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How many friends could you call for emotional support for anything and get it?

I can count at least a half dozen before I give up. If I had...
Electric mauve area gaming laptop
  12/16/25
Gay men are fortunate to have so many 'agony aunts' to rely ...
Vibrant rehab boltzmann
  12/16/25
Women love a guy with no friends
Electric mauve area gaming laptop
  12/16/25
afaik men don't call each other for emotional support, we ju...
sick feces
  12/16/25
He's trans
mind-boggling dead bawdyhouse personal credit line
  12/16/25
Sure they do, especially when they are going through divorce...
Electric mauve area gaming laptop
  12/16/25
sounds nice on paper but afaik that is a european and asian ...
sick feces
  12/16/25
I made all my friends by age 16. I still talk to people I've...
Electric mauve area gaming laptop
  12/16/25
Lol you low-T asian loser The ONLY person a man can ever...
mind-boggling dead bawdyhouse personal credit line
  12/16/25
lol found the goy
Black faggotry mother
  12/16/25
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Diverse clown spot
  12/16/25
can you communicate with the other personalities inhabiting ...
dashing gaping coldplay fan
  12/16/25
isn't this basically the plot of inside out
Effete Bossy Toaster Hell
  12/16/25
great joke rsf
dashing gaping coldplay fan
  12/16/25
Not RSF. FizzKidd tp.
Effete Bossy Toaster Hell
  12/16/25
hegemon tp here, military veteran.
Swollen Unhinged Forum Bbw
  12/16/25
stop impersonating my main acct eric bumpus
dashing gaping coldplay fan
  12/16/25
So far the average seems to be zero. That was my guess as we...
Electric mauve area gaming laptop
  12/16/25
NSAM if anyone in your life sincerely cared deeply for you t...
dashing gaping coldplay fan
  12/16/25
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2132894&mc=3...
Electric mauve area gaming laptop
  12/16/25
last week you were gushing about your german street fighter ...
dashing gaping coldplay fan
  12/16/25
I have a HAZMAT trucker friend. Some of these videos have au...
Electric mauve area gaming laptop
  12/16/25
the idea of "calling" someone for "emotional ...
Cerise institution people who are hurt
  12/16/25
What if they call you? Like word gets around that you're dea...
Electric mauve area gaming laptop
  12/16/25
nobody has any idea who i am, and i like it that way
Cerise institution people who are hurt
  12/16/25
'word get around' is even worse
Vibrant rehab boltzmann
  12/16/25
Now if we subtract the imaginary people, NSAM's list is back...
Swollen Unhinged Forum Bbw
  12/16/25
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2132894&mc=3...
Electric mauve area gaming laptop
  12/16/25
*schizo links to 13 year old nonsense thread to prove he's n...
Swollen Unhinged Forum Bbw
  12/16/25
https://i.imgur.com/chK2k5a.jpeg
Electric mauve area gaming laptop
  12/16/25
Wow the last piece of evidence we need to confirm your sanit...
Swollen Unhinged Forum Bbw
  12/16/25
I'm a man. I don't need or want emotional support, whatever ...
Spruce main people karate
  12/16/25
Wow, so no poasters ever had to deal with a dying or dead re...
Electric mauve area gaming laptop
  12/16/25
we talk about it privately with those confidants rather than...
dashing gaping coldplay fan
  12/16/25
I'm a man, so, frankly, none of that stuff is emotionally ch...
Spruce main people karate
  12/16/25
jesus christ, why do you need to call someone to deal with a...
Vibrant rehab boltzmann
  12/16/25
i have grok as my 24-7 therapist. that's all i need.
Gay candlestick maker menage
  12/16/25
Once I had a friend meet me for lunch because i hadnt seen ...
mind-boggling dead bawdyhouse personal credit line
  12/16/25
He was clearly mentally ill. Good call.
Spruce main people karate
  12/16/25
stop talking to yourself u fuckin freak
Effete Bossy Toaster Hell
  12/16/25
So he was a legit friend and you ditched him like he was a f...
twinkling ape
  12/16/25
wtf is one man giving another man emotional support? &quo...
onyx wonderful foreskin
  12/16/25
this thread is benchod
onyx wonderful foreskin
  12/16/25
No one ITT knows any military vets
Electric mauve area gaming laptop
  12/16/25
And now, with a new schizo tangent totally unrelated to anyt...
Swollen Unhinged Forum Bbw
  12/16/25
Wow, RSF really went apeshit ITT
Electric mauve area gaming laptop
  12/16/25
What kind of faggot needs “emotional support” le...
Shivering lake tanning salon
  12/16/25
Anyone bothered by this thread needs help. Look at all the h...
Electric mauve area gaming laptop
  12/16/25
Just so you know, everyone in your life finds you creepy and...
Shivering lake tanning salon
  12/16/25
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2132894&mc=3...
Electric mauve area gaming laptop
  12/16/25
Tons. I actually do this with 4-5 guys per week. But I&rsq...
Aquamarine giraffe
  12/16/25
lmao
Black faggotry mother
  12/16/25
thousands with better help use my promo code (XO25) for 2...
violet national security agency
  12/16/25
I'm not sure what the fuck "emotional support" eve...
Balding locus
  12/16/25
Crrrrr
costumed chapel
  12/16/25
People die for one thing. I girl I knew in HS who got pregna...
Electric mauve area gaming laptop
  12/16/25
"AI" could never come up with something like this,...
costumed chapel
  12/16/25
It's hard to believe, I know. I don't blame you for being sk...
Electric mauve area gaming laptop
  12/16/25
...
Balding locus
  12/16/25
...
dashing gaping coldplay fan
  12/16/25
Have you emailed CSLG about this?
Effete Bossy Toaster Hell
  12/16/25
Is he an ex-JAG now?
Electric mauve area gaming laptop
  12/16/25
One, maybe two, male friends. Plus my dad and brother. Plus...
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Date: December 16th, 2025 12:41 PM
Author: Electric mauve area gaming laptop

