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How much money did you make this year? ($$$)

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Drab heaven international law enforcement agency
  12/18/25
710K
tantric histrionic university pistol
  12/18/25
lawyer?
Drab heaven international law enforcement agency
  12/18/25
yea
tantric histrionic university pistol
  12/18/25
Biglaw?
Drab heaven international law enforcement agency
  12/18/25
Me: 842k Wife: 267K Including last year's bonus
fear-inspiring dog poop
  12/18/25
Lawyers?
diverse fishy roast beef nibblets
  12/18/25
My wife is in-house and I lie on the internet
fear-inspiring dog poop
  12/18/25
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Salmon rigor
  12/18/25
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Light school cafeteria
  12/19/25
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Amber ungodly main people
  12/19/25
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Drunken rigpig black woman
  12/19/25
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mentally impaired space cuckoldry
  12/20/25
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wine principal's office
  12/21/25
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Hairraiser hunting ground sound barrier
  12/21/25
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Turquoise multi-colored office antidepressant drug
  12/21/25
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Wonderful Coldplay Fan Giraffe
  12/22/25
$350kish, maybe more depending on how collections come in ov...
seedy business firm
  12/18/25
Trash or legal fees?
Drab heaven international law enforcement agency
  12/18/25
Picking up trash would be much more dignified
seedy business firm
  12/18/25
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Light school cafeteria
  12/19/25
$130k in shitlaw
Laughsome windowlicker death wish
  12/18/25
as a solo? associate? paralegal?
Charcoal son of senegal
  12/18/25
AssociaTTTe
Laughsome windowlicker death wish
  12/18/25
why dont you go solo?
Drab heaven international law enforcement agency
  12/18/25
I thought shitlawyers made $60K in MFH
hilarious chrome den partner
  12/19/25
Nigger voicemail$
Laughsome windowlicker death wish
  12/19/25
A little over $300k as an in house fag. I'm pathetic and poo...
jade startled piazza
  12/18/25
When I was a young Inhousemo making $250k, I thought I was t...
jade startled piazza
  12/18/25
To be fair, I had a 180 billion lifestyle in my late 20s and...
jade startled piazza
  12/18/25
you should've lateraled to $750k 10-2 100% wfh in house ages...
cordovan police squad whorehouse
  12/18/25
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tantric histrionic university pistol
  12/18/25
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grizzly slap-happy liquid oxygen
  12/19/25
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Hideous marvelous cumskin forum
  12/21/25
In house is the exit option. There are no exist options from...
Light school cafeteria
  12/19/25
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transparent personal credit line
  12/19/25
Why is $300k paycheck to paycheck?
Excitant twinkling uncleanness library
  12/19/25
Over $400k if you add wife. After tax income: ~200k H...
jade startled piazza
  12/19/25
You are doing better than paycheck to paycheck.
Excitant twinkling uncleanness library
  12/19/25
you are retarded or lying because 400k with a family is not...
Contagious church building gay wizard
  12/20/25
I had half my income withheld for taxes. I asked what the fu...
Excitant twinkling uncleanness library
  12/21/25
286k so far. Prob will make another 15k. Wife 86k
180 cyan school mood
  12/18/25
Does wife's post-tax salary cover the costs of childcare and...
Light school cafeteria
  12/19/25
PATRIARCHY!!! Of course it doesn’t.
stimulating generalized bond
  12/19/25
Oh. So why does she work?
Light school cafeteria
  12/19/25
180k. worst year in total comp since pre covid
racy fuchsia address fanboi
  12/18/25
don't you brag about being rich?
grizzly slap-happy liquid oxygen
  12/19/25
sorry to hear it but props for your candor in a thread full ...
fragrant nursing home
  12/19/25
me: ~$400k wife: ~$325k but i was also laid off
Disrespectful Tan French Chef Hospital
  12/18/25
if u want chandler to slap u with his dick just say so
cordovan police squad whorehouse
  12/18/25
Very gauche to discuss. Any white people left on here?
Glassy internet-worthy trailer park incel
  12/18/25
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Ultramarine water buffalo chapel
  12/18/25
$790K. Wife made about $15K.
Excitant twinkling uncleanness library
  12/18/25
Doing what, and why?
Drab heaven international law enforcement agency
  12/18/25
I am atty.
Excitant twinkling uncleanness library
  12/18/25
I know that, I meant your wife
Drab heaven international law enforcement agency
  12/18/25
He's an attorney. What's so complicated?
jade startled piazza
  12/18/25
I understand that he's an attorney
spectacular house
  12/19/25
I understand that he's an attorney
spectacular house
  12/19/25
I understand that he's an attorney
ocher genital piercing
  12/21/25
He's an attorney. What's so complicated?
twinkling frozen garrison dopamine
  12/23/25
I understand that he's an attorney
spectacular house
  12/23/25
Over 50k. Plus I got a $150 honorarium for a talk earlier th...
cracking theater stage
  12/18/25
I'd love to get an honorarium one day. Very prestigious.
Light school cafeteria
  12/19/25
yup, I'd love to get an honorarium one day. Very prestigious...
ocher genital piercing
  12/21/25
You joke, but I'm unironically proud of my meagre token of p...
cracking theater stage
  12/21/25
I felt the same when I won a $100 poetry prize. In college. ...
Excitant twinkling uncleanness library
  12/22/25
Lashing out because the board writ large is mocking you for ...
