But in the modern world BPD has zero advantages and all the fake social constructs of life leave these women unable to figure out where they stand with others. The brain isn’t broken, it’s tuned for a world that no longer exists.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49128835)

I have thoughts but am not sure if it’d ultimately work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49128856)

The jealousy and neuroticism and self loathing will start to creep in, poisoning the relationship. “Splitting” is the term they’ve settled on. Huge blowup fights commence, cycling you back to an intense makeup, where they idolize you again and you get even more great sex. The cycles repeat endlessly and actually speed up until you’re spinning through them weekly, daily, hourly.

I think that to maintain control of the cycle you would need to understand it and to be able to manipulate it in isolation from other variables. You’d have to accept that you have to manage moving through these cycles, with the goal of minimizing duration and incidence of the splitting phase. Sisyphus but with better-than-the-best-porn levels of enthusiastic blowjobs and doggystyle before you accept that fate *requires* the boulder to roll back over you.

Imagine some digital nomad global traveler van life social media type arrangement. Can feed their serotonin levels, move through novel situations to fuel the risky sex drive, given them an outlet for attention (carefully curated attention that doesn’t invite direct human interaction that causes spirals). But you control the environment totally.

Or maybe you’d need to create a very small fishbowl inside a more dynamic environment. Large city but with a very carefully narrow social circle and employment situation. BPD girlfriend can’t work a normal job or have a normal set of friends. You’d need, like, sparsely patronized art gallery and very, very, insular group of even crazier artist friends.

Just lemme tell you that it did not work well in a typical large college environment. Especially for a dumb college guy who had no idea what was going on with this girl.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49128925)

all women idealize and devalue. bpd splitting is just ordinary female behavior at disordered levels. this is why women will stick with scumbags and defend them endlessly and why they'll go live, laugh, love and abandon their man when they read some chicklit that tells them too.

during idealization sane women fuck like BPDs. with BPDs is just happens with remarkable speed and intensity. ordinary women idealize their partner when they've become certain that he's the one. this "certainty" is fickle and based on their emotions, so it's really not "certain" in a way a man thinks. it's driven primarily by "this man will provide resources and maximize my odds of spreading my genes by rearing quality offspring into adulthood."

because women are independent and able to provide their own resources their biological drive to latch onto a man they *need* to survive is diminished. among other social factors. because their behavior is driven by emotion instead of logic they'll never be able to just mentally accept this and adjust. they just keep dating and getting "the ick" until they're 40 year old barren cat moms.

individual men can get BPD sex by hooking women and making them dependent on him. the only way to do this society wide is by making women dependent on men in the way they used to be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49129020)

Though I think your treatise needs to elaborate on hopelessly prudish women.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49129061)

we're talking about women generally so it goes without saying there are going to be countless individual exceptions. women can be hopelessly prudish for so many reasons. one common one is ssris, which i think are on the upswing also because women have trouble copeing with a world that is not aligned to their biological programming and lacking the tools to combat it. these women frequently never enter idealization and so they rarely become BPD grade lovers. some do a good job faking it, usually because these women are rule followers and doing what they're "supposed to do."

but nothing compares to organic, farm-to-table "i will fuck you like my life depends on it because my emotions are telling me it does." it's like a burger and a beyond burger.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49129109)

Your observations about the long-term disconnect that we’ve created in society rings particularly true. The NYT Modern Love female navel gazing of the last few weeks all basically takes the form of, “Men don’t need me anymore and I don’t need them but I’m so sad and alone despite it being exactly what I said I wanted and that the Gloria Steinem acolytes sold to me”

I have no familiarity with the SSRI variant of frigidwomanmo. All of my experience has been with the highly religious upbringing and scared of society’s disapproval variety.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49129138)

I think that not enough radically candid XO scholarship has been devoted to how to bring out just enough of the BPD succubus in our otherwise emotionally stable women who we chose because of their suitability as wives and mothers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49129179)

After 2 years of limitless enthusiastic suck and fuck I started to feel bad about cheating all the time, sent away all my other hos, and committed to her. We had one really intense fuck sesh after I decided to go steady, but after that sex slowly declined over the next two years and she ultimately broke up with me on a whim.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49129190)

religious id put in the "trauma" camp. not trauma per se but a past experience causing a persistent mental block. they want to fuck like BPD whores but it's bad. society disapproval is the same thing but now God is society. both of these operate because women adapt and dogmatically adhere to the consensus.

