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Kevin Smith's last 8 films have lost money

Not since a 2010 buddy cop film starring Bruce Willis and Tr...
suddenly HATP isn't korean tp
  12/26/24
isn't he jewish
H-1Belon Musk
  12/26/24
new Jay & Silent Bob slapped shitlib
god wanted it this way
  12/26/24
It lost at least 5 million dollars on production alone, not ...
suddenly HATP isn't korean tp
  12/26/24
counterpoint: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHvaWulHk5E
god wanted it this way
  12/26/24
It looks OK but still kind of stale and rehashed. There's so...
suddenly HATP isn't korean tp
  12/26/24
I’m gay
luis navidad
  12/26/24
sorry it doesn't match up to the paragons of modern cinema y...
god wanted it this way
  12/26/24
It was a commercial failure.
suddenly HATP isn't korean tp
  12/26/24
(MCU masterman)
god wanted it this way
  12/26/24
I am almost positive that Smith knows exactly how much money...
suddenly HATP isn't korean tp
  12/26/24
everybody in hollywood does this that's literally the mov...
god wanted it this way
  12/26/24
No everyone in Hollywood makes stuff like Cop Out (2010) whi...
suddenly HATP isn't korean tp
  12/26/24
sorry he doesn't launder enough money for the CCP to be inte...
god wanted it this way
  12/26/24
(Harley Quinn Smith)
suddenly HATP isn't korean tp
  12/26/24
(Captain America)
god wanted it this way
  12/26/24
Wanna fuck?
suddenly HATP isn't korean tp
  12/26/24
can u host
god wanted it this way
  12/26/24
I am limited to what the box tells me I can do per our cuck ...
suddenly HATP isn't korean tp
  12/26/24
He was good in Die Hard 4 and that made money
,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,,..,.,.
  12/26/24
I'm talking director only
suddenly HATP isn't korean tp
  12/26/24
Have you thought about if actors, even bit actors, are also ...
,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,,..,.,.
  12/26/24
No
suddenly HATP isn't korean tp
  12/26/24
No you haven't thought about it, or no that actors don't des...
,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,,..,.,.
  12/26/24
Actors aren't directors because if the director doesn't like...
suddenly HATP isn't korean tp
  12/26/24
I mean, the actor could also yell at people and tell them to...
,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,,..,.,.
  12/26/24
Actors get in spats with people on set all the time. They're...
suddenly HATP isn't korean tp
  12/26/24
But contracts require a meeting of the mind. If enforceabil...
,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,,..,.,.
  12/26/24
I feel like I'm talking to Matthew McConaughey. Hook em \m/
suddenly HATP isn't korean tp
  12/26/24
Hook 'em!! Beat ASU, but also hopefully somebody kills Georg...
,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,,..,.,.
  12/26/24
...
suddenly HATP isn't korean tp
  12/26/24
I like where you’re going with this, HAtp
murine (ratlike) facial features
  12/26/24
What happens sometimes with really famous, successful artist...
suddenly HATP isn't korean tp
  12/26/24
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murine (ratlike) facial features
  12/26/24
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nu metal turntablist
  12/26/24
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Dickey Simpkins
  12/26/24
tp
2025 is already over
  12/26/24
Typical Gen Xer
cowgod
  12/26/24
sounds like we can count on another 20 years of kevin smith ...
to the discussion boards
  12/26/24
They’re making money they just show a loss through &ld...
"'''''"'''"""''''"
  12/26/24
Cr. There's probably a clause that after the first run he ow...
suddenly HATP isn't korean tp
  12/26/24
Seems like the streaming revenue would be totally invisible ...
cowgod
  12/26/24
not familiar with how he funds... but he has a giant low ...
peeface
  12/26/24
Has to be.
suddenly HATP isn't korean tp
  12/26/24
He should try writing with a different voice.
chilmata
  12/26/24
A few things here: 1. His movies aren't that expensive. ...
........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,,
  12/26/24
True but under 1000 people saw Yoga Hosers let's be real
suddenly HATP isn't korean tp
  12/26/24
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nigger beast
  12/26/24


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Date: December 26th, 2024 12:21 AM
Author: suddenly HATP isn't korean tp

Not since a 2010 buddy cop film starring Bruce Willis and Tracey Morgan which he did not write has he been in the black.