cracking theater stage
  12/22/25
? Largely? It’s five unmarried childless losers pissed...
Excitant twinkling uncleanness library
  12/22/25
I was making fun of honaria. Whatever happened to him?
ocher genital piercing
  12/22/25
lol I make more money than lex tp
wine principal's office
  12/21/25
Monkey driving a golf cart makes more money than that guy
Excitant twinkling uncleanness library
  12/21/25
I feel safe in this subthread
Poppy narrow-minded halford
  12/22/25
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Poppy narrow-minded halford
  12/22/25
lex how’s your dating life? jw
Poppy narrow-minded halford
  12/22/25
I only respond to such queries in old fashioned SUMMON: thre...
cracking theater stage
  12/22/25
why are u dorks including ur wives' earnings
cordovan police squad whorehouse
  12/18/25
Same reason why they included what their wives harvested in ...
Ultramarine water buffalo chapel
  12/18/25
i don't even know whether my wife has a job
cordovan police squad whorehouse
  12/18/25
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Drunken rigpig black woman
  12/19/25
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Light school cafeteria
  12/19/25
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Poppy narrow-minded halford
  12/22/25
not enough.
grizzly slap-happy liquid oxygen
  12/18/25
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Supple lime locale
  12/20/25
little under $6M
Rose theatre
  12/18/25
MFCR. State occupation, thank.
jade startled piazza
  12/18/25
271K TOPS
fear-inspiring dog poop
  12/18/25
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Swashbuckling apoplectic boistinker
  12/18/25
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racy fuchsia address fanboi
  12/18/25
sorry ur mad
Rose theatre
  12/19/25
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scarlet menage psychic
  12/20/25
Six figures, champ.
Indigo rambunctious quadroon
  12/18/25
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Salmon rigor
  12/18/25
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grizzly slap-happy liquid oxygen
  12/18/25
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Haunting Station Headpube
  12/20/25
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Turquoise multi-colored office antidepressant drug
  12/21/25
-$184K
insecure spruce senate
  12/18/25
I fail to see how this is relevant.
Exciting Bistre Stain Idea He Suggested
  12/18/25
Pre tax or post tax? Including expected tax credits, debits,...
Cream dilemma
  12/18/25
holy fuck how jewish are you
Amber ungodly main people
  12/19/25
low-200s
Mewling shivering indian lodge skinny woman
  12/18/25
0
flirting set lettuce
  12/18/25
like 2 million
thriller bipolar dragon
  12/18/25
$360k in tech
Bronze temple
  12/19/25
Less than I want but way more than I deserve
vivacious reading party meetinghouse
  12/19/25
I value my wife’s admiration over tax advantages. The...
vermilion startling spot
  12/19/25
Shrew'd
vivacious reading party meetinghouse
  12/19/25
lol @ this flame. Women only care about what you can buy th...
Wonderful Coldplay Fan Giraffe
  12/19/25
She sees the tax return but not the brokerage statement. Sh...
vermilion startling spot
  12/19/25
(guy playing the long game) at the same time, this is the s...
fragrant nursing home
  12/19/25
thank you
vermilion startling spot
  12/19/25
I mean, don't rule anything out, there's something to be sai...
Flesh plaza half-breed
  12/19/25
Who wants to pay off my house
elite site doctorate
  12/19/25
negative money (lived off debt)
titillating native sneaky criminal
  12/19/25
~250, not bad but half as much as last year. :(
Aphrodisiac aggressive casino
  12/19/25
what happened
Amber ungodly main people
  12/19/25
i made a bunch of money off of JMIA last year. ironically if...
Aphrodisiac aggressive casino
  12/19/25
if there's one thing I've learned as a solo it's that annual...
Drunken rigpig black woman
  12/19/25
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Drab heaven international law enforcement agency
  12/19/25
Around 1.7 which is what I made last year. I'm starting to t...
arousing big-titted brunch
  12/19/25
$600k as solo lolyer.
transparent personal credit line
  12/19/25
Closer to a tenth of that for me. Nasty health problem decim...
irate gas station
  12/20/25
~$900k
stimulating generalized bond
  12/19/25
Paying tax on about $600K, but zero earned income.
snowy big home
  12/19/25
Wow.
Supple lime locale
  12/19/25
Let me know what I can do to earn about $20k from you.
grizzly slap-happy liquid oxygen
  12/19/25
How many blowjobs can I get for that?
snowy big home
  12/19/25
well my regular price is $20 per nut but since you're buying...
grizzly slap-happy liquid oxygen
  12/19/25
That 1/3 sounds disappointing.
snowy big home
  12/19/25
lol
maize therapy messiness
  12/19/25
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grizzly slap-happy liquid oxygen
  12/22/25
you guys are a bunch of studs, i'm in the 20th decile or so ...
fragrant nursing home
  12/19/25
the only threads on XO more full of shit than income threads...
effete filthpig
  12/19/25
...
fragrant nursing home
  12/19/25
I can do 12 full-extension, 13 with a bit of english on the ...
twinkling frozen garrison dopamine
  12/19/25
Lol rfk did 20pullups on video.
umber stubborn striped hyena
  12/19/25
if i used the same form and ROM as him i could crank off lik...
galvanic ebony stage factory reset button
  12/19/25
Try actually doing pull-ups. You will not get much more by s...
umber stubborn striped hyena
  12/20/25
LOL boor, his form was trash. controlled full ROM pullups fr...
effete filthpig
  12/21/25
You sound poor
Wonderful Coldplay Fan Giraffe
  12/19/25
but self-selection...
Haunting Station Headpube
  12/20/25
I dunno, like 10-15x the American average and also not nearl...
Brilliant sex offender
  12/19/25
