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Why do the rich hate proles so much? Even Louis XVI didn't hate poor people...
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Date: April 25th, 2025 3:23 PM Author: Talmudic Skies So you have wealthy layabout idle rich many of whom did nothing personally to earn it. Why do they hate the people who have to go to work every day in order to prop up their wealth accumulation? Why are they so disgusted by proles and want them to perish and never thrive? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880386) |
Date: April 25th, 2025 3:29 PM Author: cock of michael obama jews hatred of goyim = jacob vs esau (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880402) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 3:36 PM Author: Talmudic Skies (Guy who conveniently has never once referenced the New Testament) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880424) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 3:43 PM Author: cock of michael obama i did a whole review on the book of matthew awhile back (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880451) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 3:39 PM Author: Oh, you travel? ( ) The difference in phenotype and class behavior today between the rich and the prole is stark and vast. There are so many signals and indicators of proledom now - obesity, tattoos, Family Dollar, etc.
I don’t think it is “hate” so much as just not wanting to be around that kind of low grade atmosphere, and who can really blame them. |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 3:42 PM Author: Talmudic Skies I think there's something to this. I also think that proles are a distant mirror to the elite's true nature. As if David Brooks wasn't One Wrong Move the entire time from being the type of guy to crush McDonald's and never know the joys of Italian sandwiches with unpronouncable ingredients. If he hadn't gotten into Chicago, none of this would have happened. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880443) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 3:54 PM Author: internet g0y No that's backwards, and its the reason for the divide. Brooks knows that he would have made it somewhere, some place. He has a large head, studious and brainy and calculating phenotype. There is no world in which Brooks is one wrong moving his way to digging ditches and slamming mcdonalds. He was destined to figure things out.
elites understand this generally. they understand that there but for the grace of God go I is not true. this explains their distaste for proles, who, left to their own devices, are destined in the other direction. |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:03 PM Author: internet poaster with a praise kink Correct (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880544) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:10 PM Author: Talmudic Skies I completely disagree. This may be how they view themselves but it couldn't be further from the truth. Before the advent of money letter go up, aristocrats failed all the time. Businesses went under. Nobility ran aground. It wasn't until the diversification of stonks that you could park your money indefinitely 100% worry free.
A thousand years ago there were over 10,000 nobles in England. Today less than a hundred. Most of them failed. Also parliament had to enact a law exempting the royal family from normal inheritance tax so they wouldn't go broke in two generations.
The idea that the idle rich are better than proles is insane. Even if there's one genius in your bloodline most of the other relatives would be proles without substantial windfall themselves. The permanent aristocracy is due to the financial chicanery of the globalist order, not superior genes or behavior. The CSLG types who rise to the top from nothing are EXTREMELY rare. Now you have Bill Gates dotter playing pretend angel investor but if her dad was Joe Blow she'd be working at Dairy Queen. |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:16 PM Author: internet poaster with a praise kink We are talking about how people view and classify themselves and others and why, not your own personal subjective (rationalized and self-serving) opinion on what constitutes worth in human beings
Really this whole post is just consuela-tier total disconnection from reality. You do not understand this topic at all |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:26 PM Author: Talmudic Skies You mean to tell me that layabouts who inherit a ton of money feel like they deserve it while others don't? Now that's crazy! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880597) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:57 PM Author: internet poaster with a praise kink Not just that they Deserve the money - but that they deserve it *because they are intrinsically superior.* They do not believe that they are intrinsically superior *because they have the money*
You have things backwards. I am guessing that you come from a family and ancestral background who has had a mentally ill relationship with money, and that's the source of your misconceptions about it |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 5:01 PM Author: Talmudic Skies Explain all the genetic dead ends who inherited wealth. You think Prince Harry is superior too? Remember, these people were not good with money. They had a legal monopoly, hired advisors, and still parliament had to intervene to keep them rich. You think anybody who inherits money has the intrinsic tools to earn it all back? Insane. A lot of royals around the world are almost nonverbal and have wn IQ below 70. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880657) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 5:03 PM Author: internet poaster with a praise kink Brother are you trying to provoke me into insulting you? We are talking about how other people perceive themselves and others. We are not discussing our own value judgments. Is this an IQ issue for you or what's the deal?
You're literally proving my argument with these responses btw. You're saying that you don't perceive rich people as intrinsically superior (high class) because they have money (correct, you don't, no gentiles think like this), because many people who happen to be rich clearly did not earn the money due to their intrinsic merit
If you divorce yourself from your emotional feelings on this topic, you will find that you already have the tools to understand it correctly |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 5:58 PM Author: Talmudic Skies I obviously concur that rich people have an overly inflated sense of self importance. But you seem to be arguing that those who have the most deserve it because of phenotype and could gain it back easily because they are superior. I think a lot of them couldn't or wouldn't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880782) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:37 PM Author: novus homo (gunneratttt) it's not true that things were different before. the aristocracy merely formalized classes with hereditary titles.
wealth has *always* tended to grow. when you have wealth you can buy soldiers, you can take on new ventures, etc. of course there was class mobility in both directions too, which is why you'd have poor patricians and rich plebians (novus homo!), and we eventually ended the formalization of aristocracy. but the phenomenon that gave rise to that, wealth generating more wealth, has always existed. even when wealth wasn't formalized into currency it happened.