How can a guy go 14 years and 8 films and not make money once? How is that possible? Most of his early films made money or broke even. But how can you survive for 14 years and not make a dime? Is the secret having investors, paying yourself up front, and losing other people's money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48486925)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 12:28 AM
Author: H-1Belon Musk

isn't he jewish

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48486927)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 12:29 AM
Author: god wanted it this way

new Jay & Silent Bob slapped shitlib

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48486930)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 12:37 AM
Author: suddenly HATP isn't korean tp

It lost at least 5 million dollars on production alone, not including the marketing budget. It was a commercial disaster.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48486953)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 12:38 AM
Author: god wanted it this way

counterpoint: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHvaWulHk5E

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48486954)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 12:45 AM
Author: suddenly HATP isn't korean tp

It looks OK but still kind of stale and rehashed. There's something about middle aged dudes running around acting like they're 20 that just isn't as cool as when they did it when they were 20.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48486965)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 1:27 AM
Author: luis navidad (luis)

I’m gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48486985)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 1:50 AM
Author: god wanted it this way

sorry it doesn't match up to the paragons of modern cinema you're into

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48486994)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 2:01 AM
Author: suddenly HATP isn't korean tp

It was a commercial failure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487011)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 2:10 AM
Author: god wanted it this way

(MCU masterman)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487024)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 2:27 AM
Author: suddenly HATP isn't korean tp

I am almost positive that Smith knows exactly how much money it's going to cost, knows exactly how much he is going to make which includes all these innovative revenue streams like touring the film, and figures out ahead of time exactly what he can get away with for the money. Someone is holding the bag and it's not him. And he gets to make the movie how he wants to make it and even if people hate it he's still in the black somehow by the end.

The first movie he made that was a commercial and critical failure was Jersey Girl and he basically said at the time that he made it for himself and no one else. If you're a big fan of his work you probably think he's a genius, but if you're a normal person you have to wonder why he wastes a lot of time and money on things that only 5 people care about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487027)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 2:30 AM
Author: god wanted it this way

everybody in hollywood does this

that's literally the movie business

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487032)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 2:30 AM
Author: suddenly HATP isn't korean tp

No everyone in Hollywood makes stuff like Cop Out (2010) which he probably made the bulk of his career earnings on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487033)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 2:32 AM
Author: god wanted it this way

sorry he doesn't launder enough money for the CCP to be interesting to you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487035)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 2:32 AM
Author: suddenly HATP isn't korean tp

(Harley Quinn Smith)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487036)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 2:33 AM
Author: god wanted it this way

(Captain America)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487037)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 2:34 AM
Author: suddenly HATP isn't korean tp

Wanna fuck?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487038)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 2:34 AM
Author: god wanted it this way

can u host

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487039)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 2:35 AM
Author: suddenly HATP isn't korean tp

I am limited to what the box tells me I can do per our cuck agreement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487041)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 12:43 AM
Author: ,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,,..,.,. ( )


He was good in Die Hard 4 and that made money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48486961)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 12:44 AM
Author: suddenly HATP isn't korean tp

I'm talking director only

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48486963)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 1:03 AM
Author: ,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,,..,.,. ( )


Have you thought about if actors, even bit actors, are also worthy of a partial director credit? They direct their own action and it's really more of a collaboration. Having one named "director" is more of a legal formalism than an accurate description of what's happening here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48486972)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 1:44 AM
Author: suddenly HATP isn't korean tp

No

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48486989)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 1:51 AM
Author: ,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,,..,.,. ( )


No you haven't thought about it, or no that actors don't deserve a directors credit? Two totally different scenarios although I'd argue your logic is flawed either way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48486997)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 2:00 AM
Author: suddenly HATP isn't korean tp

Actors aren't directors because if the director doesn't like how they're acting they can say stop do it again but differently this time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487010)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 2:01 AM
Author: ,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,,..,.,. ( )


I mean, the actor could also yell at people and tell them to stop. Who's going to stop them? You? The cops? The fat cats in Washington?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487012)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 2:03 AM
Author: suddenly HATP isn't korean tp

Actors get in spats with people on set all the time. They're notoriously hot headed. But ultimately, they sign a Contract.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487014)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 2:09 AM
Author: ,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,,..,.,. ( )