XO to young poasters, " Do NOT go to law school!" ...
Self-absorbed Turdskin Tank
  12/19/25
Survivor bias. The people from my class who didn’t sur...
Brilliant sex offender
  12/19/25
Soo cr. Maybe half of the dudes I know about are still lawye...
vivacious reading party meetinghouse
  12/20/25
It would be fascinating to see some actual ROI data on law s...
Brilliant sex offender
  12/20/25
back in the day standard advice was only go to ls if you're ...
tantric histrionic university pistol
  12/20/25
Only once ITE hit. Before that, Gen Xers sleepwalked off a c...
Poppy narrow-minded halford
  12/20/25
TITCR. The Bill Henderson “Bi-modal distribution of st...
Brilliant sex offender
  12/20/25
this is correct. I started with 26 people in my summer c...
Rose theatre
  12/20/25
amazing how XO gets the top 1% of lawyers to poast here
Self-absorbed Turdskin Tank
  12/20/25
The personality that really likes it here actually thrives i...
Supple lime locale
  12/20/25
...
Drab heaven international law enforcement agency
  12/20/25
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tantric histrionic university pistol
  12/20/25
$160k. The same I made as a first year. Good thing there&r...
mentally impaired space cuckoldry
  12/19/25
I paid just under that in taxes this year
Bronze temple
  12/20/25
somewhere around $220k pre-bonus. bonus will likely be shit ...
territorial provocative wrinkle church
  12/20/25
this number includes all income, not just wagecucking.
territorial provocative wrinkle church
  12/20/25
actually it might be closer to $240k. idfk i don't keep clos...
territorial provocative wrinkle church
  12/20/25
A little over a mil. “Worked” ~10 hours a week. ...
Electric pervert
  12/20/25
How do you get your taxable income lower?
Navy Thirsty Rehab Electric Furnace
  12/20/25
Bought a car (100% depreciation) Pay myself rent -- I own ...
Electric pervert
  12/20/25
Creative but nothing fraud tp
Drab heaven international law enforcement agency
  12/20/25
Tell more about paralegal. How does she bring in cases?
Excitant twinkling uncleanness library
  12/21/25
Just by being likeable and talking to people and knowing wha...
Electric pervert
  12/21/25
...
Excitant twinkling uncleanness library
  12/21/25
About 1mil , I wagecucked a lot and this is my ceiling. Anyo...
umber stubborn striped hyena
  12/20/25
425k in a litigation boutique as a non-equity “partner...
Contagious church building gay wizard
  12/20/25
still waiting for bonus which will be 30% of my comp
Balding Blood Rage
  12/21/25
it's likely going to be around $580k this year. i started th...
ocher genital piercing
  12/21/25
That’s good. Do you have to leave a bunch of money in?...
Excitant twinkling uncleanness library
  12/21/25
at the prior firm, i bought in like $20k worth of shares. th...
ocher genital piercing
  12/21/25
We just work hard all year then deduct costs from fees earne...
Excitant twinkling uncleanness library
  12/22/25
Looks like I peaked in 2023 at $500k and I've been earning l...
Drab heaven international law enforcement agency
  12/21/25
it's surprising to me bc i used to not give a fuck about the...
ocher genital piercing
  12/21/25
are you hiring? can you mentor me? i really enjoyed ur saltw...
Drab heaven international law enforcement agency
  12/21/25
if i could, i would man. are you open to learning traditiona...
ocher genital piercing
  12/21/25
i dont think i wanna learn that. do you think i can bottom f...
Drab heaven international law enforcement agency
  12/21/25
yes but i am not sure what i can pay u. can i finish in ur a...
ocher genital piercing
  12/21/25
are you still pozzed?
Drab heaven international law enforcement agency
  12/21/25
undetectable brother
ocher genital piercing
  12/21/25
i guess you can finish in my ass. $50 if u can host
Drab heaven international law enforcement agency
  12/21/25
wow this is hot, let's take this off boart
ocher genital piercing
  12/21/25
$595k (which is like $390k after taxes)
ruby gunner macaca
  12/21/25
...
Hairraiser hunting ground sound barrier
  12/21/25
Should be $1.036m with rents and assuming the lab business c...
Copper mediation bawdyhouse
  12/21/25
600-800k in tech depending on stock price, haven’t rea...
Sepia cruise ship
  12/21/25
180 last note
cracking theater stage
  12/22/25
About 1.3 mil. Shitlaw boss, real estate investing and othe...
Navy Thirsty Rehab Electric Furnace
  12/21/25
that is 180, very impressive. very unlikely everything wi...
ocher genital piercing
  12/21/25
I think he has posted about her before. He’s doing a ...
Excitant twinkling uncleanness library
  12/21/25
i can't advocate for doing that, but that's just me. nobody ...
ocher genital piercing
  12/21/25
just do discreet affairs bro
Charcoal son of senegal
  12/21/25
Lol at all the poasters counting unrealized investment gains...
Navy Thirsty Rehab Electric Furnace
  12/24/25
I wouldn’t include it in my headline number but I do t...
pearl place of business corner
  12/26/25
CSLG free thread. Odd case.
hateful blue affirmative action shrine
  12/22/25
Great q. Most in-housemos have no idea since most won't kno...
Turquoise multi-colored office antidepressant drug
  12/22/25
count any bonus you received in calendar 2025
tantric histrionic university pistol
  12/23/25
I just started new job. Finished last shift of nights at 5am...
umber stubborn striped hyena
  12/22/25
About $310k in W2/1099, $50k in rental profit, and I think $...
pearl place of business corner
  12/22/25
Up $415,290. W2 wages are about 65% of that.
Supple lime locale
  12/22/25
whats the other 35%
tantric histrionic university pistol
  12/23/25
cap gains
twinkling frozen garrison dopamine
  12/25/25
are we counting cap gains in what we made this year? id need...
tantric histrionic university pistol
  12/25/25
I'm up like $440k now on the year.
Supple lime locale
  12/25/25
~$500k
Balding Blood Rage
  12/25/25


