but it falls on turboaustic men to shift the consensus. some amy wax women can participate too. |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:51 PM Author: oomox Interesting. I believe you about your observations but we've been exposed to different things, I think. I don't really associate with NPC madface shitlibs or even pay attention to them online, so they're not the first group that comes to mind when I'm synthesizing views on How People Think in general. (People at my college were a LITTLE like that, especially 'cause it was the 2010s, but they were always able to think critically when pressed.) I definitely believe you that more of those people are women, although interestingly, it's less gender-aligned in the political class. Of course, as we discussed earlier, politicians' motivations are far different from normal people's.
One area I can think of where the compassion-ruled thinking has led women away from the mainstream narrative, while men tend to eat up the propaganda, is Gaza. For over two years, I've been pretty involved with pro-Palestine movements focused on overthrowing the system (Israel-and-MIC-owned uniparty) rather than working within it. My experience is that this coalition leans female if anything. Maybe it's 50/50. And considering how much of my political involvement right now revolves around rejecting the entire political establishment and how often I look at the world like, "how are these sheeple still so committed to Team Blue or Team Red?!" I naturally consider MY beliefs – and those of the female-leaning groups I align myself with – to be a shining example of independent thinking 😉 |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 8:13 PM Author: the word envy ceasing to exist (gunneratttt) OFS that women tend to be more anti-war, anti-oppression overall.
but another aspect is how firmly rooted those convictions are and how often they are backed up with action. while women might gripe about issues, men are much more likely to go tankman and die for those convictions than women. joan of arc is a notable figure because of how rare it was for a woman to fight and be martyred for her beliefs. you see this across the spectrum of issues. while women might be opposed, they tend to remain civil, which is conformity. i think that instinct (likely biological and rooted in preservation of family) means women do not feel they are permitted to dissent, and are more likely to conform publicly and bitch about shit privately when its safe. men being physically stronger than women and having more political agency historically also probably plays into it.
but your point about men being more groupthinky when it comes to war, order, etc is true. men are far more likely to sign up to die to enrich elites. |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 8:24 PM Author: oomox Oh yeah I definitely agree that women are less willing to die for their convictions. But few people are! And I think your reasons are spot-on as far as their obligations to their families, being physically weaker, and historically having less of a chance to really fight for their beliefs.
I guess my primary definition of nonconformity ITT is just: thinking things through instead of blindly copying the people around you. And my instinct is that I've seen women do that more than men. But it's close, and it totally depends on the issue, so I'm not saying you're wrong if you've observed the opposite. And your point and luiskandarnameh's about what people will DO about a belief – will they risk personal harm by fighting for it? will they admit to it in a social situation? – are important aspects of conformity/nonconformity that I hadn't considered. |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 8:30 PM Author: the word envy ceasing to exist (gunneratttt) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5854716&forum_id=2.#49802106) |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:51 PM Author: luiskandarnameh (🧐) " I am pretty confident in my observation that men are more groupthink-y in social groups but that's only one facet of conformity."
how many female friends do you have who would eg openly admit to voting for trump |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 8:06 PM Author: oomox Can't think of too many male OR female Trump voters because I live in California lol. But I know in mid-2024 two of my female friends were still trying to choose between Trump, RFK, and Stein... not sure who either of them ended up voting for, but IMO even considering independent/third-party candidates demonstrates more willingness to go against the grain than a straight-up Trump vote. We discussed this in a large group and they were totally comfortable admitting they were considering him.
I have two male friends who I know voted for Trump one or more times and both are POASTERS. AFAIK they'd be happy to admit it in large groups, too.
And I have one female and one male friend who voted third-party, while we're tracking that metric.
