\
  The most prestigious law school admissions discussion board in the world.
BackRefresh Options Favorite

***OFFICIAL 2026 TOUR DE FRANCE THREAD***

South of Spain looks amazing
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/05/26
not a bikemo but this looks beautiful https://i.guim.co.u...
flesh dashing round eye property
  07/05/26
I've been looking at resorts all along the coast this mornin...
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/05/26
would freak me out biking in traffic like that
disrespectful hairraiser immigrant mad-dog skullcap
  07/05/26
Going to be a crazy finish
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/05/26
Incredible team racing
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/05/26
Star studded standings
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/05/26
is paul seixas the real deal? dood's 19
mint place of business
  07/05/26
There’s some extra hype because he’s France&rsqu...
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/06/26
bike fags: are the 2 top guys who won the past 6 titles like...
flesh dashing round eye property
  07/05/26
i think so. pogacar actually let his teammate beat him to...
mint place of business
  07/05/26
wtf is a merckx? there's a top tennis player blockx i...
flesh dashing round eye property
  07/05/26
iirc ckx is like "son" for flemish/belgian names ...
mint place of business
  07/05/26
isnt the goat that beaner who won tdf 5x and held the record...
flesh dashing round eye property
  07/05/26
indurain over merckx is an insane take. but hes top 10 at le...
mint place of business
  07/05/26
"lance" meckx https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edd...
flesh dashing round eye property
  07/05/26
Peter Sagan is the goat
fragrant magenta meetinghouse
  07/05/26
Are you talking about the Spaniard?
valar vettiri morghulis
  07/22/26
Pogacar is badass and goes hard every race and vingegaard pe...
fragrant magenta meetinghouse
  07/05/26
cr if you meant it like "the grands tour only" rat...
mint place of business
  07/05/26
Vuelta is a 3rd rate gt now but yeah forgot about the giro
fragrant magenta meetinghouse
  07/05/26
Pogi is extremely likeable, despite being an extreme winking...
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/06/26
...
Purple beady-eyed piazza
  07/05/26
Breakaway day with Ben Healy
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/06/26
Maybe today - 34 rider breakaway
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/07/26
Brutal day and it’s going to be all the top riders spr...
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/06/26
Tadej doesn’t even look like he’s trying.
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/06/26
Wow, 75 percent of the field is 15 min+ behind Tadej.
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/07/26
Wild breakaway, one more climb and then a long downhill fini...
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/07/26
Yellow is going to change
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/07/26
Tadej and Jonas almost 8’ behind, but Thursday is a mo...
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/07/26
Big question tomorrow is whether Tadej can make up 8 minutes...
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/08/26
First HORS CATÉGOIRE today - brutal mountains.
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/09/26
12 mph up this climb is crazy
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/09/26
Isaac Del Toro is going to be a Tour winner one day soon. ...
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/09/26
Oh, shit. This is crazy. Tadej climbing at 15 mph.
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/09/26
Descent about to start
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/09/26
65 mph
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/09/26
Yellow jersey fucked up and crashed into his teammate.
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/09/26
Yesterday was epic. Today is straight sprinting.
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/10/26
what was so epic
Stimulating hall
  07/11/26
The grandeur.
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/12/26
Tadej started the day tied with his biggest rival but down 8...
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/12/26
I fucking love the weekends - gonna make a big breakfast and...
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/11/26
Just popped a zyn and made a pot of coffee, ready to go
balding ivory resort milk
  07/11/26
7:45 EDT start today
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/12/26
Mountain stage with a super early sprint. Let’s go!
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/14/26
Holy shit, Tadej can descend
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/14/26
Longest stage of this year's tour today, which happens to be...
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/17/26
Cooler weather means there could be a more ferocious breakaw...
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/17/26
34 rider breakaway and Mads’ green jersey is in danger
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/17/26
Battle for third place is intense
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/17/26
How to make bike go fastly
Cowardly tattoo box office
  07/17/26
just pedal
Clear splenetic chapel newt
  07/17/26
Fuck yeah, Isaac Del Toro crushing it
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/18/26
Del Toro is gonna be a legend
Awkward bawdyhouse new version
  07/18/26
Gorgeous day today, finishes with a brutal climb.
valar vettiri morghulis
  07/19/26
Incredible stage today. Tadej is not human. Remco is incre...
valar vettiri morghulis
  07/19/26
Apparently the doping team woke Tadej and Vingegaard up at 2...
valar vettiri morghulis
  07/19/26
The fact that Tadej and Remco can battle for mountain stage ...
valar vettiri morghulis
  07/21/26
Sick finish
valar vettiri morghulis
  07/22/26
Seems like the polka dot and green jerseys are up for grabs ...
N904PD
  07/24/26
A lot left to be decided. Del Toro or Seixas Carapaz K...
valar vettiri morghulis
  07/25/26
Yesterday was crazy and I missed it live. Tadej is not huma...
valar vettiri morghulis
  07/25/26
Del Toro, Mads, Carapaz, Philipsen, and Remco have been the ...
valar vettiri morghulis
  07/25/26
TURN ON YOUR TVS!!! Final climb starting with Del Toro an...
valar vettiri morghulis
  07/25/26
Sepp Kuss (American, lol) in first place
valar vettiri morghulis
  07/25/26
his father Adolph Kuss a Coloradan legend like Adolph Coors
N904PD
  07/25/26


