Folks stumble defining fascism because there's usually a generalised assumption that fascism is a fixed state. This this is not the case, it is a fluid political process reflected in different movements and times in history in context of capitalist crisis and social breakdown. There is no checklist; it has to be understood in its own historical context.

Despite the lack of checklist, the primary agent for fascist movements and repression is always a takeover of the state and its transformation via purges, intimidation, indoctrination, and retaliation to bring the existing bourgeois state in line with the fascist programming of choice, along with a curbing of individual freedoms and liberties generally.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700388&forum_id=2Elisa#48795972)

what do you do? wait for every single deportation case to drag through district courts until you leave office having achieved nothing? and let the opposition firebomb and agitate, accept their designation of you as literal hitler? or maybe try everything you can WITHIN the law, not even departing from it, to attempt to save the country, even if it is a little more aggressive than anything we've seen in 80 years (but definitely NOT the most aggressive actions ever taken by presidents to neutralize foreign threats from within, in fact far from it)?

what do you do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700388&forum_id=2Elisa#48795993)

LMAO brother, you asked him to tailor his definition of facism (which is the broadly accepted academic definition, on the nose) to your extremely narrow TRUMP=SAVIOR HERO argument that whittles down all the issues to panicky “they’re sending us criminals!” boomer arguments and borderline conspiracy theories about foreign agents. you are the reason why XO old-timers laugh at the level of discourse on the great bort these days. your reponse is on par with the shit my 70 year old high school-educated uncle spams all day on facebook.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700388&forum_id=2Elisa#48797647)

(also i did not ask him to tailor his definition of fascism, in which i am entirely uninterested)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700388&forum_id=2Elisa#48797851)

Fascist movements tend to be the state's purchase of their mercenary force to pwotect them fwom the scaowwy people with their scaowwwy thwots and different stwuff to their own stwuff - who keep asking for a system that's not rigged against them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700388&forum_id=2Elisa#48796019)

naturally the wealthy and elites freaked the fuck out and went all in on identity politics. that suited the people tacitly backing trump just fine for a while because it took the heat off and he kept the focus on divisive social politics. but now that’s where he’s at, he is running the government like a retard and trashing market security so they’re turning on him. a recent anonymous poll of peteoleum execs of all people found they’re savagely against trump now — it won’t be long until the corporate interests turn on him and start backing the next centrist dem/pseudo obama to maintain the staus quo. trump is dumb and bad for business and that’ll ultimately be fatal to the ‘movement.’

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700388&forum_id=2Elisa#48797662)

What is Fascism?

TRIBUNE 1944

Of all the unanswered questions of our time, perhaps the most important is: ‘What is Fascism?’

One of the social survey organizations in America recently asked this question of a hundred different people, and got answers ranging from ‘pure democracy’ to ‘pure diabolism’. In this country if you ask the average thinking person to define Fascism, he usually answers by pointing to the German and Italian régimes. But this is very unsatisfactory, because even the major Fascist states differ from one another a good deal in structure and ideology.

It is not easy, for instance, to fit Germany and Japan into the same framework, and it is even harder with some of the small states which are describable as Fascist. It is usually assumed, for instance, that Fascism is inherently warlike, that it thrives in an atmosphere of war hysteria and can only solve its economic problems by means of war preparation or foreign conquests. But clearly this is not true of, say, Portugal or the various South American dictatorships. Or again, antisemitism is supposed to be one of the distinguishing marks of Fascism; but some Fascist movements are not antisemitic. Learned controversies, reverberating for years on end in American magazines, have not even been able to determine whether or not Fascism is a form of capitalism. But still, when we apply the term ‘Fascism’ to Germany or Japan or Mussolini's Italy, we know broadly what we mean. It is in internal politics that this word has lost the last vestige of meaning. For if you examine the press you will find that there is almost no set of people — certainly no political party or organized body of any kind — which has not been denounced as Fascist during the past ten years. Here I am not speaking of the verbal use of the term ‘Fascist’. I am speaking of what I have seen in print. I have seen the words ‘Fascist in sympathy’, or ‘of Fascist tendency’, or just plain ‘Fascist’, applied in all seriousness to the following bodies of people:

Conservatives: All Conservatives, appeasers or anti-appeasers, are held to be subjectively pro-Fascist. British rule in India and the Colonies is held to be indistinguishable from Nazism. Organizations of what one might call a patriotic and traditional type are labelled crypto-Fascist or ‘Fascist-minded’. Examples are the Boy Scouts, the Metropolitan Police, M.I.5, the British Legion. Key phrase: ‘The public schools are breeding-grounds of Fascism’.

