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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Onyx Deranged Orchestra Pit
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Medicated lemon dilemma sound barrier
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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nyuug
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
walnut hell mother
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
sexy base
  05/29/25
(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
walnut hell mother
  05/29/25
They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
sexy base
  05/29/25
read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
walnut hell mother
  05/29/25
Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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zombie-like cruise ship jew
  07/13/25
what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
Silver Gaped Lettuce
  05/29/25
cq
Indigo coldplay fan
  05/29/25
I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
Alcoholic Bossy Therapy
  06/03/25
teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
Razzmatazz Rambunctious Jewess National
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
Peach Thriller Parlour Depressive
  06/08/25
Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
Azure yarmulke
  07/01/25
really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Onyx Deranged Orchestra Pit

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Medicated lemon dilemma sound barrier

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Medicated lemon dilemma sound barrier

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Medicated lemon dilemma sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Medicated lemon dilemma sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Medicated lemon dilemma sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Medicated lemon dilemma sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Medicated lemon dilemma sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Medicated lemon dilemma sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Medicated lemon dilemma sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Medicated lemon dilemma sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Medicated lemon dilemma sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49117359)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: walnut hell mother

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: sexy base

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: walnut hell mother

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: sexy base

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: walnut hell mother

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Rambunctious Jewess National

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: floppy area hominid



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: zombie-like cruise ship jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Silver Gaped Lettuce

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Indigo coldplay fan

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Alcoholic Bossy Therapy

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Razzmatazz Rambunctious Jewess National

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Peach Thriller Parlour Depressive

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Azure yarmulke

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Adventurous fantasy-prone set fat ankles

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Elisa#49105022)