Poast new message in this thread



Reply Favorite

Date: July 5th, 2026 10:55 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

South of Spain looks amazing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49979678)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 5th, 2026 10:59 AM
Author: flesh dashing round eye property

not a bikemo but this looks beautiful

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/cb88656cacc9d1c178c46da3e57d9b6b933b8a9f/496_0_4346_3477/master/4346.jpg?width=620&dpr=2&s=none&crop=none

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49979696)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 5th, 2026 11:02 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

I've been looking at resorts all along the coast this morning, great for families and lots of hikes and Catholicism and history.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49979705)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 5th, 2026 11:42 AM
Author: disrespectful hairraiser immigrant mad-dog skullcap

would freak me out biking in traffic like that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49979767)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 5th, 2026 11:31 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

Going to be a crazy finish

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49979748)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 5th, 2026 11:40 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

Incredible team racing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49979762)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 5th, 2026 11:49 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

Star studded standings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49979779)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 5th, 2026 12:26 PM
Author: mint place of business

is paul seixas the real deal? dood's 19

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49979819)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 6th, 2026 7:12 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

There’s some extra hype because he’s France’s best rider. Certainly has a big future and may win a stage. But Pogacar doesn’t look like he’s trying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49981196)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 5th, 2026 12:44 PM
Author: flesh dashing round eye property

bike fags: are the 2 top guys who won the past 6 titles likeable?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49979835)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 5th, 2026 1:16 PM
Author: mint place of business

i think so.

pogacar actually let his teammate beat him to win the stage today.

and he's insanely good. all time he might end up ranking ahead of anyone but merckx. ive wondered how much more popular hed be around the world if he just had a normal name people could say

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49979878)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 5th, 2026 1:34 PM
Author: flesh dashing round eye property

wtf is a merckx?

there's a top tennis player blockx

i keep thinking he's a trannie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49979921)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 5th, 2026 1:41 PM
Author: mint place of business

iirc ckx is like "son" for flemish/belgian names

but yeah hes the goat of cycling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddy_Merckx

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49979930)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 5th, 2026 8:38 PM
Author: flesh dashing round eye property

isnt the goat that beaner who won tdf 5x and held the record before "lance" won 7x

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49980473)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 5th, 2026 10:16 PM
Author: mint place of business

indurain over merckx is an insane take. but hes top 10 at least

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49980683)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 5th, 2026 10:21 PM
Author: flesh dashing round eye property

"lance" meckx

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddy_Merckx#Doping

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49980693)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 5th, 2026 10:27 PM
Author: fragrant magenta meetinghouse

Peter Sagan is the goat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49980710)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 22nd, 2026 11:20 AM
Author: valar vettiri morghulis

Are you talking about the Spaniard?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#50016632)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 5th, 2026 4:35 PM
Author: fragrant magenta meetinghouse

Pogacar is badass and goes hard every race and vingegaard peaks for the tour only and is a climbing twink autistic dane

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49980149)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 5th, 2026 8:04 PM
Author: mint place of business

cr if you meant it like "the grands tour only" rather than tdf only. vingegaard has won two in a row. vuelta last august/september and the recent giro.

"climbing twink" is apt but he's been a pretty great GC rider at all three

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49980418)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 5th, 2026 8:37 PM
Author: fragrant magenta meetinghouse

Vuelta is a 3rd rate gt now but yeah forgot about the giro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49980468)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 6th, 2026 6:56 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

Pogi is extremely likeable, despite being an extreme winking twink. Vingegaard not so much.

But it looks like Remco Evenpoel is going to be in the mix this year and he is a fan favorite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49981182)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 5th, 2026 10:52 PM
Author: Purple beady-eyed piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49980757)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 6th, 2026 6:53 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

Breakaway day with Ben Healy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49981180)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 7th, 2026 7:49 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

Maybe today - 34 rider breakaway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49983500)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 6th, 2026 10:13 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

Brutal day and it’s going to be all the top riders sprinting for the finish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49981387)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 6th, 2026 11:17 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

Tadej doesn’t even look like he’s trying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49981462)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 7th, 2026 7:49 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

Wow, 75 percent of the field is 15 min+ behind Tadej.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49983499)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 7th, 2026 10:11 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

Wild breakaway, one more climb and then a long downhill finish should make things get crazy. None of the jersey holders are out front.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49983674)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 7th, 2026 11:01 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

Yellow is going to change

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49983731)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 7th, 2026 11:12 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

Tadej and Jonas almost 8’ behind, but Thursday is a mountain stage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49983749)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 8th, 2026 1:16 PM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

Big question tomorrow is whether Tadej can make up 8 minutes in a single mountain stage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49986280)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 9th, 2026 6:35 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

First HORS CATÉGOIRE today - brutal mountains.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49987772)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 9th, 2026 10:13 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

12 mph up this climb is crazy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49988049)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 9th, 2026 10:14 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

Isaac Del Toro is going to be a Tour winner one day soon.

