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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Honey-headed Sinister Lay Dog Poop
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
milky police squad
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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nyuug
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
talking khaki friendly grandma den
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
White vivacious son of senegal gaping
  05/29/25
(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
talking khaki friendly grandma den
  05/29/25
They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
White vivacious son of senegal gaping
  05/29/25
read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
talking khaki friendly grandma den
  05/29/25
Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
adventurous pearly mother
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Salmon stirring voyeur
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Glittery Duck-like Business Firm Corn Cake
  07/13/25
what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
Haunting fear-inspiring chapel masturbator
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cq
exciting senate
  05/29/25
I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
Burgundy kitty cat
  06/03/25
teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
adventurous pearly mother
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
razzle-dazzle university potus
  06/08/25
Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
comical stead
  07/01/25
really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Honey-headed Sinister Lay Dog Poop

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: milky police squad

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: milky police squad

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: milky police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: milky police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: milky police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: milky police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: milky police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: milky police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: milky police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: milky police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: milky police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49117359)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: talking khaki friendly grandma den

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: White vivacious son of senegal gaping

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: talking khaki friendly grandma den

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: White vivacious son of senegal gaping

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: talking khaki friendly grandma den

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: adventurous pearly mother

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Salmon stirring voyeur



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Glittery Duck-like Business Firm Corn Cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Haunting fear-inspiring chapel masturbator

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: exciting senate

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Burgundy kitty cat

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: adventurous pearly mother

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle university potus

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: comical stead

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: hairraiser light boistinker

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49105022)