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When AI-created evidence becomes indistinguishable - cops, lawyers, courts?
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Date: October 9th, 2025 2:12 PM Author: cell phones Presuming it is not too long until an AI created video showing a defendant or respondent in a different place, not committing a tort or crime, becomes impossible to distinguish from real video... or vice versa.
Police finding probable cause, courts determining causes of action, jurors deciding beyond a reasonable doubt, etc. - all of that becomes a bit more complicated
"Hey Grok make a Ring Doorbell video of me coming home at 10PM and craft it and timestamp exactly as if it had been recorded on October 1, 2025. Delete any meta-data, etc, that would permit anyone to distinguish this from this actual Oct 1 video I am uploading" |
Date: October 9th, 2025 2:13 PM Author: *star trek enterprise theme song growing louder tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784729&forum_id=2Elisa#49337208) |
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Date: October 9th, 2025 2:15 PM Author: screenman that's why for our own safety we're going to need security cameras everywhere - end game everything you see captured for replay, data mining, blackmail, and optimization. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784729&forum_id=2Elisa#49337220) |
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Date: October 9th, 2025 2:16 PM Author: *star trek enterprise theme song growing louder tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784729&forum_id=2Elisa#49337222) |
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Date: October 9th, 2025 2:18 PM Author: cell phones in a gay way lawyering and court-ops are, at heart, a "truth finding business". Once AI can simulate truth beyond the threshold of human noticing, The Law is fucked.
everyone is talking about "oh AI will impact lawyers by replacing their ability to read and write documents", but no one seems to be talking about "AI will simply dissolve the foundation of Law, i.e. verifiable truth" |
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Date: October 9th, 2025 2:18 PM Author: *star trek enterprise theme song growing louder tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784729&forum_id=2Elisa#49337233) |
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Date: October 9th, 2025 2:19 PM Author: ihaveautism420 they will lock down the frontier models from being able to create this kind of stuff and they will also instruct the models to put "watermarks" in outputs that can be verified if you have a matching cryptographic key that the frontier labs will have
compute is expensive and videos take a lot of compute to create. legit rich people will have their own bespoke local architectures built without any of these guardrails. it will be a luxury item kind of like buying expensive lawyers or chefs or armed security guards |
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Date: October 9th, 2025 2:20 PM Author: *star trek enterprise theme song growing louder tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784729&forum_id=2Elisa#49337240) |
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Date: October 9th, 2025 2:20 PM Author: cell phones in the end, everyone got cars and cell phones
too profitable to resist distributing it to proles, even if rich people dont like this.
just takes one henry ford or someone to be like fuck it, if I find a way to sell this to proles Ill be king of the rich |
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Date: October 9th, 2025 2:23 PM Author: screenman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784729&forum_id=2Elisa#49337249) |
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Date: October 9th, 2025 2:24 PM Author: ihaveautism420 yeah they would have to regulate and restrict GPUs to really stop regular people from having their own jailbroken AIs. which some people want to do, but i don't think that will ever happen. there's just too much money involved. but you never know (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784729&forum_id=2Elisa#49337252) |
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Date: October 9th, 2025 2:35 PM Author: screenman Anthropic are pushing hard on this in Washington - they don't want you having access to your local AI. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784729&forum_id=2Elisa#49337264) |
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Date: October 9th, 2025 2:27 PM Author: cell phones counter point is that by now we 100% should be able to upload pics of our femael colleagues and get porn videos, and somehow we do not yet have this
if this occurs, an interesting twist would be a radical jerk-back from posting pics online. foids militantly policing that no pictures of them appear anywhere and litigating it. a kind of islamic move to full burkas, women going full-private-mode about protecting their image |
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Date: October 9th, 2025 2:30 PM Author: ihaveautism420 you can actually do this already but it takes a relatively expensive home setup (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784729&forum_id=2Elisa#49337257) |
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Date: October 9th, 2025 2:30 PM Author: Paralegal Poaster "Hey Ring this video doesn't have any metadata, is it real?" Ring: "No."
Doesn't seem too hard in most cases. Even an iPhone video will have data from the carrier to establish if it is real or not.
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