if you get them into a social consensus where fucking like a BPD is virtuous they will do so. this is why leftists all fuck like BDSM pornstars. they exist within a social consensus where depraved sex is seen as empowering and prudeishness is rejected, so thats what they do.

trauma-prudes may never get over it. its the same with PTSD people. pure social consensus ones can, but they have to truly idealize and depend on their man. this is hard to accomplish and is essentially the plot to the taming of the shrew. without a large dowery or some other incentive most men won't. especially when they're not getting their end of the bargain for being a high value man: a doting woman who genuinely wants to fuck and suck with ruthless abandon.

most guys capable of making a sane woman idealize him will find one that's already submissive and receptive to being daddied. these men are rare today so they're not taking on a project.

what wound up happening to you post BPD chick? from our previous convos I think you mentioned a frigid wife? my guess is that you were attracted to the stability of a prudish, rule following woman and hoped things would change and that you already had enough wild sex for a lifetime and are now wistfully reminiscing? if so the same thing happened to me except it was an ssri "ill pretend to be a pornstar" type and it lasted about a year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49129189)

Heroic girl and I went off to law school together, actually lived together 1st year, and she introduced me to my now wife. Got married 3L year. First kid as a 5th year associate. More kids and some necessary career adjustments until I hit a nice in-house gig. Wife is and has always been 180, including wrt our sex life, with a bit of an asterisk over the years where we had multiple young kids and I was working way too much. She’s definitely stable emotionally, but still fun and not prudish. I think that getting out to an exurb with an affluent group of yoga pants Lexus mommies for her peers has helped maintain the right balance. There’s just enough drama and competition among them to be healthy, but not so much as to be annoying to me. The husbands talk about sports too much but are otherwise fine to hang out with.

Heroic girl got married to a guy who founded an aviation business and both she and the husband are some of my best friends to this day. He’s eyeing an exit and we’re going to go in on a set of vacation homes together with a third couple we’re close with.

BPD succubus girlfriend continues to cycle through a new serious relationship every 1-2 years. A flurry of look at my amazing life and who I’ve found travel pics and self indulgent Facebook poasts. Then the pace slackens. Then her socials all go private/vanish. Then they reappear a few weeks later scrubbed clean and ready to start fresh. She still looks great. But it’s starting to be that she looks great *for her age*. Each of her new guys subtracts a cm from the prior’s hairline and height and adds it to his waist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49129317)

very happy to hear that my small suspcion wasn't accurate.

HEROIC women like your heroine are 180. women that are feminine and have the capacity for logic, principled behavior, honor, and other masculine virtues are worth their weight it gold. they are oracles and a lot of my scholarship has come from various heroic women who have the capacity to discuss the nature of women without going into a feminine emotional tailspin.

usually these women fare poorly because they're so awesome the population of men they can respect as superiors is small. if they happen to be plain they can be truly boned. a woman can't logic herself into falling for a man her emotions aren't telling her to respect anymore than a man can contort himself into falling for a woman he isn't physically attracted to even if she is perfect in all other respects.

the fact she also found some alpha aviation chad is 180, making this 180^180. and that you're all good friends and about to get a vacation house makes in a unicorn unmitigated, uninflated 180^180^180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49129350)

Heroic best friend is, perhaps, a bit plain of face. But (1) she’s a fitness fanatic and has an insane body for a mom of 4 and (2) she has aged into her looks tremendously well. Her husband is a handful of years older than us and is that rare absolute chad with enough self awareness to choose, with intention, true commitment to family life and the happiness that it brings vs going full RSF. He came from significant family money but was LARPing as a semi-broke post-Capitol Hill legislative aide at a conservation focused lobbying firm (that leaned right and the whole office wore Ducks Unlimited, it was weird). Heroic friend took about three years after lolschool to realize she’d been fed a load of flame about the happiness girlbossing would bring her and she basically sat this guy down and negotiated that they would agree to get married immediately and have lots and lots of sex and babies and that she’d follow him wherever he wanted to go. He wanted to leave the city. And so they ended up moving back to his home state and he started the business with his uncle and favorite cousin.

God that’s almost 20 years ago now.

