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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Misanthropic Boistinker Station
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Fighting Umber Pozpig
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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nyuug
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
rough-skinned sable school degenerate
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
bull headed mauve heaven roast beef
  05/29/25
(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
rough-skinned sable school degenerate
  05/29/25
They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
bull headed mauve heaven roast beef
  05/29/25
read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
rough-skinned sable school degenerate
  05/29/25
Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
Haunting Razzle Sex Offender Dragon
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Trump Tariffs Can Do No Wrong
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Paralegal Muhammad
  07/13/25
what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
Beady-eyed wine step-uncle's house hunting ground
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cq
Passionate mad cow disease
  05/29/25
I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
deranged yarmulke set
  06/03/25
teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
Haunting Razzle Sex Offender Dragon
  07/02/25
i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
Cracking People Who Are Hurt
  06/08/25
Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
flushed school cafeteria
  07/01/25
really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
waste land of reality
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Misanthropic Boistinker Station

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Fighting Umber Pozpig

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Fighting Umber Pozpig

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Fighting Umber Pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Fighting Umber Pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Fighting Umber Pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Fighting Umber Pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Fighting Umber Pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Fighting Umber Pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49105012)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: rough-skinned sable school degenerate

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: bull headed mauve heaven roast beef

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: rough-skinned sable school degenerate

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: bull headed mauve heaven roast beef

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: rough-skinned sable school degenerate

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Haunting Razzle Sex Offender Dragon

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Trump Tariffs Can Do No Wrong (TDNW)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Paralegal Muhammad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Beady-eyed wine step-uncle's house hunting ground

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Passionate mad cow disease

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: deranged yarmulke set

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Haunting Razzle Sex Offender Dragon

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Cracking People Who Are Hurt

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: flushed school cafeteria

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: waste land of reality

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49105022)