Stuff like EBT is pretty non-partisan and while it could use some scrutiny for abuse cases the majority of them are probably legitimate and provide aid (that also counts as corporate welfare)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387228)

Cons are right to gripe about incidences of abuse but as a whole it's not a drag on the general economy although things could be said about "skew" in prices and product preference leading to more long term issues (that investors don't care about, as they're more often than not only considering "trend")

I've never stepped foot in a welfare office myself but isn't it kind of hard to get anyway? I'm surprised the numbers are as high as they are

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387237)

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387255)

this is the problem with hyper partisan political discourse. most GOP voters arent the "if the government does anything it's socialism" type and want some form of safety net. just like most dems aren't blue haired commies who want endless gibes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387268)

The but the real fact is "middle class cons" are irrelevant in the future of the party. Poasters are unironically the new ruling class and just look anywhere on the Internet to see their real feelings about DEM PROGRAMZ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387293)

go outside and talk to people rather than thinking internet hot takes represent anything

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387299)

You're just a sensible moderate in denial that Trumpmos spent the last 10 years intentionally exterminating/converting Romneyites and the like. It would be like a liberal saying most libs "aren't really like redditors." It doesn't matter because they're the ones you voted for and who controls the discourse. Stephen Miller types are heroes to most modern cons, not an extreme guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387320)

yes, you're right that the gop only begrudgingly tolerate things like SNAP. because the gop is about helping people by creating *THE CONDITIONS* for them to secure their welfare. so while the dems want to wave in illegals and use gibes to keep poors on basic sustenance to prevent riots while the corporatists profit, we want to create the conditions where the working class can thrive without gibes.

you're right that some put the cart before the horse. but you're mistaking the reasons why we hate subsidies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387341)

Trump voters are not all racist hicks and creepy tech billionaires. That movement had the best and the worst of right wing ideologues and genuinely brought about a shift in the way conservatives look at a variety of issues

All of that "grand conservative vision" stuff, despite often being more eloquent and quickening of the blood than their leftist and centrist counterparts, came from the paleocon camp---and many of the thinkers in that camp have been driven to the wayside over concerns that sneering leftists have decried as "parochial" or "too backwards to engage with". The real thought leaders on the right all get memory holed or sent into the sticks of history due to facets of the system that Trump was elected to shift

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387371)

"Brilyn Hollyhand" ljl and the "Young Guns" part 2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387391)

just because the leaders and talking heads are batshit doesn't mean the people voting for them are. that just means that the electorate isn't represented well. instead of waiting for someone else to take the reins you could work to get people like you represented better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387425)

anyway i guess we were talking past eachother about what each side believes: i was talking about the electorate and you were talking anout public rhetoric. however i dont think most of those people “believe” much, they will adjust their positions to capture votes or be voted out.

things are kooky now but history is full of kooky periods. maybe cooler heads will prevail. or maybe they won't. i was just saying that not everyone who votes gop is a “fuck the poor end all assistance” reptile.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387504)

FDR's great society (close to a von Bismarck "relook" at the fallout of Industrialism and asking difficult questions in a non-partisan fashion about how to remedy the "warp" caused by model changes) was mostly cr and still largely supported today even if there were individual misteps within the process. LBJ's partisan chessboard population cudgel shit + naked vote buying was ass cancer for the country and we're still suffering bigly from what that Christadelphian huckster did to America in the WH bathroom urinal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387326)

here's another one. when I call you champ, I'm being sarcastic. Yeah, that's right. You've been a joke all this time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387275)

You can get any of the season 6 ep4 skins (https://fortnite.gg/most-used-skins?list=food) with your average SNAP allotment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387291)