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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:47 PM
Author: Drab heaven international law enforcement agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49519900)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:48 PM
Author: tantric histrionic university pistol

710K

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49519904)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:50 PM
Author: Drab heaven international law enforcement agency

lawyer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49519912)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:54 PM
Author: tantric histrionic university pistol

yea

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49519925)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:55 PM
Author: Drab heaven international law enforcement agency

Biglaw?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49519931)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:51 PM
Author: fear-inspiring dog poop

Me: 842k

Wife: 267K

Including last year's bonus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49519915)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 6:05 PM
Author: diverse fishy roast beef nibblets

Lawyers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520498)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: fear-inspiring dog poop

My wife is in-house and I lie on the internet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520499)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Salmon rigor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520500)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: Light school cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522136)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:16 AM
Author: Amber ungodly main people



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522234)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:19 AM
Author: Drunken rigpig black woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522244)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 9:01 AM
Author: mentally impaired space cuckoldry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49524723)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: wine principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49528367)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 5:53 PM
Author: Hairraiser hunting ground sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49528449)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 6:28 PM
Author: Turquoise multi-colored office antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49528567)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 5:50 PM
Author: Wonderful Coldplay Fan Giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49531910)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:55 PM
Author: seedy business firm

$350kish, maybe more depending on how collections come in over the next two weeks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49519929)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:55 PM
Author: Drab heaven international law enforcement agency

Trash or legal fees?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49519933)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:58 PM
Author: seedy business firm

Picking up trash would be much more dignified

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520159)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: Light school cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522139)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:56 PM
Author: Laughsome windowlicker death wish

$130k in shitlaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49519936)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:57 PM
Author: Charcoal son of senegal

as a solo? associate? paralegal?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49519937)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:35 PM
Author: Laughsome windowlicker death wish

AssociaTTTe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520075)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:35 PM
Author: Drab heaven international law enforcement agency

why dont you go solo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520077)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:20 PM
Author: hilarious chrome den partner

I thought shitlawyers made $60K in MFH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522472)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:41 PM
Author: Laughsome windowlicker death wish

Nigger voicemail$

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49523830)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: jade startled piazza

A little over $300k as an in house fag. I'm pathetic and poor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49519948)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: jade startled piazza

When I was a young Inhousemo making $250k, I thought I was the shit. Xoxo told me that it was the only CR goal for a lawyer. And I had no kids.

Now I'm nearing 40 and practically live paycheck to paycheck. Exit ops are SLIM.

Turns out I was a retard for going in house.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520231)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:08 PM
Author: jade startled piazza

To be fair, I had a 180 billion lifestyle in my late 20s and early 30s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520240)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:26 PM
Author: cordovan police squad whorehouse

you should've lateraled to $750k 10-2 100% wfh in house ages ago, moron

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520352)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:30 PM
Author: tantric histrionic university pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520383)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:56 AM
Author: grizzly slap-happy liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522387)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 5:32 PM
Author: Hideous marvelous cumskin forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49528363)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:22 AM
Author: Light school cafeteria

In house is the exit option. There are no exist options from the exit option. What do you have in mind?

This is like seeing the ship you're on in the middle of the ocean catch fire, getting into a lifeboat and rowing away, and then saying you want an exit option from the lifeboat. You're lucky to be on that lifeboat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522250)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:55 AM
Author: transparent personal credit line



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522385)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: Excitant twinkling uncleanness library

Why is $300k paycheck to paycheck?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522508)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: jade startled piazza

Over $400k if you add wife.

After tax income: ~200k

Housing (vhcol area + 3 kids): ~100k

Child care: ~$50k

Add in some money to retirement and kids college, and not much left for day to day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522995)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 5:54 PM
Author: Excitant twinkling uncleanness library

You are doing better than paycheck to paycheck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49523480)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 4:26 PM
Author: Contagious church building gay wizard

you are retarded or lying because 400k with a family is not 200k after income taxes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49525980)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 5:25 PM
Author: Excitant twinkling uncleanness library

I had half my income withheld for taxes. I asked what the fuck and apparently we are prepaying for next quarter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49528347)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:01 PM
Author: 180 cyan school mood

286k so far. Prob will make another 15k. Wife 86k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49519951)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:23 AM
Author: Light school cafeteria

Does wife's post-tax salary cover the costs of childcare and other work-related expenses (work clothes, work commute, work bag, work Starbucks, work $19 lunch salad...)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522256)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:41 AM
Author: stimulating generalized bond

PATRIARCHY!!!

Of course it doesn’t.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522337)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:45 AM
Author: Light school cafeteria

Oh. So why does she work?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522351)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:04 PM
Author: racy fuchsia address fanboi

180k. worst year in total comp since pre covid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49519965)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:57 AM
Author: grizzly slap-happy liquid oxygen

don't you brag about being rich?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522392)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:06 PM
Author: fragrant nursing home

sorry to hear it but props for your candor in a thread full of guys bullshitting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522784)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 PM
Author: Disrespectful Tan French Chef Hospital

me: ~$400k wife: ~$325k

but i was also laid off



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49519995)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:15 PM
Author: cordovan police squad whorehouse

if u want chandler to slap u with his dick just say so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520019)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:36 PM
Author: Glassy internet-worthy trailer park incel

Very gauche to discuss. Any white people left on here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520082)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:04 PM
Author: Ultramarine water buffalo chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520207)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:45 PM
Author: Excitant twinkling uncleanness library

$790K. Wife made about $15K.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520114)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: Drab heaven international law enforcement agency

Doing what, and why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520142)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:58 PM
Author: Excitant twinkling uncleanness library

I am atty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520156)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:59 PM
Author: Drab heaven international law enforcement agency

I know that, I meant your wife

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520161)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:04 PM
Author: jade startled piazza

He's an attorney. What's so complicated?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520202)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 1:40 PM
Author: spectacular house

I understand that he's an attorney

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522699)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 1:43 PM
Author: spectacular house

