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WH pushing Ukraine to forgo Crimea and NATO for peace
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Date: April 21st, 2025 2:20 AM Author: Trump Tariffs Can Do No Wrong (TDNW) no recognition of the 4 partially occupied territories
Ukraine could sooner give up NATO aspirations (w/ continued military aid) than Crimea probably. and from an international law perspective I think this sets a terrible precedent |
Date: April 21st, 2025 2:28 AM Author: AZNgirl Nominating Her Jewish Handsome as New Pope urkaine is shit and furk hohols but ljl at trumps retardation totally getting played cannot get a peace deal said first day he'll get one what a moron (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713780&forum_id=2Elisa#48865808) |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 2:31 AM Author: hank_scorpio the stock market went down, literally nobody gives a single fuck about ukraine anymore and I was telling you retards this would happen from the beginning (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713780&forum_id=2Elisa#48865810) |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 2:34 AM Author: Karlstack's intern ya fuck zelenskyy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713780&forum_id=2Elisa#48865814) |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 2:41 AM Author: Trump Tariffs Can Do No Wrong (TDNW) link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713780&forum_id=2Elisa#48865821) |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 2:47 AM Author: AZNgirl Nominating Her Jewish Handsome as New Pope i wld sacrifice all 40 million whatever hohols for a .1% gain in the US stock market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713780&forum_id=2Elisa#48865826) |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 2:57 AM Author: hank_scorpio and you are not alone in your selfishness and piggery (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713780&forum_id=2Elisa#48865831) |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 3:07 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. There are something like 20-25 million under the Zelensky regime. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713780&forum_id=2Elisa#48867479) |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 10:21 AM Author: LathamTouchedMe I didn't other details. What would happen with sanctions? security guarantees? Or is this just another "give this up to keep russia at the table" and hope for agreement on additional details later on? The admin's unwillingness to put any pressure on Russia is the problem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713780&forum_id=2Elisa#48866591) |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 10:25 AM Author: Trump is the first woman President (TT6) sanctions get lighter but some stay. (hint, sanctions are currently weak as fuck anyways)
Trump did more to hurt Russia financially than Biden did |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 10:59 AM Author: LathamTouchedMe I guess tanking the market to lower oil prices has hit russia very hard. But seriously, there's a lot more the admin can do to pressure russia, including going after ghost ships/tankers like Canada and the EU wanted to do, threatening more military aid to Ukraine, giving long-range weapons and authorizing their use on russian soil. This is not the best possible deal that UKR could get. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713780&forum_id=2Elisa#48866709) |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 3:06 PM Author: Trump is the first woman President (TT6) fuck UKR. Its about whats best for USA.
Trump cut oil prics by 20% which probably cut Russia's oil profits by 50%. |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 3:17 PM Author: Trump Tariffs Can Do No Wrong (TDNW) ruble also got much stronger, which means tax revenues are doubly fucked (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713780&forum_id=2Elisa#48867514) |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 11:04 AM Author: Trump Tariffs Can Do No Wrong (TDNW) yes obviously it’s very incomplete to say the least. but the game seems for both sides to try and seem like they are going along with Trump while making the other side seem intransigent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713780&forum_id=2Elisa#48866722) |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 2:39 PM Author: LathamTouchedMe the problem is that the admin seems content to place the blame on Ukr while they put no pressure on Russia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713780&forum_id=2Elisa#48867393) |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 2:55 PM Author: Trump Tariffs Can Do No Wrong (TDNW) unless Ukraine makes itself worthwhile to core US interests, russia will have the advantage
really no different than it was with Biden except Trump is more open about it |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 10:55 AM Author: Faggottini Crimea was always going to go, most obvious bargaining chip (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713780&forum_id=2Elisa#48866699) |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 11:05 AM Author: Trump Tariffs Can Do No Wrong (TDNW) but in return for what?
I asked my Ukrainian friend and he said they would do it for nukes for sure.. |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 2:25 PM Author: Bronus Swagner It's a great move for the US: ends the war, restores relations with Russia, establishes that wars of conquest are legitimate again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713780&forum_id=2Elisa#48867352) |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 2:34 PM Author: ...,....,,........ Promises Made; Promises Kept. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713780&forum_id=2Elisa#48867385) |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 2:26 PM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.../.,, Why does this seem newsworthy to you? This is like asking me to forgo having a 10 inch dick and being a 6'10 superstar NBA small forward
This was never in the realm of possibility to begin with |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 2:53 PM Author: Trump Tariffs Can Do No Wrong (TDNW) pretty terrible analogy
Ukraine could refuse to recognize Crimea as russian in perpetuity. the U.S. never recognized any of the Baltic states as Soviet, for example |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 3:38 PM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.../.,, Who gives a fuck? What is the practical significance of "not recognizing" territory you can never control without being nuked? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713780&forum_id=2Elisa#48867617) |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 3:40 PM Author: Trump Tariffs Can Do No Wrong (TDNW) things change, Mox
by not recognizing Crimea they have leverage and continue attacks. if they’re gonna give it up, they’re gonna want something quite significant in exchange |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 3:11 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. It isn't like that at all. Ukraine is never getting Crimea back under any circumstances and Russia isn't giving up the other 4 regions either. In reality, this is an offer neither side will accept.
I'll make a written prediction here: the Trump administration said several times recently that if there isn't massive progress then the US will just walk away from this war. My prediction is that both sides will reject this and then the Trump administration will declare that they are entirely neutral in this war and walking away. Sanctions will slowly get more and more waivers and weaken. Otherwise, the war will simply continue on. No more Ukraine funding bills or anything else. The focus will shift to Asia and the Middle East. |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 3:19 PM Author: Trump Tariffs Can Do No Wrong (TDNW) lol russia doesn’t even control all of the other 4 regions either and probably never will
and you’re dumb ass thinks they will get Odessa lol |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 3:38 PM Author: """'"'"""'' so basically things go back to exactly where they were before Russia invaded? millions of casualties later Russia gets nothing? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713780&forum_id=2Elisa#48867622) |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 3:40 PM Author: Trump Tariffs Can Do No Wrong (TDNW) russia lost this war 3 years ago. the rest is just details (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713780&forum_id=2Elisa#48867632) |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 5:06 PM Author: ;::;:;;::;;;;;:::: (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713780&forum_id=2Elisa#48867986) |