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WSJ: The Competition to Get Into Law School Is Brutal This Year
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Date: March 16th, 2025 1:04 AM Author: AZNgirl demanding 1000% Tariff on AZNmale Embryos LOL CUCKS, Jews always win in the end
The Competition to Get Into Law School Is Brutal This Year Applications are surging as students seek stability in a difficult job market By Sara Randazzo March 15, 2025 5:30 am ET
The University of Michigan Law School now has more applications than ever before. A weakening white-collar job market and a contentious political climate are fueling interest in law school, leading to one of the most competitive years for would-be law students in recent memory. The number of applicants to the nation’s nearly 200 law schools is up 20.5% compared with last year. Georgetown University Law Center alone received 14,000 applications to fill 650 spots, while the University of Michigan Law School now has more applications than at any point in its 166 years of existence. When Michigan Law’s admissions dean, Sarah Zearfoss, shared the numbers with faculty members, “The whole room gasped,” she said. The heightened competition is creating busy admissions offices and anxious candidates awaiting decisions. Some prospective law students are targeting dozens of schools to boost their chances, as the barriers to entry rise and institutions keep their options open with lengthy wait lists. Law-school deans and applicants point to several possible reasons for this year’s surge, including economic forces, a recent public spotlight on the legal system, and changes to the law-school admission test. The market for office jobs is slowing, with many laid-off workers in technology and other sectors struggling to find full-time work. Even some with M.B.A.s from top schools can’t quickly land a job.
Some prospective law students are targeting dozens of schools to boost their chances. Many perceive law as a stable career and one more immune to AI advancements than other industries. The starting salary for lawyers at large corporate law firms has soared to $225,000, a number that lures many law-school applicants even though only a fraction of graduates land such jobs. Popular law schools are heavily using wait lists to make sure there isn’t overenrollment. Some campuses now have tiered lists and “priority” groups that applicants liken to airline boarding, which can give them a better sense of where they stand. For those on Georgetown Law’s three levels of wait lists, “The bad news is, you’ve applied during a year that’s the most competitive we’ve ever had,” said Andrew Cornblatt, the school’s dean of admissions. “The good news is, because it’s unpredictable, I think there will be some movement.” Many hopefuls pore over online forums in which people share their credentials and admissions results, leading to detailed dissections of their odds of getting in. “It’s probably not great for anyone’s mental health,” said Andreas Saint-Rouge, who has applied to 11 law schools since November and has been frustrated by the slow responses from most of them. At Michigan Law, Zearfoss said she initially discounted the rise, thinking it would level off. Then, in November, she told faculty members that applications were up 30%. They were stunned. “I thought, oh, maybe this is a bigger deal than I thought,” she said.
Michigan Law’s admissions dean, Sarah Zearfoss, surprised faculty members with news that applications were up 30%. Reading more than 8,900 applications to fill a class of around 320 enables her to look beyond top academic credentials to find those who will be happy living in Ann Arbor and strengthen the school community. “I’m holding out for the people I think will be really good fits,” Zearfoss said. “I don’t always have the luxury of holding out for that.” Law school applications often rise during recessions, such as in 2008 and 2009, or in the midst of a tough job market, as in 2021. Election years commonly arouse more law-school interest. Some cite a second “Trump bump” as applicants follow high-profile legal battles, including over immigration and diversity policies. Joshua Epstein originally intended to work for a few years before applying to law school, but he rushed his applications after President Trump took office. He witnessed what he perceives as government overreach from the administration and Elon Musk’s cuts to the federal workforce. “I’ve learned that you can protest all you want,” Epstein said, “but it’s the law that deters the government from abusing its power and protects people from losing their rights and freedoms.” A swath of law-school applicants view the legal profession as a way to make a difference and champion issues they feel strongly about. “Our applicant pool talks about doing good,” said Joshua Fershée, the dean of Creighton University School of Law in Nebraska, where applications are up 25%. Nationwide, despite the surge, total current numbers still fall below historic peaks of the early 1990s and mid-2000s, when roughly 100,000 hopefuls sought admission. The Law School Admission Council has recorded almost 63,000 applicants so far, with most decisions completed by May when institutions request deposits. A significant change to the application process also occurred this cycle, when LSAC removed an analytical reasoning section—known as logic games—from the Law School Admission Test after settling a discrimination lawsuit by blind test-takers. Some applicants thrived on the section while others feared it.
The University of Michigan Law School attracts thousands of applications. Tyla Evans had almost abandoned her law-school ambitions after struggling with the logic games section. “When I found out they were changing the test, I was ecstatic,” said Evans, a 2023 George Washington University graduate. Her LSAT score jumped 15 to 20 points on the revised test, enabling a second round of applications. So far, she has received two sizable financial-aid offers and is waiting to hear from a few more schools. Matthew Saleh, the head of admissions at Rutgers Law School in New Jersey, cautions against a repeat of 2021, when the influx of applicants led schools to enroll thousands more students. “I’m worried about the overenrollment in this year’s class and the impact that’s going to have on these students’ futures three years down the line,” Saleh said. “There are just not enough jobs out there.” Write to Sara Randazzo at sara.randazzo@wsj.com |
Date: March 16th, 2025 1:05 AM Author: average/ordinary/typical citizen/person "...and a contentious political climate are fueling interest in law school"
Lolwut
Anyways makes me proud I was one of the VERY SELECT FEW accepted by Georgetown University Law Center back in my day. |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 1:06 AM Author: AZNgirl demanding 1000% Tariff on AZNmale Embryos WHAT A BRAVE JEWISH WARRIOR OF LEGAL JUSTICE!
