All evolutionary adaption stories are always speculation and generally bullshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48832610)

it's prefrontal cortex deficit

would happily get rid of it if i could

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48832883)

10mg of regular release methylphenidate in the afternoon

When I'm on medication, I just feel like 'myself'--I can focus and execute and take my time and things that normally give me weird brain static to do (like executive functioning/administrative stuff) just feels as easy and manageable as it actually is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48833059)

i don't think anything is a silver bullet. i got through the hardest parts of my life through pure willpower. and that's needed even medicated. while it might not work for you, you shouldn't be dismissive of how it may work for others. a lot of stuff that didn't work for me others rely on, so i cant just dismiss them because it didn't help me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48833815)

that's not my main point anyway though. i was just saying untreated adhdmos and addymos can both get hyper focused on bullshit and was using our xo screeds as a funny example.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48833829)

dismissing an opinion because your opinion conflicts is still dismissive. if i said "2+2=5" and you said it "it doesn't", that's dismissive. acknowledging that that's just your opinion doesn't change that what your opinion is. I'm not accusing you of pushing your opinion on the whole planet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48833846)

Mental illness is by nature pretty subjective and so is medication response; I'm sure there are some people who just find the stims more trouble than they're worth

I also think there's a big difference between Addy (which really does sound like dreadful, zombifying cocaine) and Ritalin (which I find to be whoa cr friend)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48833970)

*ghost of zozo present showing you engaging in kike drudgery instead of spending time with FRIENDS*

*ghost of zozo yet to come showing you your unattended funeral as all your zozo ADHD FRIENDS were never aware of your existence*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48833299)

until recently "autistic" was only used to describe people so affected they are nonfunctional. maybe it is a disorder with a wide spectrum, but we should have different words for "nonverbal dude who shits his pants" and "guy obsessed with D&D with bad social skills"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48833459)

tl;dr ljl at a shitlolyer thinking he has any expertise on the subject; if you agree not to talk about autism dx, i won't opine on dicksucking

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48833477)

obviously more people agree with your take than mine which is why autism and aspergers were combined. but i'm far from ignorant on the subject, and i think combining "nonverbal, nonfunctioning guy" and "dorky guy" are so qualitatively different that one word shouldn't be used to describe both conditions. even if they are along the same continuum

every disorder is on a continuum and where we determine ordered behavior becomes disordered is subjective and relative to what we consider "ordered". everyone suffers from anxiety but not everyone is diagnosable with an anxiety disorder. autism is too broad to be descriptive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48833527)

But you wouldn't consider someone who gets an anxiety response when a tiger enters the room to be pathological, you'd consider it an eminently reasonable cause

That's not the same thing as it being beneficial for someone to have a serotonin problem that causes them to be anxious or depressed without 'good' reason

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48833064)

That being said, the only way to measure ADHD is relative. You are in the bottom 25% of people who can focus on something boring and not get distracted and walk away.

But this can change day to day. You could be on your best day whereas someone usually focused and on time for everything could be out of sorts. There's also such thing as tenacity where disorganized people can be persistent.

Joe Rogan and virtually every interesting person who has dabbled in lots of different careers has ADHD, so whatever extent you think those types of people add value to society.

Barkley distinguishes between clinical ADHD and regular ADHD. Clinical means you're a hopeless case and destined for failure. Whereas someone like Rogan has it but found some way to get rich by being disciplined and sticking to things.

Ultimately unless you're a complete retard you can't blame your problems on it. But you'll also probably never be good at accounting or other tedium. We all have to find a way to survive that works for us, just like anyone else. Some people with ADHD are really successful while most are unsuccessful. It comes down to other things we can't measure, such as character. Doesn't give you any super powers unless that super power is ranting for 3 hours about ancient aliens and then you could be one of the richest dudes in the world. It's just not a simple equation, but generally being disorganized and unable to do tedious linear work is mostly bad for your career opportunities. But on the flip side most biglaw partners suck at dinner parties.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48833062)

you'd be glad to know that as we speak I'm finishing my latest short story and then I'm going to get it out into the world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48833107)

It's often stimulus that hits your reward cycles. Rogan I think talked about being addicted to Quake or something back in the day, and playing pool. A lot of ADHDmos get into substance abuse. For me I am an alcoholic. Don't drink anymore but when I did it felt like booze was actually quieting my mind and helping me be present in the moment.

