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Why is GRAND SEIKO such a divisive brand to watchmos?

Half the people claim that GS's horological advancements blo...
insanely creepy razzmatazz church boistinker
  10/20/25
I think they are divisive for more reasons than just the spr...
dupa
  12/02/25
You don’t need a loupe to enjoy the dial!
The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT
  12/02/25
some are really nice. A friend recently got the green bamboo...
dupa
  12/02/25
GMTs are Soo CR
The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT
  12/02/25
i like some from an aesthetic perspective when the GMT hand ...
dupa
  12/02/25
You could use the second time zone feature to know when nyuu...
The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT
  12/02/25
I don’t think any serious watchmos have a negative opi...
The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT
  12/02/25
It's Japanese and doesn't have the lay prestige of the Europ...
Anne Frank sporting a full xmas bush
  12/02/25
i might have copped one but for me that gothic font destroys...
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
  12/02/25
Agreed. It always gave GS a try hard look to me, though I ad...
Megathor lives!
  12/02/25
it really is exceptionally nice in person even more so than ...
dupa
  12/02/25
BAC envy by TPD swisscucks
Judas Jones
  12/02/25
Swisscucks MAF about DAT JAPBULL accuracy and DAT ZARATSU
The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT
  12/02/25
...
dupa
  12/02/25
I have three of them - SBGA211, SBGA429, SBGY007. The 007 ge...
.- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .
  12/02/25
Why would you keep like *THE* most common GS in the safe? Th...
The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT
  12/02/25
I don’t really like white dial watches so it doesn&rsq...
.- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .
  12/02/25
dat snowflake. gorgeous design. https://grandseikoboutiqu...
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
  12/02/25
The power reserve meter is a deal breaker for me.
dupa
  12/02/25
Personally I like it
The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT
  12/02/25
Aesthetically or for utility?
dupa
  12/02/25
Both
The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT
  12/02/25
I'm not a watchmo but I like their designs
.,.,.,....,.,..,.,.,.,
  12/02/25
Honestly I only like JLCs more. I legitimately don’t l...
.- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .
  12/02/25
Repulsive sales practices = they won’t sell you one?
The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT
  12/02/25
They won’t sell anyone one. They all go to gray market...
.- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .
  12/02/25
They WILL sell you just may need to wait a few years since t...
The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT
  12/02/25
I want a jlc master calendar very badly.
dupa
  12/02/25
Have a Master World Geographic (LE 500 pieces) from years ag...
The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT
  12/02/25
I like your blue mut moon very much. I’ve never liked ...
dupa
  12/02/25
I have the silver dial moon not blue. The blue moonphase is ...
The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT
  12/02/25
My b. Can I borrow it? I promise to eventually give it back.
dupa
  12/02/25
OFS
The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT
  12/02/25
<3
dupa
  12/02/25
Spring drive is really cool imo but I dont like their look....
christmas time
  12/02/25
I like all their models except not sure about their sports w...
..;;.;;;;.;;..;.;;;;.;;..;;,;;,....
  12/02/25
they do get a little nuts with the limited editions.
The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT
  12/02/25
What size case do you prefer? I like something less than ...
..;;.;;;;.;;..;.;;;;.;;..;;,;;,....
  12/02/25
I think 39-42 is best for me. I have some smaller vintage wa...
The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT
  12/02/25
non-seq: what do you think of this https://youtu.be/_jz9qoH...
..;;.;;;;.;;..;.;;;;.;;..;;,;;,....
  12/02/25
I thought the new release Ingenieur was a great looking watc...
The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT
  12/02/25
I have the SBGH 345 and get compliments on its appearance fr...
Goy Interrupted
  12/02/25
89723098732
The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT
  12/02/25
Love it. Been looking at the SBGH319 lately. Would really li...
dupa
  12/03/25


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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:50 PM
Author: insanely creepy razzmatazz church boistinker

Half the people claim that GS's horological advancements blow Rolex away

The other half argue that it's a glorified quartz watch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49362832)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 1:39 PM
Author: dupa

I think they are divisive for more reasons than just the spring drive and quartz focus.

1. They are japanese and not swiss.

2. Some people look down on non-mechanical movements. I think this is silly and it's mostly guys who like to feel like they have an expertise in something. The spring drive is a cool and satisfying innovation. If I were to buy a GS, I think I'd prefer it to be a spring drive movement because that's what sets them apart from other watch brands even if they produce other high quality movements.

3. Their designs are boring. The unique feature of GS is their meticulous finishing and details on the dials. To me, most of them look the same just with differences in color/texture on the dials. I'm probably not going to spend a lot of time looking at the watch with a magnifying glass, so I'd be paying a premium for something I won't really get to enjoy.

4. Branding. It's a luxury priced item that shares a name with a budget brand. No one outside of watch nerds will be impressed with your $8,000 GS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49477560)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 1:41 PM
Author: The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT

You don’t need a loupe to enjoy the dial!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49477569)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 1:43 PM
Author: dupa

some are really nice. A friend recently got the green bamboo heritage gmt. It's gorgeous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49477582)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 1:56 PM
Author: The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT

GMTs are Soo CR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49477630)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: dupa

i like some from an aesthetic perspective when the GMT hand serves as an extra pop of color. Since I have no real use for a GMT function, sometimes the extra hand just seems to clutter the dial.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49477854)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 3:07 PM
Author: The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT

You could use the second time zone feature to know when nyuug is about to enter a manic phase and leave xo in advance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49477860)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 1:40 PM
Author: The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT

I don’t think any serious watchmos have a negative opinion of GS. Not all of them are even springdrive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49477564)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 1:58 PM
Author: Anne Frank sporting a full xmas bush

It's Japanese and doesn't have the lay prestige of the European brands. Most people who are into watches though will respect the brand. It's also really lame to spend $5k+ on a watch that to 95% of the population you will need to explain that it's different from a $100 Seiko.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49477637)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 2:16 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


i might have copped one but for me that gothic font destroys the japanese aesthetic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49477688)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 2:22 PM
Author: Megathor lives!