Socialists: Defenders of old-style capitalism (example, Sir Ernest Benn) maintain that Socialism and Fascism are the same thing. Some Catholic journalists maintain that Socialists have been the principal collaborators in the Nazi-occupied countries. The same accusation is made from a different angle by the Communist party during its ultra-Left phases. In the period 1930-35 the Daily Worker habitually referred to the Labour Party as the Labour Fascists. This is echoed by other Left extremists such as Anarchists. Some Indian Nationalists consider the British trade unions to be Fascist organizations.

Communists: A considerable school of thought (examples, Rauschning, Peter Drucker, James Burnham, F. A. Voigt) refuses to recognize a difference between the Nazi and Soviet régimes, and holds that all Fascists and Communists are aiming at approximately the same thing and are even to some extent the same people. Leaders in The Times (pre-war) have referred to the U.S.S.R. as a ‘Fascist country’. Again from a different angle this is echoed by Anarchists and Trotskyists.

Trotskyists: Communists charge the Trotskyists proper, i.e. Trotsky's own organization, with being a crypto-Fascist organization in Nazi pay. This was widely believed on the Left during the Popular Front period. In their ultra-Right phases the Communists tend to apply the same accusation to all factions to the Left of themselves, e.g. Common Wealth or the I.L.P.

Catholics: Outside its own ranks, the Catholic Church is almost universally regarded as pro-Fascist, both objectively and subjectively;

War resisters: Pacifists and others who are anti-war are frequently accused not only of making things easier for the Axis, but of becoming tinged with pro-Fascist feeling.

Supporters of the war: War resisters usually base their case on the claim that British imperialism is worse than Nazism, and tend to apply the term ‘Fascist’ to anyone who wishes for a military victory. The supporters of the People's Convention came near to claiming that willingness to resist a Nazi invasion was a sign of Fascist sympathies. The Home Guard was denounced as a Fascist organization as soon as it appeared. In addition, the whole of the Left tends to equate militarism with Fascism. Politically conscious private soldiers nearly always refer to their officers as ‘Fascist-minded’ or ‘natural Fascists’. Battle-schools, spit and polish, saluting of officers are all considered conducive to Fascism. Before the war, joining the Territorials was regarded as a sign of Fascist tendencies. Conscription and a professional army are both denounced as Fascist phenomena.

Nationalists: Nationalism is universally regarded as inherently Fascist, but this is held only to apply to such national movements as the speaker happens to disapprove of. Arab nationalism, Polish nationalism, Finnish nationalism, the Indian Congress Party, the Muslim League, Zionism, and the I.R.A. are all described as Fascist but not by the same people.

* * *

It will be seen that, as used, the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley's broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else.

Yet underneath all this mess there does lie a kind of buried meaning. To begin with, it is clear that there are very great differences, some of them easy to point out and not easy to explain away, between the régimes called Fascist and those called democratic. Secondly, if ‘Fascist’ means ‘in sympathy with Hitler’, some of the accusations I have listed above are obviously very much more justified than others. Thirdly, even the people who recklessly fling the word ‘Fascist’ in every direction attach at any rate an emotional significance to it. By ‘Fascism’ they mean, roughly speaking, something cruel, unscrupulous, arrogant, obscurantist, anti-liberal and anti-working-class. Except for the relatively small number of Fascist sympathizers, almost any English person would accept ‘bully’ as a synonym for ‘Fascist’. That is about as near to a definition as this much-abused word has come.