But obviously I don't know how many secret Trump voters I know, so I can't answer your question about how many people voted for Trump and keep it on the DL to conform. |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 8:20 PM Author: Surfeando las estrellas not | ALL | XOers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5854716&forum_id=2.#49802067) |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 8:58 PM Author: the word envy ceasing to exist (gunneratttt) they are built to conform tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5854716&forum_id=2.#49802225) |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 8:59 PM Author: Surfeando las estrellas (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5854716&forum_id=2.#49802229) |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:09 PM Author: regional source (No Future) She’s not exactly pro war but she’s delighted every time an IRGC scumbag gets ventilated
Her parents and siblings are still in Iran and I heard them talking about the ayatollah getting taken out and they were legit ecstatic
You’re welcome to hate the war and Trump and I’m not pro war but the IR is Stone Age and repulsive
She’s also not pro shah but sees him as the only credible transitional figure. But she thinks the Westwood people who actually want a real monarchy are idiots |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:55 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; All of this is CR except the last part about Pahlavi being credible. He really never was but he was a preposterous joke after he released the “Emergency Booklet” that called for him to be dictator with absolute and secret powers for 2 years (or more if necessary). He lost all credibility then, and the only answer after the massacre in January was to arm, train and logistically support an insurgency that would kill 100k Basij a handful at a time for the next 2 years until the defections break the regime. This war and Pahlavi was the retarded, congenitively declined boomer shortcut answer that both the boomers in the diaspora and Trump gravitated toward because they were too stupid to think through second and third order effects of anything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5854716&forum_id=2.#49801984) |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:56 PM Author: regional source (No Future) I agree with this
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Date: April 7th, 2026 8:34 PM Author: Diesel (luis) Yes, the part about Pahlavi being credible is lol but again, I don’t blame her…. Many Iranians essentially got scammed by that charlatan and his team into believing in him, and there was a lot of propaganda/social pressure among Iranians to accept him because he was “the only alternative to the Islamic republic.” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5854716&forum_id=2.#49802125) |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 8:36 PM Author: regional source (No Future) I assume it’s because there’s no other real oppo figure outside Iran and there’s nostalgia for pre 1979 Iran and so shah taps into that even if it’s fraud and lies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5854716&forum_id=2.#49802130) |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 8:39 PM Author: Diesel (luis) That’s correct. there is no serious and organized opposition movement imo. Maybe that will change after this. We’ll see what unfolds (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5854716&forum_id=2.#49802144) |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 8:41 PM Author: Surfeando las estrellas (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5854716&forum_id=2.#49802149) |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 9:17 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; It’s that plus these people are just drowning in all their unprocessed trauma. If you tell them “ok fight the regime, a bunch of you probably will have to die, but after that things will probably/hopefully be better” and they understandably and rationally look for any alternative. Pahlavi is hopium because he sells this notion that via a literal underpants gnome plan the regime magically disappears and Iran is free. Diaspora all have horrible stories from the trauma that led them to leave, how the median American or European in the early 80s was very racist and would accuse them of taking the embassy hostages, how they never saw their dad again and couldn’t attend his funeral, how xyz brother, uncle, cousin died in the war with Iraq in the 80s etc. etc. and their stories are softbatch bullshit compared to the median Iranian who lived in Iran for the last 30 years. Like you’ll talk to someone at a party and then he’ll walk away and someone casually mentions that he was in jail for 3 years, and then all the women start talking about their various trips into see the religious police because they showed too much hair and had their rusari pulled too far back, and this cousin went to jail because she mouthed off, and that cousin still has scars on his back from when they tortured him. I don’t blame them for grasping for any alternative or getting their hopes up that there’s a shortcut that avoids more pain. But there isn’t. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5854716&forum_id=2.#49802300) |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:16 PM Author: regional source (No Future) She’s also born and raised in Iran so not like some fourth generation Westwood dipshit. She hates the IR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5854716&forum_id=2.#49801844) |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:55 PM Author: butt cheeks of Hormuz (✅🍑) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5854716&forum_id=2.#49801981) |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:56 PM Author: luiskandarnameh (🧐) ? MPA and his wife both went to Auburn afaik (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5854716&forum_id=2.#49801987) |