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This Is All Biden’s Fault (NYT Opinion)

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/09/opinion/joe-biden-kamala-...
Mainlining The Secret Truths of My Mahchine
  11/09/24
I mean her record on immigration could have been better if s...
propecia mathematica
  11/09/24
To be fair, A retarded and shrill black woman just ran th...
To be fair
  11/09/24
180, hope they double down lmao
The Kobe Bryant School of Rotary Wing Aviation
  11/09/24
Oh yeah, Amy Klobuchar would definitely have won.
Ass Sunstein
  11/09/24
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To be fair
  11/09/24
*throws binder at ur head*
the place where there is no darkness
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Peter Brady
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Ass Sunstein
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The Kobe Bryant School of Rotary Wing Aviation
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Candy Ride
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aspie
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MASE
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snoot
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The Kobe Bryant School of Rotary Wing Aviation
  11/09/24
"Amy Klob-- no, no folks, don't boo okay? she's a real ...
Senator Lindsey Graham
  11/10/24
>By Josh Barro Jo Sbarro is a Supreme Court correspond...
...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
  11/09/24
lol. In early 2013, he was a prominent supporter of a pot...
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  11/09/24
Libs are now saying Biden was a shitty president with an ind...
snoot
  11/09/24
On xo
cowstack
  11/09/24
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  11/09/24
this was my main take away. where the fuck was this kind of ...
UhOh
  11/09/24
Imagine being Pelosi and Schumer, having just convinced all ...
JD Vance (retired)
  11/09/24
Newsom would have been blown out of the water just like Kama...
.- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .
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Ass Sunstein
  11/09/24
Whatever the truth in that, Schumer and Pelosi thought diffe...
JD Vance (retired)
  11/09/24
Newsom did Adam Carolla a few years ago and got destroyed. R...
.- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .
  11/09/24
kamala is a historically bad candidate and we'll never know ...
sealclubber
  11/10/24
Kamala running instead of Biden is the one thing making 2020...
borders (retired)
  11/09/24
If you’re blaming Biden, what you’re really sayi...
Sniggle
  11/10/24
180
Senator Lindsey Graham
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TRUMP cheeks
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The Kobe Bryant School of Rotary Wing Aviation
  11/10/24
Devastating
aspie
  11/10/24
Favreau is now shitting on Biden too, and Clooney is running...
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Date: November 9th, 2024 6:25 PM
Author: Mainlining The Secret Truths of My Mahchine (It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again)

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/09/opinion/joe-biden-kamala-harris-trump.html

By Josh Barro

Mr. Barro writes the newsletter Very Serious and is the host of the podcast “Serious Trouble.”

Kamala Harris lost the election this week, but I mostly don’t blame her. At least, I don’t blame her because of anything she did recently. Since she became the unofficial nominee in July, she played a difficult hand about as well as she could have, running a disciplined campaign that sought to reassure Americans about the economic issues that trouble them most, in a political environment that was very rough for Democrats and for incumbent parties around the world.

But where did that bad hand come from? It was dealt to her by two people: President Biden, who produced a governing record she could not effectively defend or run away from; and herself, with all the toxic position-taking she did in 2019, generating endless attack ad fodder for Donald Trump. And Mr. Biden even bears blame for Ms. Harris’s pre-2020 baggage, since he put her on the ticket in full awareness that she was carrying it.

In his own campaign rhetoric, Mr. Biden focused on the idea that democracy itself was on the ballot this year. But if democracy was on the ballot, his actions should have matched his rhetoric at every turn to ensure Democrats would win the election. Instead, he prioritized his own ego and profile.

His electoral instincts weren’t always so misguided. During the 2020 primary campaign, Mr. Biden seemed to understand that the left-wing fever dreams that drove that Democratic cycle were electorally hazardous. So, unlike Ms. Harris, he never pledged to ban fracking or abolish private health insurance. He never even filled out the A.C.L.U. questionnaire that prompted Ms. Harris to support federally funded gender-transition surgery for prisoners and detained immigrants.