I can count at least a half dozen before I give up. If I had to make an exhaustive list it might be 15 people, and I'm not even including family

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513798)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 3:09 PM
Author: Vibrant rehab boltzmann

Gay men are fortunate to have so many 'agony aunts' to rely on. High five.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514346)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 3:11 PM
Author: Electric mauve area gaming laptop

Women love a guy with no friends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514355)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 12:42 PM
Author: sick feces

afaik men don't call each other for emotional support, we just make fun of each other until the pain goes away

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513801)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: mind-boggling dead bawdyhouse personal credit line

He's trans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513805)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 12:57 PM
Author: Electric mauve area gaming laptop

Sure they do, especially when they are going through divorce or having custody issues or dealing with major health issues. A friend of mine got paralyzed in one leg after he had back surgery and was suicidal for a while, so everyone was calling him to talk him regularly for a few months (he's fine now)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513876)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:03 PM
Author: sick feces

sounds nice on paper but afaik that is a european and asian version of friendship that is rarer in america, we either turn to our spouses, our immediate families, sometimes religious institutions. i can't imagine calling a friend for any of that besides a few texts here and there checking in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513907)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:10 PM
Author: Electric mauve area gaming laptop

I made all my friends by age 16. I still talk to people I've known since kindergarten and I was also in a big scout troop and worked summers at places that hired teens from all over. I didn't realize it was abnormal to maintain a network of childhood friends until I was much older. It's hard to give a fuck about people you meet in college, but the friends you have growing up can become like family. You get to know each other's families because you stay at each other's houses all the time.

Anyway it makes me lol to realize how exceedingly UNCOMMON it is for the rest of America. Y'all grew up in some shitty ass towns, that's all I can say

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513930)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 12:42 PM
Author: mind-boggling dead bawdyhouse personal credit line

Lol you low-T asian loser

The ONLY person a man can ever vent to is his mother. Everyone else will think less of you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513803)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 12:55 PM
Author: Black faggotry mother

lol found the goy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513867)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:10 PM
Author: Diverse clown spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49515629)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 12:54 PM
Author: dashing gaping coldplay fan

can you communicate with the other personalities inhabiting your mind?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513857)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 12:55 PM
Author: Effete Bossy Toaster Hell

isn't this basically the plot of inside out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513868)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 12:56 PM
Author: dashing gaping coldplay fan

great joke rsf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513872)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:06 PM
Author: Effete Bossy Toaster Hell