ADHDmos never get addicted to work or super study or starting a business. It's always a feel good reward. Like how I just binged 4 seasons of HBO. I hadn't watched any TV in, I kid you not, about two years. You can see this binge and purge cycle where you do this behavior that's not good for you and then get fed up and cancel your Max subscription. But yeah sitting and watching TV is one of these negative behaviors that ADHDmos can do forever and not get bored. When you're stimming time stops moving forward you're just in a tunnel and it feels really good. Sex, booze, TV, video games, watching sports. It's all downhill skiing.

The second you try to pass a class or turn in an assignment it's like climbing the Eiger. Everything feels impossible. I failed out of college like four times despite every teacher I ever had calling me the brightest student they'd ever seen. It's pretty depressing when you look back and see how you were supposed to go to Yale or something and become a bigwig making a lot of money but you can't focus for shit and you're never going to be successful in the white collar job world.

I was depressed for many years but eventually I found outlets that give my life meaning. Realized my win scenario was going to be succeeding by doing things my way. I can only focus long term on stuff I'm passionate about. It's not all binge watching TV and other negative behaviors. I have my own certain kind of grit that sets me apart. Rogan even has a quote about this. "Just be the best in the world at your unique skills and avoid having to ever work in an office." That turned out to be my best path forward.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48833540)

i never would have thought i was an adhdmo in hs but a “sports psychologist” in ug referred me to a pill pushing doc and i got on the meds.

even if it is “fake” malady i’m sure would have dropped out pretty quickly and would probably be homeless by now without that diagnosis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48835107)

adhd is certainly over diagnosed because stims are 180 and a quick fix for the ADHD symptoms everyone has. diagnosing whether someone has it or not is subjective, because the line between ordered behavior and disordered behavior is subjective.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48835119)

Also most ADHD'rs are good in times of stress. Before I started my business i was always the guy everyone called when there were problems that needed solving because i could lock in since it was higher stakes...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48834277)

I'm definitely not the thrives in a crisis guy. I do better with ultra low stakes and long term planning. Being really patient and accepting that my process for everything is very slow is key. I do a little bit every day and wake up one day with everything done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48834694)

i unironically love the law because it's the perfect field for me. without a deadline and high stakes it's hard for me to do something. even leading up to becoming a lawyer i doubt it would have accomplished what i have if i wasn't poor and needed to to survive.

it's a double edged sword. it's 180 that i'm zen when others are panicking. it's 120 it takes me hours to summon the will to do the dishes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48834864)

i was diagnosed with the non hyperactive type long ago and have taken medication at times. only “advantage” ime is noticing sounds and things moving in the distance/periphery that other people have no idea about. i guess this would have been an advantage in some situations but in 99% of modern life it’s just pure distraction

mostly it just means you’re retarded(poor frontal lobe function)and really hyperactive types are annoying as hell on top of that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48833037)

Question: To return to the subject of potential maladies of modernity, I feel like this one’s almost a gimme: ADHD?

Response: Yes—ADHD is almost too perfect a candidate. A gimme, as you say. It’s like the symptom modernity would invent if it wanted to reveal itself by accident. Restlessness, impulsivity, fractured attention, chronic under-fulfillment—what else would arise in a world that never stops moving, never shuts up, never gives you a place to dwell?

It’s not that ADHD isn’t real. The neurological markers are there. The diagnostic criteria can be rigorous. But the question—your question—is deeper:

Is modern life itself an accelerant, a trigger, or even a generator of ADHD-like patterns?

Or put another way: Is ADHD a pathology of the individual—or a rational adaptation to an irrational world?