After winning the nomination, Mr. Biden made his first big mistake that would set Democrats on a path with no route to win the 2024 election: He selected Ms. Harris as his running mate.

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Perversely, Ms. Harris’s apparent weakness as a potential presidential candidate was an asset to Mr. Biden. It helped insulate him from calls to step aside. The case for him running again was simple, and I even made it myself, before June’s disastrous debate: Ms. Harris had run a terrible campaign in 2019, and at the time she regularly polled worse than he did; if Mr. Biden did not seek re-election, it was highly likely that she would end up as the nominee; therefore, he had better run again.

If Amy Klobuchar or Gretchen Whitmer were vice president, the calculus would have been very different, and I think that the calls for Mr. Biden to step aside would have come much earlier and much louder — and if he had stepped aside in favor of one of them, we would have had a much stronger nominee who could not so easily be attacked as extreme and out of touch. That woman might well be the president-elect right now.

Once in office, Mr. Biden undermined Ms. Harris. He assigned her responsibility for addressing “root causes” of illegal migration in early 2021, but it wasn’t until this year that he issued an executive order aimed at the abuse of our asylum system and stemmed the wave of irregular migration that defined most of his presidency. He both failed to try to resolve the border problem and ensured that Ms. Harris would bear more than a vice president’s usual share of blame for it.

Mr. Biden’s border failure ended up being Democrats’ second-biggest political problem in this election. The biggest was inflation — a global phenomenon, to be fair, though here in the United States, Mr. Biden did make matters worse by signing the excessively large American Rescue Plan, which overstimulated the economy in 2021.

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He failed to prioritize disinflationary policy — where, for example, was permitting reform? — and instead spent much of 2022 looking for ways to pass the spending demanded by Democratic interest groups. As a result, prices were too high, and the Federal Reserve bore the brunt of fighting inflation through raising interest rates.

In the midterms, assisted no doubt by the furious reaction to the repeal of Roe v. Wade and despite Mr. Biden’s sagging approval ratings, Democrats escaped disaster, especially in Senate races, where they actually picked up one seat. They lost the House of Representatives, but not by as wide a margin as many people expected.

Mr. Biden apparently took this middling result as an endorsement of his leadership, and he pressed on toward re-election. He also failed to pivot policy toward the center — serious efforts toward a bipartisan border security deal, for example, did not emerge until late 2023, and the deal collapsed in early 2024. By then, Mr. Trump was well on his way to being the Republican nominee and had the influence to kill the package and deny Democrats both a policy victory and some of the tools needed to best mitigate the problems at the border.

All the while Mr. Biden and his close associates worked to conceal from Democratic Party leaders and the public the fact that his faculties were declining. Even after the June debate debacle, Mr. Biden and his minions still spent a month insisting that he was fine.

By the time he stepped aside in July, it was most likely too late for anyone other than Ms. Harris to succeed him as the candidate. Mr. Biden endorsed her immediately. This may have been the best choice for the party — a chaotic convention fight would have consumed time and resources and would probably still have ended up with Ms. Harris as the nominee, but a little more beaten up after a last-ditch intraparty campaign to replace her. (The need to contest the nomination and impress progressive activists might also have made it harder for her to shake the Etch A Sketch by, for example, repudiating her past support for a fracking ban.)

If Mr. Biden had stepped aside earlier — say, shortly after the midterm elections — there would have been time for a primary campaign that could have produced a different nominee with less baggage, someone like Ms. Whitmer or Josh Shapiro. It’s impossible to know whether a different nominee would have produced different results, but that candidate would have had much more liberty to criticize Mr. Biden’s record.

Once Mr. Biden finally did step aside, he mostly stayed out of the way. But there was still a parade of on-background news stories about how bitter and dejected the president and his closest associates were about the fact that he was pushed aside — why do these people whine to reporters instead of to their therapists? — and he could not bring himself to stay off the campaign trail even though he was, at this point, a hindrance, not a help, for Ms. Harris.