EDIT TO ADD: Upon reflection, it’s interesting how both heroic girlfriend and heroic airplane husband made conscious, deliberate choices to be heroic. Society has lost the institutions and guardrails that can steer people with less awareness & will (or less luck) down those paths.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49129394)

How to?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49129831)

If you don't get married and have kids there's literally no reason to ever stay with a woman beyond 1.5 months or so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49129166)

this makes perfect sense for a woman evolutionarily. if they can find a man that will provide resources and security more relilably, they will. and they don't operate on logic and so they can't think "hey he just got hurt he'll be back again soon." it's "DANGER DANGER MAN AT REST EW GROSS LEAVE ME ALONE ICK"

pumping and dumping hoes the moment they express reluctance is one strategy. easier if you don't care about having a forever wife to bare children.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49129210)

Women in the 21st century want you to be rich, not have a lot of work obligations, and have a ton of time to devote to THEM and help her get MYMASTERS.

To wit I think the Ballerina Farm lady is probably living the ideal female life right now. Married JetBlue heir, marriage and kids, and then he dumped 10s of millions into her personal interest, setting her up for fame. This is the standard, this is the expectation for marriage and kids. You have to be idle rich and more committed to HER dreams than to your own. Otherwise, you get what Gisele did to Tommy. Sayonara!

Last year I randomly met a woman and her family and they all told me she was engaged to some prestigious cancer research doctor at The Mayo Clinic. I said wow that's amazing, you're so lucky. She rolled her eyes and said, "Yeah. He's a hero. But what about me? What do I do. Heh. Nothing cool like that."

At the end of the day, men and women in 21st century have diametrically opposed goals. Men want > work hard, stable income, loyal wife, raise kids with good values, two parents, home ownership, stability, predictability, nothing ever changes, wife pls don't get fat so we can still have sex. Straight up the middle. 99% of marriageable guys want this and are exactly like this.

Now do marriageable women. *MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49129215)

they don't really want MYMASTERS though. thats what they want when they social consensus tells them that's what they want. once the social consensus is supplanted by daddy they'll want what daddy wants them to want.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49129229)

also women are biologically programmed to form babby early. when that doesnt happen because society tells them to and their brain is telling them to they go haywire. their brain is telling them their partner is bad because no babby. this is on top of all the hormones that are generated when a woman does form babby, that's purpose is to make the woman bond to babby and consequently the husband that provides resources and security.

without this potent combo a woman is going to feel unfulfilled. and because they don't have the tools to think "hey i just feel this way because i didnt form babby and I'm the one taking BC every morning!" they instead come to conclusions like "maybe if i get a masters in social work that'll fill the babby sized hole in me."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49129252)

your presence does provide an opportunity for some scholarship: bpd women almost always wind up wind the most absolute pathetic simpcucks. these men definitely can't get a hot sane woman to fall for them, and so they wind up enduring their BPD for life. every single BPD i know in a very longterm relationship is with a guy that will stomach her insanity and keep coming back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49129295)

But then enter GC. Instagram did more to ruin women than anything else. I *could* be a super model on a yacht instead of a dowdy housefrau. I could be on the beach with Leo instead of my shlubby husband. Men accept that they have a peak, they obtain top tier suck and fuck, and then they have kids and they're not going to get that anymore and your life is now about sacrificing for the children. And if you're lucky your wife won't get turbo ugly. But it requires duty and honor to take that hit. It requires believing that investing in your kids is more important than your own life. It's an act of sacrifice and grace.

Now do women. Birdbrain totally rewired by GC. Sees 60 year old actress still killing it with much younger, hotter husband. That's how you get Krystal Ball leaving rich Indian shlub for Kyle Kulinski. Who cares about keeping this nuclear family together, I'm not getting any younger!

