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How did US airline carriers get so good at not crashing?

When I was a kid we used to have a major crash every couple ...
supple stead
  01/13/25
Maintenance in non-US countries is TTT, mostly due to corrup...
bistre piazza friendly grandma
  01/13/25
Was aircraft maintenance shitty in the US in the 1990s?
supple stead
  01/13/25
lessons learned from every crash make planes/air travel safe...
Spectacular step-uncle's house clown
  01/13/25
Did the US require fewer hours in the 1990s?
supple stead
  01/13/25
the bump to current levels came after the Buffalo crash whic...
Spectacular step-uncle's house clown
  01/13/25
also, US comm'l pilots used to be former AF/navy bros before...
iridescent up-to-no-good crackhouse depressive
  01/13/25
What you’re suggesting means we should have MORE crash...
supple stead
  01/13/25
DEI shit is relatively new and DBG is a retard
bearded knife national
  01/13/25
no, DEI is too new
iridescent up-to-no-good crackhouse depressive
  01/13/25
(guy who wasn’t alive in the 1990s)
supple stead
  01/13/25
was surprised to learn the EU doesnt let a private / corp pi...
learning disabled feces useless brakes
  01/13/25
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180 mauve sandwich digit ratio
  01/13/25
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racy lay
  01/13/25
Were there legitimately more crashes per mile or whatever in...
Mahogany Bull Headed Incel
  01/13/25
No there were several hull loss incidents involving major US...
supple stead
  01/13/25
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woah
  01/30/25
Boomers
fragrant bossy old irish cottage brunch
  01/13/25
WIND SHEAR was a big deal in the early 90s. My impression i...
Rose Garrison
  01/13/25
What was the last major hull loss incident where everyone di...
curious sticky azn
  01/13/25
Yes, that's the last one. And the last regional hull loss w...
vivacious idiot
  01/13/25
I have yet to read a convincing explanation beyond some vari...
vivacious idiot
  01/13/25
For a while the explanation I always heard and believed was ...
supple stead
  01/13/25
Increased diversity in engineering/maintenance/pilot staffin...
Heady Salmon Church Indirect Expression
  01/13/25
there are less birdshit pilots now, united even has all turd...
Frum chapel
  01/13/25
As good as they’ve gotten they still weren’t saf...
,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,.,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.
  01/30/25
This probably sounded a lot better in your head
Hysterical bitchmade deepstate faggot
  01/30/25


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Date: January 13th, 2025 12:50 PM
Author: supple stead

When I was a kid we used to have a major crash every couple of years, sometimes multiple ones. Popular Mechanics even ran this issue in 1995:

https://wonderclub.com/images/POPMECH/POPMECH199502.jpg

Now it’s just dumb stuff like some bolts fell off a door but the plane landed safely.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663353&forum_id=2Elisa#48548882)



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Date: January 13th, 2025 12:51 PM
Author: bistre piazza friendly grandma

Maintenance in non-US countries is TTT, mostly due to corruption and dishonesty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663353&forum_id=2Elisa#48548885)



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Date: January 13th, 2025 12:52 PM
Author: supple stead

Was aircraft maintenance shitty in the US in the 1990s?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663353&forum_id=2Elisa#48548887)



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Date: January 13th, 2025 12:53 PM
Author: Spectacular step-uncle's house clown

lessons learned from every crash make planes/air travel safer + US requires waaaaaay more minimum hours for pilots than foreign carriers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663353&forum_id=2Elisa#48548889)



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Date: January 13th, 2025 12:54 PM
Author: supple stead

Did the US require fewer hours in the 1990s?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663353&forum_id=2Elisa#48548894)



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Date: January 13th, 2025 12:56 PM
Author: Spectacular step-uncle's house clown

the bump to current levels came after the Buffalo crash which was 2009.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663353&forum_id=2Elisa#48548895)



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Date: January 13th, 2025 12:58 PM
Author: iridescent up-to-no-good crackhouse depressive

also, US comm'l pilots used to be former AF/navy bros before all the DEI bullshit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663353&forum_id=2Elisa#48548903)



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Date: January 13th, 2025 1:10 PM
Author: supple stead