In the last week of the campaign, he stepped on her “closing argument” speech by suggesting on a Zoom call that Trump supporters are “garbage.” One gaffe most likely didn’t matter for the final result, but it showed that Mr. Biden too often could not find the best way to help Democrats win, even when the way was something as simple as shutting up.

He failed at that, as he had many things, and he deserves to be judged harshly for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48316327)



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Date: November 9th, 2024 6:39 PM
Author: propecia mathematica

I mean her record on immigration could have been better if she did anything good as border czar instead of sipping wine and laughing as thousands of illegals streamed in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48316368)



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Date: November 9th, 2024 6:48 PM
Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded)

To be fair,

A retarded and shrill black woman just ran the worst POTUS campaign in the history of America, and somehow, at least according to liberal medai Jews, there are really only two people who are fundamentally to blame for the fact that she got thrashed on election day: an old straight white goy guy, and another other old straight white goy guy.

Lol libs you truly never learn.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48316403)



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Date: November 9th, 2024 8:58 PM
Author: The Kobe Bryant School of Rotary Wing Aviation (FAGGOTCHIPPER / Hegemon)

180, hope they double down lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48316947)



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Date: November 9th, 2024 7:08 PM
Author: Ass Sunstein

Oh yeah, Amy Klobuchar would definitely have won.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48316494)



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Date: November 9th, 2024 7:10 PM
Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48316505)



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Date: November 9th, 2024 7:17 PM
Author: the place where there is no darkness

*throws binder at ur head*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48316538)



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Date: November 9th, 2024 7:24 PM
Author: Peter Brady



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48316567)



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Date: November 9th, 2024 7:32 PM
Author: Ass Sunstein



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48316616)



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Date: November 10th, 2024 1:26 AM
Author: The Kobe Bryant School of Rotary Wing Aviation (FAGGOTCHIPPER / Hegemon)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48317724)



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Date: November 10th, 2024 10:25 AM
Author: Candy Ride



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48318439)



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Date: November 10th, 2024 8:08 PM
Author: aspie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48320405)



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Date: November 9th, 2024 7:21 PM
Author: MASE



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48316556)



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Date: November 9th, 2024 7:27 PM
Author: snoot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48316579)



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Date: November 9th, 2024 8:51 PM
Author: The Kobe Bryant School of Rotary Wing Aviation (FAGGOTCHIPPER / Hegemon)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48316903)



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Date: November 10th, 2024 11:50 AM
Author: Senator Lindsey Graham

"Amy Klob-- no, no folks, don't boo okay? she's a real nice lady. Amy Klobuchar, she's really a nice - her policies are a disaster though - her - her, and I heard they call her "egg farts" Klobuchar. That's what her campaign calls her, I heard it! Don't blame me, I just heard that okay?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48318742)



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Date: November 9th, 2024 7:25 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


>By Josh Barro

Jo Sbarro is a Supreme Court correspondent.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48316571)



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Date: November 9th, 2024 7:28 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


lol.

In early 2013, he was a prominent supporter of a potential trillion-dollar coin,[11] but by late 2013, he had changed his mind.[12]



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48316586)



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Date: November 9th, 2024 7:26 PM
Author: snoot

Libs are now saying Biden was a shitty president with an indefensible record? Where was all that talk over the last 4 years when that record was being made?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48316576)



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Date: November 9th, 2024 7:29 PM
Author: cowstack

On xo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48316593)



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Date: November 9th, 2024 7:35 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48316622)



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Date: November 9th, 2024 9:33 PM
Author: UhOh

this was my main take away. where the fuck was this kind of objectivity for the past 4 years?

but there's some bullshit in there, too. biden's "minions" kept his dementia hidden from the public? like, the nyt? biden picked her for vp because she wasn't a rival? not because the media would've excoriated him had he not?

also they're way too generous with her. it was a real shitty situation, but she was a real shitty candidate with a record of saying some silly shit she couldn't get away from. but he undermined her? come on. he gave her the biggest shot of her life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48317046)



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Date: November 9th, 2024 7:51 PM
Author: JD Vance (retired)

Imagine being Pelosi and Schumer, having just convinced all of the big donors to force Biden out of the race by cutting off his funds. They've made the call, Biden has folded, and they are now the biggest dogs in the Democrat party, planning their next steps, talking about some sort of mini-primary where Obama and Hilary get to choose the next candidate. The conversation has moved on to the fine points of Shapiro vs. Newsom when Biden's tweet comes out.

