I don't know if it's the testosterone drop, the wife nagging, the fear of losing everything, or a combination of all of these and more. But married guys with kids don't just become "betas," they transform into something even more extreme than that. They become provider drones who engage in only the most ridiculously pathetic surrogate activities and their "opinions" on the world become disgustingly tame and cowed

When I was a young adult, I used to admire family men, because I knew how hard it was for my dad and for the other family men I knew as a kid, and I anticipated it being very difficult for me too when I got to that stage of my life. But these guys are for the most part just damaged goods losers. And it's not like this is a foregone conclusion either: I've known plenty of married guys with kids who didn't transform into pathetic drone losers. It's just increasingly rarer and rarer to meet these guys

The modern world becoming a gay, retarded lib shithole is mostly due to these guys. You can try to blame it on women and Jews but that rings hollow when you realize that if these beta drone losers just didn't willingly go along with all their nonsense, it would never happen. I'm becoming more and more convinced that the marriage and feminism crisis is actually a good thing, because there needs to be a radical culling of these genes from the gene pool. Women need to stop reproducing with these guys and giving them *more* rights and privileges, not less, helps that happen

Btw this is the main reason why "zoomers" and younger kids are all gay and effete now: because that's what their dads are like. It's not the microplastics or whatever, although maybe that helps too. This shit is a disaster and women are right to complain about men and refuse to pair up with the losers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5673405&forum_id=2Elisa#48609231)

It doesn’t have to be this way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5673405&forum_id=2Elisa#48609306)

Just make sure your kids don't grow up to be betas like their dad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5673405&forum_id=2Elisa#48609478)

"I might still impregnate a woman"

"I might still impregnate a woman"

"I might still impregnate a woman"

"I might still impregnate a woman"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5673405&forum_id=2Elisa#48609812)

Make women choose between alpha fucks and beta bucks and force them to stick with their choice. The market will self correct

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5673405&forum_id=2Elisa#48609280)

That’s what they always were.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5673405&forum_id=2Elisa#48609364)

it used to be GOD. family. the green bay packers. that is, there was always a common driving force behind society which was more important than any one individual's family. then we vaporized it, so now the most important thing is "being a dad" to the extent that if your utmost consideration in all things isn't "what's best for my children" you're a fucking loser.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5673405&forum_id=2Elisa#48609788)

will think about this, ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5673405&forum_id=2Elisa#48609820)

this isn't compatible with civilization. like the poaster pointed out above, civilization can only happen when everyone believes in something more than their self-interest. there is no emergent Society from the combined, patchworked self-interests of the atomized masses. it only happens when men share a common vision and belief

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5673405&forum_id=2Elisa#48609908)

also rapetiles here: man i wish more people believed in god

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5673405&forum_id=2Elisa#48609893)

"work" or engaging in something at least nominally productive outside the household historically has just been more difficult/risky/etc. and generally exclusively male so deriving some sense of identification, pride, or personal value from it didn't immediately come off as weird/hollow/soulless in the way it does now because it at least expressed in some sense the person's actual place in the world meaningfully

when "work" is spending a lifetime as an asexualized cog in a schizophrenic game of musical chairs and playing hall monitor then caring about it beyond something that you have to do out of necessity to support a family just marks you as an evil faggot to anyone normal

also just generally speaking this ends up impacting what the nature of the household since it's supportive of the whole thing and desk jobs and women working just means women are going to define it more

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5673405&forum_id=2Elisa#48609951)

bc your OP is reminding me of that old joke, "man something stinks i could smell it when i got off the elevator" "yeah i also could smell it when you got off the elevator!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5673405&forum_id=2Elisa#48609887)

it's not pleasurable to be de-limbed and turned into a blackmailable serf by one of the most comically corrupt, visionless, and openly deviant sets of "elites" since the days of Byzantium

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5673405&forum_id=2Elisa#48609959)

The "pathetic drone" phenomenon stems from systemic incentives, not 100% inherent male failure…the squeeze on day care costs, healthcare, basic housing, cost of food etc etc reduces most men to being away from one wrong move - so they “lock in” to survive a hellscape of scams to provide for family rather than take massive risk - all done by design too

Lock in = going gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5673405&forum_id=2Elisa#48609948)

no one has to be like this. it's a choice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5673405&forum_id=2Elisa#48609983)

____________________

In the quiet hum of daily life,

Where dreams once soared on wings of fire,

Men don the guise of duty's weight,

Their passions smothered by the mire.

Once, they danced with reckless grace,

Heartbeats wild, laughter free,

But love, with all its tender chains,

Sometimes dims that spirit, you see.

Eyes that once sparkled with ambition’s light,

Now reflect the shadows of responsibility's call,

In the roles of fathers and husbands, they stand,

Yet inside, some whisper, “Is this it, after all?”

But deeper than the drone, beneath the surface calm,

Lies a garden of dreams still waiting to bloom,

In the folds of routine, the sacred and mundane,

A flicker of hope still cuts through the gloom.

So let us not brand them with a single trait,

For within every heart, a tempest might rise—

For love can both nurture and stifle the flame,

Yet within its embrace, a new passion can guise.

In the balance of life, let their stories unfold,

Where men may evolve, yet retain their own spark,

For in the journey of love, they grow, they adapt,

Navigating shadows while reaching for the dark.

Transformation is not loss, but a cycle reborn,

In the tapestry of life, vibrant threads can entwine—

So let us honor the shift, the metamorphosis true,

For beneath the drone’s hum, their spirit will shine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5673405&forum_id=2Elisa#48610088)