Maybe women are men and they're just doing to men what men did to women which was brush them aside and cheat on them. OK fine, now it's all equal. Except the man is paying. Still footing the bill. And without the man being strong it all goes to hell fast. And I think the man is left devastated. I still think Tom Brady is devastated his wife left him and it hurts him every day. He's obviously banging sluts but he still writes lengthy birthday tributes to Gisele in Portuguese and shit. I think he's heartbroken. No amount of Zoomer pussy can mend his broken family unit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49129265)

women are children and just like children when one is rotten it's usually the parents (dad) that's to blame. ive said this before and usually people shriek "not all men! not me!" which is a very feminine response. and hypocritical, as these guys are engaging in criticizing women as a group but cannot tolerate men being criticized without feeling personally attacked.

society has been far worse before. the solution is to stoically accept the state of the world and work towards changing it. that won't happen if men dodge accountability by blaming women, gc, jews, browns, etc.

everything in the world happens because of men; including decline because of their own inaction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49129308)

The answer is men need to stand up and be disciplinarians. I was talking to a Zoomer art ho the other day who was talking about getting a sleeve tat. I told her tattoos were stupid and make you look like a dumb whore and no men of value would accept their woman doing that to her body.

People around looked at me as if I had just said Heil Hitler. People always go, "You're really conservative, aren't you?" Yes, yes I am. And I intend on laying down the law. Funny thing is being anti-weed, anti-tattoo, anti-prostitution, anti-gay acceptance isn't that crazy. It's just normal shit from two generations ago. It's Boomers who experimented with liberalization of culture, but manage to survive because they inherited the best economic prospects in world history. Their kids did not. So now obviously many in Gen Z are looking to the old ways. Social standards must be Enforced.

Men encouraging other men to fuck lots of chicks with no consequences is pretty much the root of men fucking up. Men should have said no, find the right woman and treat her with dignity. But guys are so horny not many under 35 can do this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49129378)

Lack of consistent community means the calibration of the social brain never finds a “home base.”

Childhood invalidation or trauma may be less of a cause and more of a catalyst, it kicks the latent evolutionary system into hyperdrive before the individual has the social grounding to stabilize it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49128847)

I think it was probably an evolutionary adaptation by women to secure male commitment. Whites are the only race who ever experienced female selection due to the ice age and monogamy. It's why we're so much better looking than every other race

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49128928)

You’re in a tribe of 30 people and some chick starts sobbing, screaming, threatening to off herself. Everyone stops what they’re doing. She hijacks the entire group’s attention. it guarantees her needs get addressed faster than the quiet, chill ones. Squeaky wheel gets the meat.

If someone’s prone to chaos, kicking them out isn’t a clean solution. She might take some dudes with her, or torch your hut, or get a dude to kill you. Walking on eggshells is less costly than full social implosion.

Women with BPD are always analyzing tone, body language, "weird energy". The crazy chick was the first to notice someone was about to betray the group or when something was “off.” Yeah she cries wolf, but sometimes she's right. She builds a little loyalty cult, pushes out anyone who questions her, and now she’s surrounded by men in dancing monkey frame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49129483)

Neanderthals lived in harsh, unstable environments with high death rates and in small, tightly bonded groups. Emotional attunement and threat detection would have been critical. They were smaller populations under constant stress from cold, predators, and Homo sapiens. A hair-trigger on betrayal or rejection might’ve been a competitive advantage.

If they were neurologically wired for high emotional reactivity and social sensitivity, that might've made them hyper-aware, suspicious, intense, etc.

When Homo sapiens interbred, some of that wiring stuck but in modern fag society those traits are out of sync with how we live now.

So the BPD brain might be less of a "disorder" and more like the emotional OS of a hominid variant that never adapted to large, anonymous, disconnected civilizations

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49129502)

BPD succubus college gf threatened to off herself every time we had a major fight. She did it again when we had the final breakup fight and I just called her dad and said, “John, it’s been nice knowing you, but good luck with this.” It was always very obviously feigned, so I’m sorry to hear that sometimes their struggles cause them to follow through.

I’m also very grateful that this was a decade before Colombia mattress girl and ruining ex boyfriends with false allegations supported by 3rd wave shrew college administrators.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49129555)

Over the years I’ve never spared a thought for what John, her dad, has gone through. Seeing it all clearly, probably from a young age, but with no real ability to intervene with something that’s just that hardcoded in your daughter. Now in his 70s and still watching her stuck in this spin cycle of a life. Unsuccessful personally and professionally.

Again, I’m very sorry for your friends. But maybe that story was always going to have a sad ending.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49129581)

The type of person who poasts on Reddit is the type of person on society’s margins whose mother steals all of their babysitting savings to buy their entitled younger sister a designer dress for prom.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5754316&forum_id=2Elisa#49129596)