I understand that he's an attorney

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522705)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 10:30 AM
Author: ocher genital piercing

I understand that he's an attorney

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49527326)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 12:33 AM
Author: twinkling frozen garrison dopamine

He's an attorney. What's so complicated?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49532966)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: spectacular house

I understand that he's an attorney

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49534294)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:06 PM
Author: cracking theater stage

Over 50k. Plus I got a $150 honorarium for a talk earlier this month. I'm fucking rich.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520223)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: Light school cafeteria

I'd love to get an honorarium one day. Very prestigious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522258)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 10:30 AM
Author: ocher genital piercing

yup, I'd love to get an honorarium one day. Very prestigious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49527328)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 12:49 PM
Author: cracking theater stage

You joke, but I'm unironically proud of my meagre token of prefthige. Intangible honours are more valuable than silver or gold.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49527624)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Excitant twinkling uncleanness library

I felt the same when I won a $100 poetry prize. In college. In 1993.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49531954)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 6:10 PM
Author: cracking theater stage

Lashing out because the board writ large is mocking you for bragging about a discount walmart watch?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49531959)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 6:35 PM
Author: Excitant twinkling uncleanness library

? Largely? It’s five unmarried childless losers pissed I’m buying a Rolex. One would hope there are more posters than that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49531998)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 11:01 PM
Author: ocher genital piercing

I was making fun of honaria. Whatever happened to him?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49532872)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 5:34 PM
Author: wine principal's office

lol I make more money than lex tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49528370)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 5:47 PM
Author: Excitant twinkling uncleanness library

Monkey driving a golf cart makes more money than that guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49528421)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 3:46 PM
Author: Poppy narrow-minded halford

I feel safe in this subthread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49531586)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 3:46 PM
Author: Poppy narrow-minded halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49531589)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 3:46 PM
Author: Poppy narrow-minded halford

lex how’s your dating life? jw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49531592)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: cracking theater stage

I only respond to such queries in old fashioned SUMMON: threads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49531824)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: cordovan police squad whorehouse

why are u dorks including ur wives' earnings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520253)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:14 PM
Author: Ultramarine water buffalo chapel

Same reason why they included what their wives harvested in their annual rice harvest numbers for the past 3000 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520283)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:27 PM
Author: cordovan police squad whorehouse

i don't even know whether my wife has a job

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520363)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:19 AM
Author: Drunken rigpig black woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522246)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: Light school cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522259)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 3:47 PM
Author: Poppy narrow-minded halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49531594)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: grizzly slap-happy liquid oxygen

not enough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520256)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 7:07 AM
Author: Supple lime locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49524556)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:15 PM
Author: Rose theatre

little under $6M

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520288)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:18 PM
Author: jade startled piazza

MFCR. State occupation, thank.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520304)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:30 PM
Author: fear-inspiring dog poop

271K TOPS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520377)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 6:37 PM
Author: Swashbuckling apoplectic boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520585)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:17 PM
Author: racy fuchsia address fanboi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520702)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 1:55 PM
Author: Rose theatre

sorry ur mad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522735)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: scarlet menage psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49525741)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: Indigo rambunctious quadroon

Six figures, champ.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520329)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Salmon rigor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520502)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 6:39 PM
Author: grizzly slap-happy liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520594)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Haunting Station Headpube



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49524786)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 6:27 PM
Author: Turquoise multi-colored office antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49528564)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: insecure spruce senate

-$184K

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520375)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Exciting Bistre Stain Idea He Suggested

I fail to see how this is relevant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520501)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 6:08 PM
Author: Cream dilemma

Pre tax or post tax? Including expected tax credits, debits, write ups, write downs, etc.? Including retirement account contributions, distributions, roll overs? Including K1 returns of capital? Including present value of future earnings? Including appreciation on value of assets? Net of amortization and depreciation on those assets? Very unclear op

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520506)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:18 AM
Author: Amber ungodly main people

holy fuck how jewish are you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522240)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 6:24 PM
Author: Mewling shivering indian lodge skinny woman

low-200s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520548)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 6:27 PM
Author: flirting set lettuce

0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520555)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 8:07 PM
Author: thriller bipolar dragon

like 2 million

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49520858)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:38 AM
Author: Bronze temple

$360k in tech

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522161)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:50 AM
Author: vivacious reading party meetinghouse

Less than I want but way more than I deserve

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522182)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: vermilion startling spot

I value my wife’s admiration over tax advantages. Therefore, I sold off my winners but held my losers so that our tax bill in April shows bigly long-term capital gains for 2025 when in reality I barely beat the index.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522192)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:03 AM
Author: vivacious reading party meetinghouse

Shrew'd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522198)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:03 AM
Author: Wonderful Coldplay Fan Giraffe

lol @ this flame. Women only care about what you can buy them and the lifestyle you can provide (ideally one where they don't think about money at all). Any woman autistic enough to care about big number on long term gains is going to be autistic enough to care about overall performance, not just a big number on a line. The woman you're describing does not exist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522202)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 1:36 PM
Author: vermilion startling spot

She sees the tax return but not the brokerage statement. She’ll see the big reported income but not the unrealized paper losses. She is indeed high T and autistic so she does care about the number.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522694)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: fragrant nursing home

(guy playing the long game)

at the same time, this is the sort of thinking that leads guys to do big ponzi schemes and then when they get found out they freak out and killself - don't do that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522791)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: vermilion startling spot

thank you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522969)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:43 PM
Author: Flesh plaza half-breed

I mean, don't rule anything out, there's something to be said for doing high roller ponzi until found out and then whatever happens happens

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49524077)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:03 AM
Author: elite site doctorate