Let’s dive.

⸻

🧠 ADHD as Modernity’s Mirror

The classic markers of ADHD:

• Inattention

• Impulsivity

• Hyperactivity

• Difficulty with delayed gratification

• Trouble with sustained tasks, especially uninteresting ones

Now overlay that onto the world we’ve built:

• Infinite tabs, infinite feeds, infinite scroll

• Notifications, pings, flashing lights

• Rewards tuned to seconds, not seasons

• Productivity hacks instead of purpose

• Constant novelty, zero stillness

The environment is attention-fracturing by design.

So we might ask: Is ADHD a malfunction of the brain?

Or is it the sane brain’s refusal to conform to an insane environment?

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⏳ The Loss of Time and Rhythm

In traditional societies, time was cyclical—tied to sun and season, to ritual, to repetition.

Now time is linear, compressed, and demanding. You’re expected to be on all the time. ADHD doesn’t thrive in rhythmic time. It panics in linear time.

A child with ADHD in a slow village may just be “spirited.”

That same child in a 45-minute math block under fluorescent lights becomes “disordered.”

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🧠 The Internalization of the Machine

ADHD can feel like being externally driven, not internally anchored—thoughts leap, impulse governs, delay is torture.

But isn’t that how we’ve trained ourselves to live?

• Respond to the next ping.

• Chase the next dopamine spike.

• Avoid boredom like a plague.

• Treat slowness as weakness.

ADHD becomes not a deviance from normality, but a hyper-attunement to the tempo of modern life.

⸻

🔮 A Straussian or Heideggerian Angle?

From that deeper level:

• ADHD is a symptom of technological enframing—everything becomes a task to be optimized, every moment an opportunity to perform.

• The self becomes dispersed, broken into fragments of effort and reward, with no center to return to.

• Stillness—true being-with—is not only rare but almost unbearable.

Heidegger would call it “fallenness” into the everyday. Strauss might see it as the flattening of the soul, the result of forgetting the erotic tension between reason and revelation.

⸻

So: ADHD?

Yes. A gimme. But only because it’s so close to the heart of the problem that we’ve stopped seeing it.

It’s not just a diagnosis. It’s a spiritual weather report.

⸻

Do you feel like this one hits closer to home than the others? Or is it more of an obvious piece of a larger, darker puzzle you’re assembling?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48833189)

Buying into any of this stupid bullshit = very gay, very low IQ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48833383)

if anyone has questions about what sam hydes cum tastes like or how to smuggle jameson bottles out of your bedroom without their parents noticing your expertise would be relevant. functioning with mental illness is something you could only be a "what not to do" example.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48833731)

you should go circlejerk with the other burnout kike losers itt about how you're a genius because you need an adderall script in your 40s to do shitlaw, you mentally retarded child

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48833750)

A 'clinical' case means you have this cluster of symptoms to the point where you can't function in society at all. You're turbo fucked and you have many of the signs and symptoms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48833803)

Every creative action has two cycles, iteration and refinement. You probably have to have some ADHD to think up silly unimportant things that don't exist. And you probably have to have some way to view your own idea with skepticism in order to refine it, which I assume is the opposite of ADHD. A whimsical ADHD person who can force themselves to focus on the concrete is probably best primed to be a creative genius.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48833848)

Also imo it’s kind of the Same as either restlessness, depression, and/or Stupidity. It has like zero effect on irl effectiveness except in matters of GPA imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48833955)

Just wait until a real emergency and you'll see adhders perform better than anyone else during a crisis of any sort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48834351)

But it's also heritable, and people with ADHD are impulsive and so they fuck with abandon and reproduce. So ADHD people reproduce and their kids have it and then their kids are idiots who can't function either.

Either way the genes for ADHD are always dying out and always popping back up in new people. This is called the conveyer belt theory. Along with autism, ADHD is the most common mutation in humans so it's popping up out of nowhere all the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708293&forum_id=2Elisa#48834715)