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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

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know-it-all forum
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confused grizzly whorehouse depressive
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they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
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much more than that
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anal rape?
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But also some negative consequences
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Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
confused grizzly whorehouse depressive
  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
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Startled Orchid Ratface Police Squad
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why who is he?
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Lol sup ballmer
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cr he blows
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Cleveland *Indians*
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indians, cleveland
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im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
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  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
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  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
Chest-beating slimy native jew
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
snowy thriller market karate
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
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why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
Multi-colored garnet stead
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
Dun galvanic meetinghouse
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
judgmental boyish lodge striped hyena
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
snowy thriller market karate
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
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*destroying
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How do you calculate $5k
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thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
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That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
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Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
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ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
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  11/09/25
Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
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How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
know-it-all forum
  11/09/25
Jews maf
snowy thriller market karate
  11/09/25
it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
Chest-beating slimy native jew
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
know-it-all forum
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
Chest-beating slimy native jew
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
smoky chad stock car
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what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
Multi-colored garnet stead
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
Tantric Lemon Mediation
  11/09/25
Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
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there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
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the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
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i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
Multi-colored garnet stead
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
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here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
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lol
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Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
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that is fucking hilarious.
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was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
judgmental boyish lodge striped hyena
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its real, clearly a major league reference
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anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
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I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
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could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: know-it-all forum

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: confused grizzly whorehouse depressive

180

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: know-it-all forum

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: Federal chrome casino place of business

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal water buffalo church

anal rape?

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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: Unhinged cyan coffee pot

But also some negative consequences

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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: onyx church building genital piercing



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: confused grizzly whorehouse depressive

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Stirring property round eye

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Startled Orchid Ratface Police Squad



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: know-it-all forum

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Amethyst brunch

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: confused grizzly whorehouse depressive



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: smoky chad stock car

cr he blows

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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: jet telephone

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: judgmental boyish lodge striped hyena

indians, cleveland

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Chest-beating slimy native jew

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: know-it-all forum

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Chest-beating slimy native jew

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: snowy thriller market karate

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: Naked Cruise Ship Brethren

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: Multi-colored garnet stead

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: Dun galvanic meetinghouse

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: judgmental boyish lodge striped hyena

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: snowy thriller market karate

import the third world, become the third world

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: smoky chad stock car

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: know-it-all forum

*destroying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414493)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: Federal chrome casino place of business

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: smoky chad stock car

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: Federal chrome casino place of business

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: Brass at-the-ready state pervert

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: know-it-all forum

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: Tantric Lemon Mediation

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: know-it-all forum

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: snowy thriller market karate

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Chest-beating slimy native jew

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: know-it-all forum

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: Chest-beating slimy native jew

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: smoky chad stock car

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Multi-colored garnet stead

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Tantric Lemon Mediation

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: salmon razzmatazz selfie

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: know-it-all forum

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: salmon razzmatazz selfie

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Multi-colored garnet stead

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: know-it-all forum

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: know-it-all forum

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: salmon razzmatazz selfie

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: Pea-brained double fault electric furnace

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: snowy thriller market karate



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: Histrionic Ocher Hall

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: judgmental boyish lodge striped hyena

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: smoky chad stock car

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: Dun galvanic meetinghouse

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: Tantric Lemon Mediation

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: onyx church building genital piercing



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: know-it-all forum

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: snowy thriller market karate



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: Provocative Metal Nursing Home

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: big elite azn queen of the night

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: Brass at-the-ready state pervert

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49416774)