Who wants to pay off my house

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522200)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:11 AM
Author: titillating native sneaky criminal

negative money (lived off debt)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522220)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:19 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac aggressive casino

~250, not bad but half as much as last year. :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522245)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:22 AM
Author: Amber ungodly main people

what happened

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522255)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:37 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac aggressive casino

i made a bunch of money off of JMIA last year. ironically if i had just held i'd be up even more today, but there's fucking way i would've survived that draw down.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522320)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:21 AM
Author: Drunken rigpig black woman

if there's one thing I've learned as a solo it's that annual earnings are flame.

my income fluctuated probably 400% from 2024 to 2025 but nothing really changed. money comes in at random without any reference to what "year" it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522248)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:28 AM
Author: Drab heaven international law enforcement agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522284)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:29 AM
Author: arousing big-titted brunch

Around 1.7 which is what I made last year. I'm starting to think I'll never cross into the 2 million range

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522287)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:40 AM
Author: transparent personal credit line

$600k as solo lolyer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522333)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: irate gas station

Closer to a tenth of that for me. Nasty health problem decimated my year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49525725)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: stimulating generalized bond

~$900k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522345)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:09 PM
Author: snowy big home

Paying tax on about $600K, but zero earned income.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522793)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:17 PM
Author: Supple lime locale

Wow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522813)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 3:35 PM
Author: grizzly slap-happy liquid oxygen

Let me know what I can do to earn about $20k from you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49523151)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 3:41 PM
Author: snowy big home

How many blowjobs can I get for that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49523174)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 4:20 PM
Author: grizzly slap-happy liquid oxygen

well my regular price is $20 per nut but since you're buying in bulk, i can go to $15. So, 1,333.33 blowjobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49523284)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 4:23 PM
Author: snowy big home

That 1/3 sounds disappointing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49523287)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: maize therapy messiness

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49523843)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 4:06 PM
Author: grizzly slap-happy liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49531645)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:18 PM
Author: fragrant nursing home

you guys are a bunch of studs, i'm in the 20th decile or so itt and honestly am pretty happy about it given my in-house lifestyle

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522815)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: effete filthpig

the only threads on XO more full of shit than income threads are max pullups in a single set threads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49522960)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 3:27 PM
Author: fragrant nursing home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49523114)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 4:23 PM
Author: twinkling frozen garrison dopamine

I can do 12 full-extension, 13 with a bit of english on the last one, at 235 bodyweight not flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49523288)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 5:16 PM
Author: umber stubborn striped hyena

Lol rfk did 20pullups on video.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49523407)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:24 PM
Author: galvanic ebony stage factory reset button

if i used the same form and ROM as him i could crank off like 30+

maybe once a month i will see someone at the gym doing legit full ROM dead-hang pull-ups. the rest are kipping crossfit turds just bouncing tension off their brachials and could probably not squeeze out eight clean reps.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49523780)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 2:11 PM
Author: umber stubborn striped hyena

Try actually doing pull-ups. You will not get much more by swinging unless you also don't go more than 1/2 up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49525630)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: effete filthpig

LOL boor, his form was trash. controlled full ROM pullups from a true dead hang (like required by most military testing) are substantially more difficult than what RFK and the road rules guy were doing. MTV was marginally better for form but still bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49529038)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 6:06 PM
Author: Wonderful Coldplay Fan Giraffe

You sound poor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49523499)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Haunting Station Headpube

but self-selection...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49524790)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:34 PM
Author: Brilliant sex offender

I dunno, like 10-15x the American average and also not nearly enough. Being working class rich fucking sucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49523808)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:56 PM
Author: Self-absorbed Turdskin Tank

XO to young poasters, " Do NOT go to law school!"

*rubs hands togther*

"But I made 750k last year!!!!!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49523866)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:08 PM
Author: Brilliant sex offender

Survivor bias. The people from my class who didn’t survive ITE probably have a very different perspective than I do.

And how many times when your friends kid asks you about going to law school do they sit down and tell you about their 158 LSAT / 3.4 GPA and grand dreams of going to Drexel and getting in at Dechert or Morgan Lewis. Maybe Drinker if they’ve got some sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49523884)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 8:23 AM
Author: vivacious reading party meetinghouse

Soo cr. Maybe half of the dudes I know about are still lawyers. Way less than half of the women.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49524660)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 11:14 AM
Author: Brilliant sex offender

It would be fascinating to see some actual ROI data on law school classes over time. I got a good return on mine, but yea all of the people who drop out of/evolve away from the profession would almost certainly have been better off not going $300k into debt (above and beyond undergrad) in their early 20s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49525097)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 2:45 PM
Author: tantric histrionic university pistol

back in the day standard advice was only go to ls if you're going to a t14

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49525701)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: Poppy narrow-minded halford

Only once ITE hit. Before that, Gen Xers sleepwalked off a cliff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49525737)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 5:59 PM
Author: Brilliant sex offender

TITCR. The Bill Henderson “Bi-modal distribution of starting lawyer salaries” scholarship was explosive at the time, and for good reason. It only came out in like 2008 and the blog it was on has been lost to time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49526155)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 9:22 AM
Author: Rose theatre

this is correct.

I started with 26 people in my summer class.

Of my summer class only two are partners at law firms - me and another guy I hired back to work for me as a W2 partner.