Not RSF. FizzKidd tp.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513918)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:19 PM
Author: Swollen Unhinged Forum Bbw

hegemon tp here, military veteran.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513976)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: dashing gaping coldplay fan

stop impersonating my main acct eric bumpus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514014)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 12:58 PM
Author: Electric mauve area gaming laptop

So far the average seems to be zero. That was my guess as well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513883)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:05 PM
Author: dashing gaping coldplay fan

NSAM if anyone in your life sincerely cared deeply for you they would stage an intervention and get you committed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513913)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:16 PM
Author: Electric mauve area gaming laptop

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2132894&mc=32&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513958)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: dashing gaping coldplay fan

last week you were gushing about your german street fighter friend and now you have a caltrops friend? this is like when dwight schrutes friends were all mall ninja dorks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514027)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: Electric mauve area gaming laptop

I have a HAZMAT trucker friend. Some of these videos have audio. Working with HAZMAT requires a lot of physical strength because you're always moving great heavy loads with heavy machinery

https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5550642&mc=77&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514309)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:00 PM
Author: Cerise institution people who are hurt

the idea of "calling" someone for "emotional support" is horrifying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513893)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:01 PM
Author: Electric mauve area gaming laptop

What if they call you? Like word gets around that you're dealing with something, and all of a sudden you get a call from someone you haven't talked to in years? What if you're the one making the call to someone going through a rough patch?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513900)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:24 PM
Author: Cerise institution people who are hurt

nobody has any idea who i am, and i like it that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513998)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 3:11 PM
Author: Vibrant rehab boltzmann

'word get around' is even worse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514356)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:01 PM
Author: Swollen Unhinged Forum Bbw

Now if we subtract the imaginary people, NSAM's list is back down to 0 LMAO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513898)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:15 PM
Author: Electric mauve area gaming laptop

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2132894&mc=32&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513954)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:16 PM
Author: Swollen Unhinged Forum Bbw

*schizo links to 13 year old nonsense thread to prove he's not insane*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513955)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:17 PM
Author: Electric mauve area gaming laptop

https://i.imgur.com/chK2k5a.jpeg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513961)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:20 PM
Author: Swollen Unhinged Forum Bbw

Wow the last piece of evidence we need to confirm your sanity is probably that picture of $1,200 bucks. No coming back from that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513979)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:03 PM
Author: Spruce main people karate

I'm a man. I don't need or want emotional support, whatever the fuck that means.

That said, I'd be comfortable calling maybe 15 people if I were a gay / fag / woman / lib / etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513906)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:04 PM
Author: Electric mauve area gaming laptop

Wow, so no poasters ever had to deal with a dying or dead relative, or if they did they carried it all by themselves. Fuck talking to anyone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513912)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:06 PM
Author: dashing gaping coldplay fan

we talk about it privately with those confidants rather than create bizarre xo threads bragging about something as ordinary as having friends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513920)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:10 PM
Author: Spruce main people karate

I'm a man, so, frankly, none of that stuff is emotionally challenging for me. It happens and then you just move on. I don't see what's so complicated. Masculine men really don't get emotionally by shit like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513928)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 3:15 PM
Author: Vibrant rehab boltzmann

jesus christ, why do you need to call someone to deal with a family member death? you just fucking deal with it. go for a walk, or work out, or take your dog to beach and play stick with her and get a coffee and walk and think about the happy time with the person you lost and just deal. Dont be a mental midget.

edit/ ok, if you're really in anguish, there's always the priest or rabbi or reverend, most these people have psychotherapy backgrounds. I know a lot of nuns do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514371)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:06 PM
Author: Gay candlestick maker menage

i have grok as my 24-7 therapist. that's all i need.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513917)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:06 PM
Author: mind-boggling dead bawdyhouse personal credit line