But contracts require a meeting of the mind. If enforceability requires the meeting of the mind with the actor and the director, then the director is an actor and the actor is a director. It's all one beautiful tapestry, just like Die Hard 4. Think about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487020)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 2:28 AM
Author: suddenly HATP isn't korean tp

I feel like I'm talking to Matthew McConaughey. Hook em \m/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487029)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 11:09 AM
Author: ,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,,..,.,. ( )


Hook 'em!! Beat ASU, but also hopefully somebody kills Georgia for us so go Notre Dame!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487727)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 11:19 AM
Author: suddenly HATP isn't korean tp



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487751)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 12:49 AM
Author: murine (ratlike) facial features ((zurich is stained))

I like where you’re going with this, HAtp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48486967)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 12:58 AM
Author: suddenly HATP isn't korean tp

What happens sometimes with really famous, successful artists is they're develop a cult of personality. I mean just look at how people like Jeff and MacKenzie Bezos give people like Van Jones and the Obamas life altering money as a gift. There's gotta be tons of Gen X fags whose minds got blown through the roof the first time they listened to Primus or saw Mallrats and just went this is gonna be my shit for the rest of my life.

So you're vegan Kevin Smith. You haven't 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺 had a big hit, if we're being honest, since 2001 or so. You want to put your mid dotter in some vehicle to get her on the big screen. You have been in pictures long enough to know there aren't 4000 theatres willing to screen this turd. You're going to do like zero marketing. You just have to pay yourself and the actors and then you go on the road and do a Q&A and the 50 biggest Kevin Smith heads in every town in America are going to pay 100 bucks to come see you.

But wait, how do you finance this crap? You have to go through your phone and ring up some Gen Xers. You have to find the people who aced OCI. And then you pitch them, like a bitch. You get down on your hands and knees and say, remember me? I'm Kevin FUCKING Smith. I made Chasing Amy. Clerks, that was a good one. Remember how good you felt when they were playing roller hockey on top of that gas station in New Jersey? I'm the guy who did that. Now sign here and here that's a check made out to BongJesus productions for 750,000k and you own 5% of this turd and after we gross 25,000 dollars your share is $1250 plus whatever it makes on streaming and on demand. Thank you, and have a nice day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48486970)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 1:04 AM
Author: murine (ratlike) facial features ((zurich is stained))



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48486973)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 11:38 AM
Author: nu metal turntablist



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487831)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 1:02 PM
Author: Dickey Simpkins



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48488317)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 3:51 AM
Author: 2025 is already over

tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487129)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 11:13 AM
Author: cowgod

Typical Gen Xer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487732)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 11:13 AM
Author: to the discussion boards

sounds like we can count on another 20 years of kevin smith movies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487735)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 11:17 AM
Author: "'''''"'''"""''''"

They’re making money they just show a loss through “Hollywood accounting”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487747)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 11:21 AM
Author: suddenly HATP isn't korean tp

Cr. There's probably a clause that after the first run he owns everything and then he goes on tour and sells tickets and keeps all of that money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487758)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 11:25 AM
Author: cowgod

Seems like the streaming revenue would be totally invisible to us

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487775)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 11:39 AM
Author: peeface

not familiar with how he funds...

but he has a giant low iq neckbeard redditor cult.

does he crowdsource a bunch of it from people who don't care if they lose money because they're part of helping kevin smith create his art?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487834)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 12:06 PM
Author: suddenly HATP isn't korean tp

Has to be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487964)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 12:13 PM
Author: chilmata

He should try writing with a different voice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48487989)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 12:50 PM
Author: ........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,,


A few things here:

1. His movies aren't that expensive. So he has to raise like $5 mm. Think of how CSLG and his dumb sushi restauarnt. How many people are there in that same income bracket who would love to give $1 mm to say they're producing a Kevin Smith movie.

2. He can pre-sell a lot of this shit to streamers. Apple TV pays $15 mm per episode for episodes of the morning show. Disney spent $20 mm on each episode of the Acolyte. Not unreasonable for them to spend a couple of million bucks and say "Hey we have the exclusive for Clerks III!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48488266)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 12:53 PM
Author: suddenly HATP isn't korean tp

True but under 1000 people saw Yoga Hosers let's be real

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48488279)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 12:53 PM
Author: nigger beast



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654425&forum_id=2Elisa#48488281)