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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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rusted alpha business firm
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
insecure flushed office indirect expression
  12/16/25
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rusted alpha business firm
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
dark painfully honest gunner multi-billionaire
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
insecure flushed office indirect expression
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
dark painfully honest gunner multi-billionaire
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
insecure flushed office indirect expression
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
dark painfully honest gunner multi-billionaire
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
rusted alpha business firm
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
insecure flushed office indirect expression
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
dark painfully honest gunner multi-billionaire
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
insecure flushed office indirect expression
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
dark painfully honest gunner multi-billionaire
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rusted alpha business firm
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insecure flushed office indirect expression
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
brilliant frum genital piercing theatre
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
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brilliant frum genital piercing theatre
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Honey-headed arrogant national security agency menage
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
insecure flushed office indirect expression
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
charismatic house
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
insecure flushed office indirect expression
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
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rusted alpha business firm
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i love scholarship
Unholy Offensive Hospital Organic Girlfriend
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Floppy Obsidian Mediation Mental Disorder
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Unholy Offensive Hospital Organic Girlfriend
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rusted alpha business firm
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rusted alpha business firm
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There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
dark painfully honest gunner multi-billionaire
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Ruddy Curious Spot
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: rusted alpha business firm



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: insecure flushed office indirect expression

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: rusted alpha business firm

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: dark painfully honest gunner multi-billionaire

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: insecure flushed office indirect expression

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: dark painfully honest gunner multi-billionaire

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: insecure flushed office indirect expression

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: dark painfully honest gunner multi-billionaire

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: rusted alpha business firm

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: insecure flushed office indirect expression

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: dark painfully honest gunner multi-billionaire

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: insecure flushed office indirect expression

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: dark painfully honest gunner multi-billionaire

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: rusted alpha business firm



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: insecure flushed office indirect expression



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: brilliant frum genital piercing theatre

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: insecure flushed office indirect expression

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: brilliant frum genital piercing theatre



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Honey-headed arrogant national security agency menage

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: insecure flushed office indirect expression

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: charismatic house

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: insecure flushed office indirect expression

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Turquoise karate elastic band

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: insecure flushed office indirect expression



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: rusted alpha business firm



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Unholy Offensive Hospital Organic Girlfriend

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Floppy Obsidian Mediation Mental Disorder

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: insecure flushed office indirect expression



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Unholy Offensive Hospital Organic Girlfriend



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: rusted alpha business firm



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: rusted alpha business firm



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: dark painfully honest gunner multi-billionaire

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Ruddy Curious Spot

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515738)