Once I had a friend meet me for lunch because i hadnt seen him in a while. He was a security guard at a college, there had been a mass shooting nearby at a college and he told me he was having "anxiety attacks" and was taking meds for it. He said it felt like he couldn't breathe. I told him I'd do anything for him and thanked him for opening up. He paid for the lunch as a gesture of thanks. I blocked his number as soon as I got out in the parking lot and never saw him again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513919)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:19 PM
Author: Spruce main people karate

He was clearly mentally ill. Good call.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513972)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:35 PM
Author: Effete Bossy Toaster Hell

stop talking to yourself u fuckin freak

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514047)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:55 PM
Author: twinkling ape

So he was a legit friend and you ditched him like he was a felon just because he happened to be near a shooting? Unreal. Hope if anything like that ever hits your life, people ice you out for “being nearby” and dealing with trauma. And hey, if you ever get sent to war, better make sure you don’t come back--who'd want to hang out with you after that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514097)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:20 PM
Author: onyx wonderful foreskin

wtf is one man giving another man emotional support?

"oh my penis hurts bro"

"oh no problem man, let me fondle it a bit, tell me where it hurts dude, im here to help"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513981)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:20 PM
Author: onyx wonderful foreskin

this thread is benchod

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49513984)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: Electric mauve area gaming laptop

No one ITT knows any military vets

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514011)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:28 PM
Author: Swollen Unhinged Forum Bbw

And now, with a new schizo tangent totally unrelated to anything TT said...it's NSAM!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514018)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: Electric mauve area gaming laptop

Wow, RSF really went apeshit ITT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514020)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:33 PM
Author: Shivering lake tanning salon

What kind of faggot needs “emotional support” let alone harasses innocent acquaintances for it??

Serious question.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514041)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Electric mauve area gaming laptop

Anyone bothered by this thread needs help. Look at all the hostile responses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514055)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:49 PM
Author: Shivering lake tanning salon

Just so you know, everyone in your life finds you creepy and annoying and wishes you’d leave them alone already.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514076)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 2:54 PM
Author: Electric mauve area gaming laptop

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2132894&mc=32&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514299)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:35 PM
Author: Aquamarine giraffe

Tons. I actually do this with 4-5 guys per week. But I’m in AA and that’s the main thing we do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514048)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 3:03 PM
Author: Black faggotry mother

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514322)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 3:11 PM
Author: violet national security agency

thousands with better help

use my promo code (XO25) for 25% off your first appointment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514350)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 3:11 PM
Author: Balding locus

I'm not sure what the fuck "emotional support" even means

in most cases it means something like "listen to me complain." Some complaining is fine and even necessary to a limited extent. But most of the time sitting there bitching about something ends up reinforcing the attitude that everything sucks and there's no way out. beyond being extremely feminine (in the bad way) this is actually counterproductive

the better question to me is, if you have a problem that you need help solving how many people can you call up and they will help you solve it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514352)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 3:12 PM
Author: costumed chapel

Crrrrr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514358)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 3:15 PM
Author: Electric mauve area gaming laptop

People die for one thing. I girl I knew in HS who got pregnant young, her kid joined the Army, then during training the instructor made him eat some kinda plastic explosive, to demonstrate how safe it was. He said "it's so safe you can eat it," then he ordered my friend's son to eat some. He went to bed in horrible pain and died that night. Many people organized to support her and help her sue the Army

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514370)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 3:16 PM
Author: costumed chapel

"AI" could never come up with something like this, folks

We're still in the clear for a while at least

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514373)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 3:17 PM
Author: Electric mauve area gaming laptop

It's hard to believe, I know. I don't blame you for being skeptical

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514378)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 3:17 PM
Author: Balding locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514379)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 3:19 PM
Author: dashing gaping coldplay fan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514384)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 3:18 PM
Author: Effete Bossy Toaster Hell

Have you emailed CSLG about this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514381)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 3:21 PM
Author: Electric mauve area gaming laptop

Is he an ex-JAG now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49514389)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 7:59 PM
Author: Charismatic Maize Orchestra Pit

One, maybe two, male friends. Plus my dad and brother. Plus a tour bus full of women.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810945&forum_id=2.#49515310)