But Fascism is also a political and economic system. Why, then, cannot we have a clear and generally accepted definition of it? Alas! we shall not get one — not yet, anyway. To say why would take too long, but basically it is because it is impossible to define Fascism satisfactorily without making admissions which neither the Fascists themselves, nor the Conservatives, nor Socialists of any colour, are willing to make. All one can do for the moment is to use the word with a certain amount of circumspection and not, as is usually done, degrade it to the level of a swearword.

1944

THE END

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700388&forum_id=2Elisa#48795983)

I'm pretty much sober, have been for years. It's great.

I don't have kids because I'm taking care of my dying father - I'm actually back in the US about half the year now. I left years and years ago after taking care of my mother through her 2 year cancer battle - she was given 6 weeks originally, so it was pretty fucking amazing. After she died in front of me as her stomach was ripped apart by the spreading tumors, we buried her, and I left the country for a career opportunity I couldn't say no to. Amazingly, my world was pretty fucked up there for a bit. I'm glad I'm healthy now and I'm a much better person for all the shit I've been through and have put myself through.

What's your excuse for acting like a wee bairn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700388&forum_id=2Elisa#48796296)

need to run otherwise would give more time to a response - maybe later.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700388&forum_id=2Elisa#48796301)

How is this guy - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2025/mar/28/its-cold-as-shit-us-vice-president-arrives-in-greenland-video - a thing?

Feel like the larger problem is the seething hatred on all sides. I don't see a path towards diffusing everything.

Maga isn't durable, but what will be left.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700388&forum_id=2Elisa#48796321)

https://youtu.be/tm0juqBgG08?si=cU39H7bOxtDgEuQq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700388&forum_id=2Elisa#48796324)

"Liberal" as a label mutated into a bizarre Eldritch entity you could only describe as "TWD"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700388&forum_id=2Elisa#48796322)

the left know that when chill, fratty straight white males are left to run everything as nature intended, they prove to be the most lenient and evenhanded to be ruled by (that's actually how we got into this mess; post-Enlightenment aristocratic euro males came mistakenly to believe that everyone is as capable as themselves of being rational and impartial, and in a spirit of noblesse oblige gradually extended the franchise and too many rights to people who cannot handle them).

whereas 'leftism' is ultimately like being ruled by the proverbial 'scorned woman,' a menstruating Jewish hysteric full of burning ressentiments (race resentment, class resentment, sex inferiority resentment), and always ends in the killing fields and mass slaughter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700388&forum_id=2Elisa#48796638)

there has been no "right wing reactionary violence" and mainly what we've seen is fat libs wiping their asses on parked Teslas

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700388&forum_id=2Elisa#48796933)

homosexual phobia, an irrational fear of homosexual people. OP claims this is a rampant feature of trump's second term. The president, his cabinet, the federal government at large, and americans in general are irrationally TERRIFIED of homosexual people.

OP won't defend this absurd claim, because he (and we) all know that the word isnt meant to mean what it means. Its intended to signal any disapproval of queering, or the pornographic remaking of american society in which every interaction, every relationship, from pre-school through hospice, must in some way reflect or celebrate anal sex.

Don't like picture books that feature anal sex in government mandated elementary schools? Homophobia. Reject gay men cruising in army barracks, because its bad for troop morale? Homophobia. Feel some disgust at adult men disfiguring female opponents in martial arts? Homophobe. Don't feel its the US's international mission to encourage homosexual behavior in every nation on earth? Extreme irrational fear of homos.

This is explicitly how OP defines "fascism", rendering every other word in his rant disingenuous and worthless. You either support, with your dollars, your voice, your whole self, the celebration of anal sex... or youre a fascist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700388&forum_id=2Elisa#48798839)

What I said is that there is no checklist - it has to be looked at in its own historical context. Homophobia and the maligning of tertiary groups is a common characteristic of historically fascist movements. If there's a sentiment against a fringe group, the administration will leverage that, blow it up out of proportion to further entrench the "us" versus "them" mentality in order to keep the proletariat busy fighting amongst themselves.

Keep going poppet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700388&forum_id=2Elisa#48802401)