Joshua Epstein originally intended to work for a few years before applying to law school, but he rushed his applications after President Trump took office. He witnessed what he perceives as government overreach from the administration and Elon Musk’s cuts to the federal workforce. “I’ve learned that you can protest all you want,” Epstein said, “but it’s the law that deters the government from abusing its power and protects people from losing their rights and freedoms.” |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 1:12 AM Author: Ass Sunstein (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48751660) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 3:45 AM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πΊπΈ π΅π±) gas this kike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48751812) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 4:26 AM Author: Diamond Dallas Trump making the government smaller and less costly = "what he perceives as government overreach" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48751815) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 11:50 AM Author: barnabyjones (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48752346) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 10:13 AM Author: big fat nude butts ((zurich is stained)) Very high iq. Trump will be leaving office by the time he graduates and starts his job at an amlaw 250 firm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48752166) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 1:06 AM Author: .,,...,.,.,,....,,.,.,,.,.,.,. didn't they do away with the LSAT entirely at some point a few years ago. what even is the 'competition' now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48751645) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: AZNgirl demanding 1000% Tariff on AZNmale Embryos to placate the blindmo lobby (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48751649) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: average/ordinary/typical citizen/person String instrument ping pong (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48751650) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 2:18 PM Author: sealclubber have they not reinstated the lsat? libs have shit for brains as much as the pussies around here bemoan how good the previous generations had it, i can envision ai wiping out the decent wages attorneys of the present generation earn or perhaps knocking down the number who make decent wages |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: AZNgirl demanding 1000% Tariff on AZNmale Embryos rofl, I DUNNO THEY ARE FURKING BLIND MAYBE ITS NOT DISCRIMINATION
A significant change to the application process also occurred this cycle, when LSAC removed an analytical reasoning section—known as logic games—from the Law School Admission Test after settling a discrimination lawsuit by blind test-takers. Some applicants thrived on the section while others feared it. |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 1:08 AM Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,;:......;,;,,:.:.,:.::,, Who thrived on it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48751655) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 1:09 AM Author: AZNgirl demanding 1000% Tariff on AZNmale Embryos NOWAGS and JEETS no doubt which is why they were okay removing it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48751658) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 2:09 AM Author: tsar booba At least Tyla’s getting paid now
Tyla Evans had almost abandoned her law-school ambitions after struggling with the logic games section. “When I found out they were changing the test, I was ecstatic,” said Evans, a 2023 George Washington University graduate. Her LSAT score jumped 15 to 20 points on the revised test, enabling a second round of applications. So far, she has received two sizable financial-aid offers and is waiting to hear from a few more schools. |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 2:45 AM Author: Ass Sunstein Dat too many logic puzzles! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48751794) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 10:14 AM Author: The Buzz Aldrin Spacelaw Fellowship She'll last 18 months in BL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48752173) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 11:52 AM Author: barnabyjones "Her LSAT score jumped 15 to 20 points on the revised test"
why an approximation, is it 15 or 20? does she not remember her scores? |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 2:47 PM Author: Epistemic Humility I feel like there’s a negative implication for quality of lawyers if the change in the test caused test scores to massively jump. If only there was a logical way to write out possible inferences. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48752774) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 1:08 AM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., >Law-school deans and applicants point to several possible reasons for this year’s surge, including economic forces, a recent public spotlight on the legal system, and changes to the law-school admission test.
autistic phrasal adjective usage |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 1:09 AM Author: evan39 Sarah Zearfoss has a YouTube channel where she reads actual applications. She dings people for the dumbest reasons including typos and formatting issues on resumes. She comes across as a real bitch sometimes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48751657) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 1:13 AM Author: Ass Sunstein Link to her best work? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48751661) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 1:31 AM Author: evan39 This should give you an idea:
https://youtu.be/sEdZRqvdI-g?si=QTDFLNSTFjtaRvKL&t=243 |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 1:36 AM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., i cant tell if this is e39 flame or real, even after clicking this link (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48751712) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 1:46 AM Author: Fyre festival founder Listened to 5 minutes, god I hate this woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48751733) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 2:31 AM Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.) LJL, just put in the numbers (75% lsat, 25% gpa adjusted for stem), weed out the azns, and send out the packets. Wtf is all this shit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48751786) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 2:33 AM Author: AZNgirl demanding 1000% Tariff on AZNmale Embryos how will birdshit handsome's find wives then? u really arent thinking this thru (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48751787) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 9:12 AM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., this woman is insane. she's shitting on someone applying straight thru who has only worked 20 hours / week PT jobs. "what else has he been doing with his time?" um hes a college student. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48752028) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 10:17 AM Author: UN peacekeeper she is annoyingly nitpicky but the applicant seems ESL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48752180) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 10:26 AM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, good god, the smug arrogance (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48752196) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 10:32 AM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., not only arrogant, but reveling in the little power she has (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48752207) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 11:12 AM Author: disco fries (his own flesh as well as all space was still a cage) The Chosen on her bookshelf. A fitting title for an admissions officer like her. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48752270) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 1:12 AM Author: L.A. Deputy Fire Chief, Smoke Alarm Chirp Divison “Many hopefuls pore over online forums in which people share their credentials and admissions results, leading to detailed dissections of their odds of getting in.”
