Date: April 3rd, 2025 11:31 PM
Author: internet g0y
I was thinking about this today.
People tend to picture the 1950s without understanding the full context of what life was like.
For example, in a discussion on why Zoomers don’t want to work hard and spend too much time on their phones, you will see responses like, “Well how are the incentives different than today.”
Not realizing that the incentives in the 1950s for many people were still that they had literally nothing else to do. Virtually no recreational activities.
They didn’t face a choice between dozens of different supernormal stimuli on demand (porn, games, social media, TV, fast food, etc.) and waking up to go to work. Work was the most stimulating and emotionally rewarding option. Not because it carried huge incentives relative to today, but because it was simply one of the few things to do with your time.
Even people who lived in the 80s and 90s will remember this. We left the house and went outside because we were bored. Zoomers don’t even necessarily experience boredom at home anymore. They pine to return home - because home is where the most stimulating and emotionally rewarding activities are.
You don’t get 1950s behavior or culture without taking away a lot of the people’s toys and games and vices.
There are lots of things like this when comparing the 1950s with now. For example, you probably couldn’t be a NEET because your dad would hit you and force you to leave. They would not debate you and beg you “please get a job.”
If you worked in a blue collar trade you might even get hit! Many accounts and much lore of fistfights on the job in the trades of that period.
Vagrancy was a crime. There’s an incentive for working: to stay out of jail.
Fact is that a lot of people will choose not to work if you let them. Remember the Pareto principle: 80% of any given productive output is driven by the 20%. You can expect the remaining 80% of the population to be somewhere on a spectrum of really lazy to average.
This bottom 80% doesn’t get incentivized just by the carrot. They need the carrot and the stick. Society provides little in the way of the stick, today, while also giving out a lot of free carrots.
https://x.com/datepsych/status/1907844592080416961
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704857&forum_id=2Elisa#48813335)