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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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vigorous light parlour
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Outnumbered topaz theater stage kitty cat
  12/16/25
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vigorous light parlour
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Pea-brained Blood Rage Love Of Her Life
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Outnumbered topaz theater stage kitty cat
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Pea-brained Blood Rage Love Of Her Life
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Outnumbered topaz theater stage kitty cat
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Pea-brained Blood Rage Love Of Her Life
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
vigorous light parlour
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Outnumbered topaz theater stage kitty cat
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Pea-brained Blood Rage Love Of Her Life
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Outnumbered topaz theater stage kitty cat
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Pea-brained Blood Rage Love Of Her Life
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vigorous light parlour
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Outnumbered topaz theater stage kitty cat
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
salmon diverse puppy
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Outnumbered topaz theater stage kitty cat
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salmon diverse puppy
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
zombie-like feces
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Outnumbered topaz theater stage kitty cat
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Walnut resort kitty
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Outnumbered topaz theater stage kitty cat
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
magical poppy bawdyhouse
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Outnumbered topaz theater stage kitty cat
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vigorous light parlour
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Cordovan wonderful regret site
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
flickering stimulating national
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Outnumbered topaz theater stage kitty cat
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Cordovan wonderful regret site
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vigorous light parlour
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vigorous light parlour
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Pea-brained Blood Rage Love Of Her Life
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
charismatic geriatric trailer park azn
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: vigorous light parlour



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Outnumbered topaz theater stage kitty cat

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: vigorous light parlour

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Pea-brained Blood Rage Love Of Her Life

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Outnumbered topaz theater stage kitty cat

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Pea-brained Blood Rage Love Of Her Life

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Outnumbered topaz theater stage kitty cat

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Pea-brained Blood Rage Love Of Her Life

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: vigorous light parlour

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Outnumbered topaz theater stage kitty cat

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Pea-brained Blood Rage Love Of Her Life

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Outnumbered topaz theater stage kitty cat

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Pea-brained Blood Rage Love Of Her Life

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: vigorous light parlour



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Outnumbered topaz theater stage kitty cat



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: salmon diverse puppy

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Outnumbered topaz theater stage kitty cat

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: salmon diverse puppy



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: zombie-like feces

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Outnumbered topaz theater stage kitty cat

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Walnut resort kitty

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Outnumbered topaz theater stage kitty cat

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: magical poppy bawdyhouse

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Outnumbered topaz theater stage kitty cat



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: vigorous light parlour



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Cordovan wonderful regret site

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: flickering stimulating national

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Outnumbered topaz theater stage kitty cat



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Cordovan wonderful regret site



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: vigorous light parlour



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: vigorous light parlour



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Pea-brained Blood Rage Love Of Her Life

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: charismatic geriatric trailer park azn

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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