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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM Author: self-absorbed chad abode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515456) |
Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM Author: dun personal credit line Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515464) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM Author: self-absorbed chad abode 18000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515486) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM Author: Frisky Tanning Salon The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515508) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM Author: dun personal credit line Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515518) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM Author: Frisky Tanning Salon The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515523) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: dun personal credit line wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515534) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM Author: Frisky Tanning Salon Guns are muktzah. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515647) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM Author: self-absorbed chad abode I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515667) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM Author: dun personal credit line that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:
In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.
https://outorah.org/p/21842/ |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM Author: Frisky Tanning Salon Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515928) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM Author: dun personal credit line state where you got semicha from before i engage you further (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515958) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM Author: Frisky Tanning Salon Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516569) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM Author: self-absorbed chad abode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516693) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM Author: dun personal credit line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516697) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM Author: Territorial Hell how do they get home? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515699) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM Author: dun personal credit line they still live in walking distance.
they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.
people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM Author: Territorial Hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516177) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM Author: puce effete property presumably you couldnt fire the gun though? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515525) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM Author: dun personal credit line correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515537) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM Author: federal faggotry regret Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515697) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: dun personal credit line ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515722) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM Author: beady-eyed judgmental garrison How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515731) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM Author: dun personal credit line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515735) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM Author: self-absorbed chad abode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516689) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM Author: Ocher Church Building i love scholarship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515767) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM Author: Glassy Station genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516135) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM Author: dun personal credit line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516412) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM Author: Ocher Church Building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516560) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM Author: self-absorbed chad abode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516683) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM Author: self-absorbed chad abode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516681) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM Author: Frisky Tanning Salon There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516698) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM Author: blathering metal cuckoldry is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515738) |