What you’re suggesting means we should have MORE crashes now not fewer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663353&forum_id=2Elisa#48548943)



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Date: January 13th, 2025 1:12 PM
Author: bearded knife national

DEI shit is relatively new and DBG is a retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663353&forum_id=2Elisa#48548955)



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Date: January 13th, 2025 1:24 PM
Author: iridescent up-to-no-good crackhouse depressive

no, DEI is too new

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663353&forum_id=2Elisa#48548994)



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Date: January 13th, 2025 3:08 PM
Author: supple stead

(guy who wasn’t alive in the 1990s)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663353&forum_id=2Elisa#48549283)



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Date: January 13th, 2025 12:56 PM
Author: learning disabled feces useless brakes

was surprised to learn the EU doesnt let a private / corp pilot fly over their space if he is over 65.

never heard of any other industry actually putting any limits on boomers whatsoever. fucking potus is 1899234 years old.

imagine if we ice-floated boomers in every industry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663353&forum_id=2Elisa#48548897)



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Date: January 13th, 2025 2:21 PM
Author: 180 mauve sandwich digit ratio



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663353&forum_id=2Elisa#48549136)



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Date: January 13th, 2025 3:14 PM
Author: racy lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663353&forum_id=2Elisa#48549306)



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Date: January 13th, 2025 1:17 PM
Author: Mahogany Bull Headed Incel

Were there legitimately more crashes per mile or whatever in the 80s and 90s? Or were they just huge stories because cable news was getting started.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663353&forum_id=2Elisa#48548976)



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Date: January 13th, 2025 1:22 PM
Author: supple stead

No there were several hull loss incidents involving major US airlines. Now they’re practically unheard of.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663353&forum_id=2Elisa#48548989)



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Date: January 30th, 2025 8:55 AM
Author: woah (hitler did nothing wrong)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663353&forum_id=2Elisa#48605021)



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Date: January 13th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: fragrant bossy old irish cottage brunch

Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663353&forum_id=2Elisa#48548999)



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Date: January 13th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: Rose Garrison

WIND SHEAR was a big deal in the early 90s. My impression is that advanced radar has basically made it no longer a deadly issue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663353&forum_id=2Elisa#48549007)



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Date: January 13th, 2025 1:32 PM
Author: curious sticky azn

What was the last major hull loss incident where everyone died? Excluding smaller regional jets. The queens crash from 2001? It’s pretty wild that they are this reliable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663353&forum_id=2Elisa#48549018)



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Date: January 13th, 2025 2:01 PM
Author: vivacious idiot

Yes, that's the last one. And the last regional hull loss was the 2009 crash near Buffalo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663353&forum_id=2Elisa#48549089)



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Date: January 13th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: vivacious idiot

I have yet to read a convincing explanation beyond some variant of "they made improvements and learned from past mistakes." It's probably just luck. Sooner or later there will be a crash caused by faulty design, outsourced maintenance to Latin America, DEI hiring for pilots/ATCs, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663353&forum_id=2Elisa#48549131)



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Date: January 13th, 2025 3:14 PM
Author: supple stead

For a while the explanation I always heard and believed was that there were so many boomer pilots with decades of experience working for US carriers that pilot errors had become increasingly uncommon and successful troubleshooting of in-flight issues by those boomers was common. But those boomers have been retiring for over a decade now and we still have safe air travel so I no longer think that’s the reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663353&forum_id=2Elisa#48549302)



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Date: January 13th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: Heady Salmon Church Indirect Expression

Increased diversity in engineering/maintenance/pilot staffing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663353&forum_id=2Elisa#48549141)



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Date: January 13th, 2025 2:27 PM
Author: Frum chapel

there are less birdshit pilots now, united even has all turd pilot crew

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663353&forum_id=2Elisa#48549157)



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Date: January 30th, 2025 8:46 AM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,.,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.


As good as they’ve gotten they still weren’t safe from Trump being CIC of the military. No one is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663353&forum_id=2Elisa#48605005)



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Date: January 30th, 2025 9:30 AM
Author: Hysterical bitchmade deepstate faggot

This probably sounded a lot better in your head

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663353&forum_id=2Elisa#48605079)