Two other guys have their own law firms but makes like 300k-500kyr

three others are in-house

All others are somewhere other than law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49524780)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 10:49 AM
Author: Self-absorbed Turdskin Tank

amazing how XO gets the top 1% of lawyers to poast here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49525050)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 11:18 AM
Author: Supple lime locale

The personality that really likes it here actually thrives in law practice too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49525106)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 11:27 AM
Author: Drab heaven international law enforcement agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49525129)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 2:45 PM
Author: tantric histrionic university pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49525700)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:10 PM
Author: mentally impaired space cuckoldry

$160k. The same I made as a first year. Good thing there’s been no inflation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49523890)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: Bronze temple

I paid just under that in taxes this year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49525732)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 8:29 AM
Author: territorial provocative wrinkle church

somewhere around $220k pre-bonus. bonus will likely be shit this year, however.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49524680)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 8:30 AM
Author: territorial provocative wrinkle church

this number includes all income, not just wagecucking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49524683)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 8:32 AM
Author: territorial provocative wrinkle church

actually it might be closer to $240k. idfk i don't keep close track of how much i make altogether; i focus on how much i save. won't know the exact number until i do taxes probably.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49524686)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 3:11 PM
Author: Electric pervert

A little over a mil. “Worked” ~10 hours a week. Pay taxes on much less.

Depositing 400k in fees first week of January too.

Solo PI.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49525770)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 4:22 PM
Author: Navy Thirsty Rehab Electric Furnace

How do you get your taxable income lower?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49525966)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 4:37 PM
Author: Electric pervert

Bought a car (100% depreciation)

Pay myself rent -- I own office building

Office building depreciation/property taxes

Did a lot of work to the office building. New AC/Furniture. I fully renovated it a couple years ago for like 200k. All adds value to property and gets written off.

like 75k in meals and travel

Gas

Health Insurance

Mortgage interest home/office

I prepay whatever expenses I can for the next year -- car insurance, ad spend, web marketing, etc.

~150k in staff salaries. Paralegal always pays for herself by bringing in cases so I don't really count that. I'm sending a demand on a DUI wreck she brought in in January for $1 mil.

Creative but nothing fraud.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49526021)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 6:02 PM
Author: Drab heaven international law enforcement agency

Creative but nothing fraud tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49526159)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 11:28 AM
Author: Excitant twinkling uncleanness library

Tell more about paralegal. How does she bring in cases?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49527453)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Electric pervert

Just by being likeable and talking to people and knowing what she's talking about. Lots of family members. She's probably brought in $1 mil in fees since she started with me ~8 years ago. I bought her a car last year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49528026)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 3:46 PM
Author: Excitant twinkling uncleanness library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49528065)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 3:45 PM
Author: umber stubborn striped hyena

About 1mil , I wagecucked a lot and this is my ceiling. Anyone who has 5mil networth can make over 10%/yr in qqq and pay much lesser than I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49525872)



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Date: December 20th, 2025 4:30 PM
Author: Contagious church building gay wizard

425k in a litigation boutique as a non-equity “partner”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49525997)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 10:03 AM
Author: Balding Blood Rage

still waiting for bonus which will be 30% of my comp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49527285)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 10:29 AM
Author: ocher genital piercing

it's likely going to be around $580k this year. i started the year as an equity partner where i got a monthly draw, then moved in april to a firm where i'm a nonequity partner. i forget exactly how much my equity payout for 2024 was, but i think it'll come in around 580.

next year, with my origination bonus for 2025, comp should be around 610-650. not sure what this place is doing with my base for next year, but it better go up because i had $1.8m in originations in 9 months.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49527322)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 10:31 AM
Author: Excitant twinkling uncleanness library

That’s good. Do you have to leave a bunch of money in? Is it pretax. Do you get your accountant to withhold tax?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49527331)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 10:37 AM
Author: ocher genital piercing

at the prior firm, i bought in like $20k worth of shares. they returned that to me after i left, but it had increased to like $45k. i figured they were gonna just keep my money. this was all w-2 income with withholdings done. that firm is set up so that everyone is a "shareholder" and employee of the firm it isn't a partnership. when i was in biglaw, when i made partner i got paid on a k-1 basis, which fucking blew.

i'm eligible for equity at this firm at the end of 2026, and i will make it no question. the money i have in the pipeline would be enough originations for 2026 to qualify because the threshold is pretty low here. even if my book implodes in january, i'll have enough.

equity formula, i understand, looks something like: 40% of your "working attorney" number plus 20% of originations, plus something for being a "good firm citizen." i'm filling a need this firm desperately needs - despite having a bunch of labor attorneys, they are entertainment labor lawyers, which means they don't do ANY NLRB litigation or collective bargaining. all they do is interpret 600-page CBAs that were negotiated decades ago and are renegotiated by some employer association. so i guess they will do something for me to reflect that.

if my book in 2027 looks like it does right now, i'd make $1,080,000 or so my first year as an equity partner. this firm is an actual partnership, unfortunately, so i will have to start my own corporation or some kind of bullshit and pay way more in taxes.

we have a dood in my office who sues foreign govts for terrorist acts and brings in like 20 million a year, and that apparently winds up being a windfall to all the equity partners.

all firms should be set up as companies, this partnership stuff sucks ass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49527344)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 4:27 PM
Author: Excitant twinkling uncleanness library

We just work hard all year then deduct costs from fees earned and whatever is left we split between each other based on ownership proportion. So if we had 4 million in profit and if I have a 25 percent interest then I get a million, less whatever I’ve been taking out to live on during the year. Say $200k for that.