Agreed. It always gave GS a try hard look to me, though I admit I've been eyeing up the green gmt mentioned up thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49477709)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 3:08 PM
Author: dupa

it really is exceptionally nice in person even more so than in photographs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49477868)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: Judas Jones

BAC envy by TPD swisscucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49477777)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 8:09 PM
Author: The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT

Swisscucks MAF about DAT JAPBULL accuracy and DAT ZARATSU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478600)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 8:46 PM
Author: dupa



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478712)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 8:15 PM
Author: .- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .

I have three of them - SBGA211, SBGA429, SBGY007. The 007 gets the most wear. The 429 is my beater of beaters worn to Walmart. The 211 is a safe queen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478614)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 8:16 PM
Author: The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT

Why would you keep like *THE* most common GS in the safe? They're everywhere, not going to appreciate (lol at using watches as investments) and it can be easily replaced if lost/stolen. I have SBGA407 and SBGA443. I always pack one or both when I go to Japan but they don't get as much wear as they should.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478618)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 8:38 PM
Author: .- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .

I don’t really like white dial watches so it doesn’t get a lot of wear.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478681)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 8:24 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


dat snowflake. gorgeous design.

https://grandseikoboutique.us/products/watch-spring-drive-snowflake-sbga211?srsltid=AfmBOoqDXuEwFt-uBx1n05EVTBAsFqa1jrMLvHvA6qapxU5iAsjOtgOs

now imagine it with a font that suits the japanese aesthetic.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478653)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: dupa

The power reserve meter is a deal breaker for me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478716)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 8:52 PM
Author: The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT

Personally I like it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478725)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:18 PM
Author: dupa

Aesthetically or for utility?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478788)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT

Both

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478798)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 8:16 PM
Author: .,.,.,....,.,..,.,.,.,

I'm not a watchmo but I like their designs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478621)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: .- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .

Honestly I only like JLCs more. I legitimately don’t like Pateks and Rolexes. I can’t wear VCs because as a Jew I will not wear a Maltese cross and the only AP I like is the 36mm ceramic Royal Oak. I LOVE Journes but they have repulsive sales practices so like Jay Leno will never buy a Ferrari I refuse to look at any Journe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478718)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 8:53 PM
Author: The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT

Repulsive sales practices = they won’t sell you one?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478727)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 8:56 PM
Author: .- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .

They won’t sell anyone one. They all go to gray market dealers for insane premiums. The 1916Company is sitting on a couple hundred of the things. If you want to pay ostensible retail first you need to blow $500k on the ugly models nobody wants or go to Tim and pay 2x over retail.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478732)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 8:58 PM
Author: The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT

They WILL sell you just may need to wait a few years since they have super limited production and pieces are already spoken for. I had a nice chat w a girl at the Geneva boutique she said just put name down, be patient and you’ll get the piece you want. Met a guy with a chronometre a resonance this summer at Les Caves he couldn’t believe someone recognized how dope his watch was.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478739)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:02 PM
Author: dupa

I want a jlc master calendar very badly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478749)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:06 PM
Author: The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT

Have a Master World Geographic (LE 500 pieces) from years ago and a MUT Moon. Very CR watches. Kind of considering a Reverso. Thoughts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478758)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: dupa

I like your blue mut moon very much. I’ve never liked the reverso. Sounds like an old timey Superman villain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478767)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:11 PM
Author: The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT

I have the silver dial moon not blue. The blue moonphase is an Arnold & Son

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478771)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:17 PM
Author: dupa

My b. Can I borrow it? I promise to eventually give it back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478785)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT

OFS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478797)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:34 PM
Author: dupa

<3

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478828)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 8:58 PM
Author: christmas time

Spring drive is really cool imo but I dont like their look.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478741)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:23 PM
Author: ..;;.;;;;.;;..;.;;;;.;;..;;,;;,....


I like all their models except not sure about their sports watches.

They also probably do too many dial variations with ex post rationalized names like the purple frost that forms on the banks of Lake Oouri in the Mid-Late-Earl Winter microseason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478793)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT

they do get a little nuts with the limited editions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478799)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: ..;;.;;;;.;;..;.;;;;.;;..;;,;;,....


What size case do you prefer?

I like something less than 40mm and I thought the SBGA and SLGA (evolution 9) were just a bit too angular and clunky for me at 40mm given they are so elegant otherwise.

But then they released the SLGB003 and a new purple one which I think is 37mm but seems a bit dainty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478815)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT

I think 39-42 is best for me. I have some smaller vintage watches and a DJ36 but they don't get much wear.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478819)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:33 PM
Author: ..;;.;;;;.;;..;.;;;;.;;..;;,;;,....


non-seq: what do you think of this https://youtu.be/_jz9qoHsY8c?t=40

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478824)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:34 PM
Author: The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT

I thought the new release Ingenieur was a great looking watch but the price was bonkers for what it was. Would love it with a serious discount.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478829)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:53 PM
Author: Goy Interrupted

I have the SBGH 345 and get compliments on its appearance from normies. The occasional watchmo who recognizes it always seems absolutely delighted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478875)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:56 PM
Author: The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT

89723098732

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49478880)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: dupa

Love it. Been looking at the SBGH319 lately. Would really like one but doubt I’ll ever pull the trigger.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788176&forum_id=2Elisa#49479377)