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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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spectacular toilet seat
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
aqua cheese-eating cuckoldry
  12/16/25
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spectacular toilet seat
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
soul-stirring gay wizard
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
aqua cheese-eating cuckoldry
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
soul-stirring gay wizard
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
aqua cheese-eating cuckoldry
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
soul-stirring gay wizard
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
spectacular toilet seat
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
aqua cheese-eating cuckoldry
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
soul-stirring gay wizard
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
aqua cheese-eating cuckoldry
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
soul-stirring gay wizard
  12/17/25
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spectacular toilet seat
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aqua cheese-eating cuckoldry
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
drab area
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
aqua cheese-eating cuckoldry
  12/16/25
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drab area
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
exhilarant ruddy field
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
aqua cheese-eating cuckoldry
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
bateful cordovan point idea he suggested
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
aqua cheese-eating cuckoldry
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
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aqua cheese-eating cuckoldry
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spectacular toilet seat
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Rose very tactful cruise ship
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
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aqua cheese-eating cuckoldry
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Rose very tactful cruise ship
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spectacular toilet seat
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spectacular toilet seat
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
soul-stirring gay wizard
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
bistre locus
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: spectacular toilet seat



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: aqua cheese-eating cuckoldry

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: spectacular toilet seat

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: soul-stirring gay wizard

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: aqua cheese-eating cuckoldry

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: soul-stirring gay wizard

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: aqua cheese-eating cuckoldry

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: soul-stirring gay wizard

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: spectacular toilet seat

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: aqua cheese-eating cuckoldry

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: soul-stirring gay wizard

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: aqua cheese-eating cuckoldry

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: soul-stirring gay wizard

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: spectacular toilet seat



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: aqua cheese-eating cuckoldry



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: drab area

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: aqua cheese-eating cuckoldry

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: drab area



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: exhilarant ruddy field

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: aqua cheese-eating cuckoldry

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: bateful cordovan point idea he suggested

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: aqua cheese-eating cuckoldry

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Racy crackhouse

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: aqua cheese-eating cuckoldry



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Rose very tactful cruise ship

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: wonderful cruel-hearted tanning salon

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: soul-stirring gay wizard

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: bistre locus

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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