Hehe |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 1:33 AM Author: evan39 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48751704) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 7:17 AM Author: metapoaster Rach, open up registration, we're about to get tons of new poasters (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48751900) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 10:27 AM Author: cannon “It’s probably not great for anyone’s mental health,” said Andreas Saint-Rouge:
Yes, but that has nothing to do with law school admissions |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 1:42 AM Author: Metal Up Your Ass honestly didn't expect this thread to be real (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48751725) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 2:04 AM Author: tsar booba A new generation of legal scholars! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48751754) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 2:10 AM Author: neurotic comptroller Just like 2008. Welcome back economic downturn! Thanks Trump! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48751766) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 2:13 AM Author: my dog is a bigger TRUMP fan than I am (Fight! Fight! Fight!) Think of the quality of new poasting talent we’ll get this fall. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48751770) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 2:52 AM Author: ,.,.,.,....,.,..,.,.,. Many perceive law as a stable career and one more immune to AI advancements than other industries.
yeah, LLMs have little to offer when it comes to reading, summarizing or writing documents. lmao. |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 4:32 AM Author: Diamond Dallas Trump "yeah, LLMs have little to offer when it comes to reading, summarizing or writing documents. lmao."
statement is true regardless of whether it refers to AI or attorneys with LLM degrees. can be read as sarcasm or a sincere statement depending on which one. 180 |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 9:19 AM Author: .- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. . Law is a mental health profession. You aren't really being paid to draft stuff as much as you are being paid to let billionaires and millionaires sleep at night and hand hold them through shit they barely understand. You are being paid to be half shrink half author. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48752041) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 9:03 AM Author: scholarship Because law is 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48752011) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 9:22 AM Author: UN peacekeeper A swath of law-school applicants view the legal profession as a way to make a difference and champion issues they feel strongly about.
“Our applicant pool talks about doing good,” said Joshua Fershée, the dean of Creighton University School of Law in Nebraska, where applications are up 25%. |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 10:05 AM Author: Smoker It’s funny that the competitiveness of law school is a great measure of economic health (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48752143) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 10:08 AM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, "Georgetown University Law Center alone received 14,000 applications to fill 650 spots, "
Georgetown University Law Factory.
650 slots for 1Ls, 1,000 slots for 2L transfers. |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 10:25 AM Author: Diane Rehm talking dirty (πΏοΈ ) So pleased to see Andy Cornblatt still pumping away at his sinecure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48752191) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 10:27 AM Author: disco fries (his own flesh as well as all space was still a cage) I just hope all of these kids already have jobs lined up and know exactly what they’re getting into. I have no sympathy for some little shit who knows nothing about a legal career and is the first in his family to go to law school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48752199) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 10:31 AM Author: disco fries (his own flesh as well as all space was still a cage) It’s stupid for LSAC to dumb down the LSAT. As for gatekeeping into the profession everyone knows it’s LS admissions that keep riff raff out—not the bar exam (which is a watered down joke now as well). If law schools make it so easy to get in that the students then can’t pass the watered down bar, the schools will serve no purpose, and then the bar exam gets open to everyone and everything goes to pot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48752203) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 11:53 AM Author: .,..,.,,.,..,,,.,.,.,..,..,..,.,..,,.,.,.,. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48752352) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 11:08 AM Author: Die Hard 2: Die Harder These admissions directors have been in charge of these programs for decades. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48752266) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 11:45 AM Author: rogue planet orbiting the SOL "Many perceive law as a stable career and one more immune to AI advancements than other industries."
I've got some bad news for u guys |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 11:56 AM Author: Smoker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48752358) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 2:03 PM Author: SkaddenArse is the modern lsat easier or harder than back in the day? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48752647) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 2:15 PM Author: Fucking Fuckface Depends on what you're good at. I'd get 176 or better on the modern test. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48752676) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 2:14 PM Author: Fucking Fuckface Not sure if still true, but the schools that trade spots in the rank 8 to 11 band tend to have good scholarships. Would take the money and run away from the H-bombs of the world. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48752673) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 2:44 PM Author: Epistemic Humility This breaks my heart (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48752766) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 2:46 PM Author: Dr? Michael Greger (π§) it's profoundly 180 how for the last couple cycles law school apps have always been an indicator of recession. really says a lot about the type of people who become lawyers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694855&forum_id=2Elisa#48752770) |