This attack is wrecking the standings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49988052)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 9th, 2026 10:16 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

Oh, shit. This is crazy. Tadej climbing at 15 mph.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49988055)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 9th, 2026 10:24 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

Descent about to start

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49988073)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 9th, 2026 10:31 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

65 mph

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49988092)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 9th, 2026 10:42 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

Yellow jersey fucked up and crashed into his teammate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49988115)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 10th, 2026 7:10 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

Yesterday was epic. Today is straight sprinting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49990275)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 11th, 2026 8:10 AM
Author: Stimulating hall

what was so epic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49992596)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 12th, 2026 6:34 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

The grandeur.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49993977)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 12th, 2026 6:36 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

Tadej started the day tied with his biggest rival but down 8 minutes. He broke in the middle of a famous climb, took first place and put his rival into second by nearly 3 minutes.

He went from hanging around to winning the tour in about 45 minutes. His teammate is also a great story and could podium this year at age 21.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49993981)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 11th, 2026 8:02 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

I fucking love the weekends - gonna make a big breakfast and watch all morning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49992595)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 11th, 2026 8:59 AM
Author: balding ivory resort milk

Just popped a zyn and made a pot of coffee, ready to go

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49992651)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 12th, 2026 6:33 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

7:45 EDT start today

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49993976)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 14th, 2026 7:19 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

Mountain stage with a super early sprint. Let’s go!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49998414)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 14th, 2026 11:01 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

Holy shit, Tadej can descend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#49998716)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 17th, 2026 7:08 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

Longest stage of this year's tour today, which happens to be the shortest longest stage of all time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#50005749)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 17th, 2026 7:18 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

Cooler weather means there could be a more ferocious breakaway than we've gotten this year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#50005760)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 17th, 2026 9:20 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

34 rider breakaway and Mads’ green jersey is in danger

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#50005946)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 17th, 2026 1:21 PM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

Battle for third place is intense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#50006592)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 17th, 2026 1:23 PM
Author: Cowardly tattoo box office

How to make bike go fastly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#50006594)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 17th, 2026 1:33 PM
Author: Clear splenetic chapel newt

just pedal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#50006605)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 18th, 2026 11:33 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

Fuck yeah, Isaac Del Toro crushing it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#50008138)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 18th, 2026 11:37 AM
Author: Awkward bawdyhouse new version

Del Toro is gonna be a legend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#50008143)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 19th, 2026 9:17 AM
Author: valar vettiri morghulis

Gorgeous day today, finishes with a brutal climb.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#50009620)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 19th, 2026 1:56 PM
Author: valar vettiri morghulis

Incredible stage today. Tadej is not human. Remco is incredible and Del Toro is gonna be a star.

Vingegaard is done here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#50010037)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 19th, 2026 2:01 PM
Author: valar vettiri morghulis

Apparently the doping team woke Tadej and Vingegaard up at 2 am for testing, which is ridiculous. And Jonas crashed today.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#50010051)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 21st, 2026 1:43 PM
Author: valar vettiri morghulis

The fact that Tadej and Remco can battle for mountain stage wins and then take 1/2 in a time trial sprint is insane. 150 riders and no one is better than the best climbers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#50014442)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 22nd, 2026 11:19 AM
Author: valar vettiri morghulis

Sick finish

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#50016628)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 24th, 2026 10:12 AM
Author: N904PD

Seems like the polka dot and green jerseys are up for grabs today and tomorrow (both alp dhuez)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#50021431)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 25th, 2026 9:24 AM
Author: valar vettiri morghulis

A lot left to be decided.

Del Toro or Seixas

Carapaz KOM?

Mads will win green.

And then final ten placement is pretty open.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#50023245)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 25th, 2026 9:23 AM
Author: valar vettiri morghulis

Yesterday was crazy and I missed it live. Tadej is not human.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#50023244)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 25th, 2026 9:29 AM
Author: valar vettiri morghulis

Del Toro, Mads, Carapaz, Philipsen, and Remco have been the most fun to watch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#50023247)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 25th, 2026 9:37 AM
Author: valar vettiri morghulis

TURN ON YOUR TVS!!!

Final climb starting with Del Toro and Tadej 3.5 minutes behind.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#50023255)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 25th, 2026 10:08 AM
Author: valar vettiri morghulis

Sepp Kuss (American, lol) in first place

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#50023289)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 25th, 2026 11:06 AM
Author: N904PD

his father Adolph Kuss a Coloradan legend like Adolph Coors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5879789&forum_id=2.#50023335)