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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
concupiscible messiness
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180
Titillating apoplectic boltzmann love of her life
  11/09/25
they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
concupiscible messiness
  11/09/25
much more than that
Trip Swollen Knife Double Fault
  11/09/25
anal rape?
Unhinged irate site
  11/09/25
But also some negative consequences
Drunken base
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...
violent swashbuckling property
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Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
Titillating apoplectic boltzmann love of her life
  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
Navy parlour goal in life
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Contagious sneaky criminal
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why who is he?
concupiscible messiness
  11/09/25
Lol sup ballmer
laughsome slimy tank
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Titillating apoplectic boltzmann love of her life
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Soul-stirring Sapphire Locus
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cr he blows
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Autistic pale private investor
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Autistic pale private investor
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Cleveland *Indians*
appetizing selfie
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indians, cleveland
histrionic location
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im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
Bonkers spot telephone
  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
concupiscible messiness
  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
Bonkers spot telephone
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
bisexual curious degenerate striped hyena
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
Shaky Fat Ankles Dilemma
  11/09/25
why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
amber blathering elastic band fortuitous meteor
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
deranged center queen of the night
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
histrionic location
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
bisexual curious degenerate striped hyena
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
hateful razzle-dazzle step-uncle's house
  11/09/25
*destroying
concupiscible messiness
  11/09/25
How do you calculate $5k
Trip Swollen Knife Double Fault
  11/09/25
thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
hateful razzle-dazzle step-uncle's house
  11/09/25
That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
Trip Swollen Knife Double Fault
  11/09/25
Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
lake passionate box office
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ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
concupiscible messiness
  11/09/25
Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
fiercely-loyal cruel-hearted regret
  11/09/25
How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
concupiscible messiness
  11/09/25
Jews maf
bisexual curious degenerate striped hyena
  11/09/25
it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
Bonkers spot telephone
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
concupiscible messiness
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
Bonkers spot telephone
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
hateful razzle-dazzle step-uncle's house
  11/09/25
what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
amber blathering elastic band fortuitous meteor
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
fiercely-loyal cruel-hearted regret
  11/09/25
Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
Clear field
  11/09/25
there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
concupiscible messiness
  11/09/25
the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
Clear field
  11/09/25
i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
amber blathering elastic band fortuitous meteor
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
concupiscible messiness
  11/09/25
here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
concupiscible messiness
  11/09/25
lol
Clear field
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Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
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bisexual curious degenerate striped hyena
  11/09/25
that is fucking hilarious.
Flickering sanctuary crotch
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was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
histrionic location
  11/09/25
its real, clearly a major league reference
hateful razzle-dazzle step-uncle's house
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anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
deranged center queen of the night
  11/10/25
I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
fiercely-loyal cruel-hearted regret
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violent swashbuckling property
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lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
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bisexual curious degenerate striped hyena
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could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
frisky business firm
  11/10/25
lol
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Lmao
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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: concupiscible messiness

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414444)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: Titillating apoplectic boltzmann love of her life

180

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: concupiscible messiness

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414453)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: Trip Swollen Knife Double Fault

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Unhinged irate site

anal rape?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414492)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: Drunken base

But also some negative consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414697)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: violent swashbuckling property



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: Titillating apoplectic boltzmann love of her life

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Navy parlour goal in life

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Contagious sneaky criminal



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: concupiscible messiness

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: laughsome slimy tank

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: Titillating apoplectic boltzmann love of her life



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Sapphire Locus



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: hateful razzle-dazzle step-uncle's house

cr he blows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414535)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Autistic pale private investor



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Autistic pale private investor



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: appetizing selfie

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: histrionic location

indians, cleveland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414465)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Bonkers spot telephone

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: concupiscible messiness

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Bonkers spot telephone

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: bisexual curious degenerate striped hyena

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: Shaky Fat Ankles Dilemma

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: amber blathering elastic band fortuitous meteor

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: deranged center queen of the night

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: histrionic location

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: bisexual curious degenerate striped hyena

import the third world, become the third world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414466)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: hateful razzle-dazzle step-uncle's house

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: concupiscible messiness

*destroying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414493)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: Trip Swollen Knife Double Fault

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: hateful razzle-dazzle step-uncle's house

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: Trip Swollen Knife Double Fault

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: lake passionate box office

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: concupiscible messiness

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal cruel-hearted regret

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: concupiscible messiness

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: bisexual curious degenerate striped hyena

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Bonkers spot telephone

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: concupiscible messiness

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: Bonkers spot telephone

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: hateful razzle-dazzle step-uncle's house

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: amber blathering elastic band fortuitous meteor

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal cruel-hearted regret

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: Clear field

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: concupiscible messiness

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: Clear field

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: amber blathering elastic band fortuitous meteor

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: concupiscible messiness

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: concupiscible messiness

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: Clear field

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: Pink mind-boggling blood rage indian lodge

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: bisexual curious degenerate striped hyena



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: Flickering sanctuary crotch

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: histrionic location

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: hateful razzle-dazzle step-uncle's house

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: deranged center queen of the night

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal cruel-hearted regret

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: violent swashbuckling property



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: concupiscible messiness

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: bisexual curious degenerate striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49416110)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: frisky business firm

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: irradiated umber gay wizard karate

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: lake passionate box office

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2.#49416774)