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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM Author: Cerise Black Woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515456) |
Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM Author: Swollen Chapel Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515464) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM Author: Cerise Black Woman 18000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515486) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM Author: fuchsia preventive strike The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515508) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM Author: Swollen Chapel Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515518) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM Author: fuchsia preventive strike The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515523) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: Swollen Chapel wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515534) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM Author: fuchsia preventive strike Guns are muktzah. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515647) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM Author: Cerise Black Woman I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515667) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM Author: Swollen Chapel that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:
In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.
https://outorah.org/p/21842/ |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM Author: fuchsia preventive strike Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515928) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM Author: Swollen Chapel state where you got semicha from before i engage you further (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515958) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM Author: fuchsia preventive strike Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516569) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM Author: Cerise Black Woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516693) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM Author: Swollen Chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516697) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM Author: clear gunner how do they get home? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515699) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM Author: Swollen Chapel they still live in walking distance.
they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.
people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM Author: clear gunner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516177) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM Author: Claret free-loading sneaky criminal presumably you couldnt fire the gun though? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515525) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM Author: Swollen Chapel correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515537) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM Author: Floppy lemon lodge newt Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515697) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: Swollen Chapel ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515722) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM Author: cerebral station How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515731) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM Author: Swollen Chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515735) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM Author: Cerise Black Woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516689) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM Author: onyx wild stage i love scholarship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515767) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM Author: splenetic mental disorder university genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516135) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM Author: Swollen Chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516412) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM Author: onyx wild stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516560) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM Author: Cerise Black Woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516683) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM Author: Cerise Black Woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516681) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM Author: fuchsia preventive strike There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49516698) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM Author: hyperactive henna private investor stag film is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Elisa#49515738) |