It’s complicated by the need to leave some of that money in operations for the following year because we don’t take loans for that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49531713)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 10:36 AM
Author: Drab heaven international law enforcement agency

Looks like I peaked in 2023 at $500k and I've been earning less each year and next year I am really gonna be down big, meanwhile you keep going up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49527341)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 10:39 AM
Author: ocher genital piercing

it's surprising to me bc i used to not give a fuck about the business side of law. i've always been regarded as really good at what i do, but kind of an oddball and oblivious to biz dev, etc.

when i was in biglaw, an of counsel i hung around with always told me that if i sobered up and quit doing drugs/drinking 24/7, i could have a big book. turns out he was right ($2m is big for me, anyway, and i never thought i'd have anything like this.)

you're doing great brother, anything over 300k is really good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49527346)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 10:42 AM
Author: Drab heaven international law enforcement agency

are you hiring? can you mentor me? i really enjoyed ur saltwater tank threading and miss it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49527349)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 10:46 AM
Author: ocher genital piercing

if i could, i would man. are you open to learning traditional labor law?

i'll be saltthreading again soon. we moved out of our house in august to do a renovation. i have to run over there every few days to feed the fish and maintain the tank. it's 120.

we should be moving back in within a couple weeks and i will resume tank threading and maybe throw in some home renovation threading.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49527357)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 10:49 AM
Author: Drab heaven international law enforcement agency

i dont think i wanna learn that. do you think i can bottom for u instead?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49527369)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 10:50 AM
Author: ocher genital piercing

yes but i am not sure what i can pay u. can i finish in ur ass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49527372)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 11:22 AM
Author: Drab heaven international law enforcement agency

are you still pozzed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49527430)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 11:23 AM
Author: ocher genital piercing

undetectable brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49527434)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 11:26 AM
Author: Drab heaven international law enforcement agency

i guess you can finish in my ass. $50 if u can host

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49527443)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 11:36 AM
Author: ocher genital piercing

wow this is hot, let's take this off boart

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49527490)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 10:30 AM
Author: ruby gunner macaca

$595k (which is like $390k after taxes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49527325)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 5:53 PM
Author: Hairraiser hunting ground sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49528452)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 10:35 AM
Author: Copper mediation bawdyhouse

Should be $1.036m with rents and assuming the lab business collects as projected in December. The first over $1m year ever, bros.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49527340)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Sepia cruise ship

600-800k in tech depending on stock price, haven’t really checked

30hr/week

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49527544)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 11:09 PM
Author: cracking theater stage

180 last note

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49532880)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 1:00 PM
Author: Navy Thirsty Rehab Electric Furnace

About 1.3 mil. Shitlaw boss, real estate investing and other entrepreneurial activities.

It's a great blessing, and things have blown up fast over the last few years after years of toil. Last year was about 500k, 300k before that, lower for many years before that. This is a result of sustained business building, not one big settlement that won't be replicated.

However, this is a very risky seat to be sitting in. I'm a target in a wide variety of ways that I didn't anticipate, and everything could vanish at any moment. I am trying to take chips off the table and put them into safer assets where I can. But that's not easy to do.

Also, there is a hard, fairly low ceiling on my happiness because of my marriage to an angry, bitter woman who gets mad if she sees me enjoying myself. I don't want to divorce her for family reasons, but matters may come to a head in 2026.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49527645)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 4:45 PM
Author: ocher genital piercing

that is 180, very impressive.

very unlikely everything will implode immediately. just plow like $2m into index funds over time and max out retirement accounts. that's what i'm doing. wife and i currently have close to $3m in retirement accounts and if i get to $2m in taxable, i won't worry at all about my book blowing to pieces.

but honestly, you will probably continue doing well so don't worry.

on the marriage, you should try to save it if you think it's salvageable, but if it really is far gone then you should split up. don't stay together for money. but don't be so fast to peace out. maybe if she knows you are putting your foot down, she will knock off her bullshit. maybe not, but you should give it a shot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49528240)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: Excitant twinkling uncleanness library

I think he has posted about her before. He’s doing a mitzvah staying w her for the kids sake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49528342)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 5:42 PM
Author: ocher genital piercing

i can't advocate for doing that, but that's just me. nobody should ever do what i did and blow up a good marriage just because they're doing mounds of cocaine and strange pussy, but i also don't believe that you should stay if your relationship is in the shitty and not recoverable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49528390)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 5:30 PM
Author: Charcoal son of senegal

just do discreet affairs bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49528356)



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Date: December 24th, 2025 11:21 PM
Author: Navy Thirsty Rehab Electric Furnace

Lol at all the poasters counting unrealized investment gains to come up with their headline numbers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49538515)



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Date: December 26th, 2025 10:13 AM
Author: pearl place of business corner

I wouldn’t include it in my headline number but I do think it’s good to note.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49540547)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 3:04 PM
Author: hateful blue affirmative action shrine

CSLG free thread. Odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49531487)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 6:03 PM
Author: Turquoise multi-colored office antidepressant drug

Great q. Most in-housemos have no idea since most won't know bonuses for a bit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49531946)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 8:06 AM
Author: tantric histrionic university pistol

count any bonus you received in calendar 2025

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49533223)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 6:28 PM
Author: umber stubborn striped hyena

I just started new job. Finished last shift of nights at 5am and today at 9am started new job. Tomorrow will go for a swim before work.. but so far it doesn't seem like it's that easy. But as long as I get to take a 30minute run for lunch plus actually eat another 30 mins it might be a step up from working nights. Bit hourly rate is also lower.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49531986)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 11:05 PM
Author: pearl place of business corner

About $310k in W2/1099, $50k in rental profit, and I think $470k or so in gains (mostly unrealized) and dividends.

Haven’t done the taxes yet though, will report back later.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49532876)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 11:08 PM
Author: Supple lime locale

Up $415,290. W2 wages are about 65% of that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49532879)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: tantric histrionic university pistol

whats the other 35%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49533222)



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Date: December 25th, 2025 9:02 PM
Author: twinkling frozen garrison dopamine

cap gains

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49539832)



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Date: December 25th, 2025 10:58 PM
Author: tantric histrionic university pistol

are we counting cap gains in what we made this year? id need to revise my number

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49540017)



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Date: December 25th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Supple lime locale

I'm up like $440k now on the year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49540047)



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Date: December 25th, 2025 6:55 AM
Author: Balding Blood Rage

~$500k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2Elisa#49538879)