"The fucking senile old mick endorsed who?!?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48316713)



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Date: November 9th, 2024 8:00 PM
Author: .- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .

Newsom would have been blown out of the water just like Kamala. Same with Shapiro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48316729)



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Date: November 9th, 2024 8:04 PM
Author: Ass Sunstein



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48316741)



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Date: November 9th, 2024 8:18 PM
Author: JD Vance (retired)

Whatever the truth in that, Schumer and Pelosi thought differently.

In their view, Kamala is an historically bad candidate. Any real politician would have killed to go on Rogan for 3 hours of unfiltered media coverage. Instead she sends the Senator with actual brain damage as her surrogate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48316797)



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Date: November 9th, 2024 8:58 PM
Author: .- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .

Newsom did Adam Carolla a few years ago and got destroyed. Rogan would have eaten him for lunch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48316945)



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Date: November 10th, 2024 8:06 PM
Author: sealclubber

kamala is a historically bad candidate and we'll never know how anyone else would have done because she was so terrible.

"If Amy Klobuchar or Gretchen Whitmer were vice president"

i like how this shitlib reflects on a what if, but can't name a black woman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48320399)



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Date: November 9th, 2024 8:09 PM
Author: borders (retired)

Kamala running instead of Biden is the one thing making 2020 vs 2024 vote totals look slightly less suspect. This also gets her the fuck out of the way, she either wins or GTFO. It was a good plan imo because she sucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48316764)



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Date: November 10th, 2024 10:02 AM
Author: Sniggle

If you’re blaming Biden, what you’re really saying is Kamala was a horrible candidate. Biden gave Kamala the most enviable start to a campaign in US history. No bruising primary. No long campaign against her. Even all the economic metrics (except the opinion polls, which are ultimately the only ones that matter) looked good on paper. Trump had just survived an assassination attempt, had run circles around Biden during a presidential debate, and was so cocky that he started making “questionable” (among the mainstream political elite at least) decisions like nominating an inexperienced barely-known like Vance for VP. Trump was taking a victory lap at the RNC. And then suddenly, Biden dropped out, endorsed Kamala, and took all the wind out of Trump’s sails. They were clearly caught off guard, and didn’t know how to respond. Donors didn’t have to worry about backing on Dem nominee over another, so they all just got behind her and she raised more than any candidate in history. She had the most favorable press coverage of any candidate in living memory; Trump’s assassination attempt was completely forgotten about by the press less than two weeks after it happened. She won the endorsements of neocons like Cheney. Literally every factor possible was stacked in her favor by Biden, and she still blew it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48318379)



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Date: November 10th, 2024 10:12 AM
Author: Senator Lindsey Graham

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48318401)



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Date: November 10th, 2024 10:14 AM
Author: TRUMP cheeks (🍑 Pronouns: Ausländer/Raus döp dödö döp)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48318406)



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Date: November 10th, 2024 11:05 AM
Author: ;..........,,,...,,.;.,,...,,,;.;.




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Date: November 10th, 2024 8:01 PM
Author: The Kobe Bryant School of Rotary Wing Aviation (FAGGOTCHIPPER / Hegemon)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48320390)



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Date: November 10th, 2024 8:24 PM
Author: aspie

Devastating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48320432)



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Date: November 10th, 2024 10:56 AM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


Favreau is now shitting on Biden too, and Clooney is running for the hills.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5631076&forum_id=2Elisa#48318553)