you're right that idle an rich isn't better than a prole intrinsically. that's why there was begrudging class mobility even when the aristocracy was formalized was possible. but there is more class mobility today than there was before. |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:49 PM Author: Talmudic Skies We certainly have more mobility than say France in 1792. But far less than USA in 1950. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880642) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:59 PM Author: novus homo (gunneratttt) and there was more mobility after the american revolution, and more after the civil war, and more after the progressive era, and more after ww2.
in all of these cases the destruction of an existing system led to more opportunity, and the generations of people that seized that grew wealthier over time, until it was destroyed.
this has happened before the aristocratic system was invented. it happened before money was invented. it happened with natives that had no contact with the west. it's a phenomenon that exists because of human nature, which is always the same. if we reset to zero in a fallout/madmax world it would happen there too. |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 5:45 PM Author: barnabyjones "He has a large head, studious and brainy and calculating phenotype."
you can call Brooks a jew here. |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 3:44 PM Author: Covid was a Hoax i think its mostly a religious thing not a money thing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880455) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 3:45 PM Author: internet poaster with a praise kink (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880459) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 3:46 PM Author: Talmudic Skies Explain? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880467) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 5:10 PM Author: Apathetic prepper calvinist predetermination for salvation (wealth) or damnation (proledom) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880674) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 3:46 PM Author: internet poaster with a praise kink Nobody thinks about themselves or others in terms of money except Jews and some Asians (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880466) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 3:47 PM Author: Talmudic Skies Not true rich whites do too obviously. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880468) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 3:49 PM Author: internet poaster with a praise kink No they don't
Class as wealth was a goofy Jewish invention of Marx that is not real outside of the tribe. People group themselves and others based on their intrinsic characteristics, or what they *imagine to be* their intrinsic characteristics |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:20 PM Author: novus homo (gunneratttt) when proles ascend do the remain in prole neighborhoods? do they send their kids to the dindu thunderdome? of course not.
class absolutely plays a part in what tribe you're in. intrinsic characteristics play a big part too, but it's certainly not everything. |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:30 PM Author: internet poaster with a praise kink Intrinsic characteristics ARE class. That's what 'class' is. It's biology
Everyone implicitly understands this and it was explicitly known as common sense by everyone up until about 150 years ago when a Jewish guy named Marx made up an alternative reality where ackshually class is derived from the amount of "money" that someone has. He thought this way because he was Jewish, and that's how Jewish people think - they are different from everyone else due to the circumstances of their own breeding over time
I'm not hating on Marx or even Jews. He was a really smart guy actually. His ideas mostly conquered the world, clearly, because even today you have white goys like you and HATP earnestly insisting that human beings judge and classify each other by abstractions instead of flesh and blood and behavior, which is so obviously true when you think about it for a couple minutes that you will feel very foolish for believing it your entire life up until now
I will add that one thing that confuses people, and that I already alluded to above, is that this is how humans PERCEIVE themselves and each other, even if it is not always EMPIRICALLY TRUE. People who are wealthy BELIEVE that they are superior to others based on their born, intrinsic characteristics, even if they literally won the lottery. Their brain will rationalize that they deserved it all along because they are naturally superior to others. NOT that they are superior to others because they have the MONEY |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:35 PM Author: novus homo (gunneratttt) why don't you answer my questions then? does jd vance still live in meemaw's trailer park? is he going to send his kids to the public school he went to?
i'm not insisting anything, i'm saying what *IS*. even if you think class was a marxist invention you're admitting it "mostly conquered the world." you're saying you wish things were different, i'm saying how they are. |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:39 PM Author: internet poaster with a praise kink I genuinely don't understand what you're asking at all (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880624) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:44 PM Author: novus homo (gunneratttt) when a poor person becomes rich, do they continue to live in the poor community they grew up in and send their children to school with poor kids? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880633) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:47 PM Author: internet poaster with a praise kink No, Vance doesn't send his kids to the same school that he went to, which is full of born losers (in his eyes, and in reality), unlike him and his kids, who are born superior (in his eyes, and in reality)
It has nothing to do with wealth. Vance is actually a very good case study for this topic that will help you understand it. He talks about this distinction at length in Hillbilly Elegy |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 5:04 PM Author: novus homo (gunneratttt) so class is intrinsic and biological and when class mobility occurs it's like transubstantiation? ok. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880664) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 5:15 PM Author: internet poaster with a praise kink No. When someone like JD Vance experiences "class mobility" during his own lifetime, it is due to his intrinsic characteristics - what he was born with. Vance was born intelligent, ambitious, focused, tall. While his family had pretty good genes for proles, he's obviously a very very favorable genetic outlier
JD Vance was born a prole, surrounded by drug addict retards. He's now the future President of the United States. Why is that? Is it because he made money...? No, it's because he was born with the above intrinsically superior characteristics, so naturally he moved from the World Of The Inferior to the World Of The Superior
The sources of his success - intelligence, cunning, industriousness, sociability, etc - these are all qualities that he was born with. Him "making money" at some point along the way has absolutely nothing to do with his current class. It was all his genetics, all along |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 5:18 PM Author: novus homo (gunneratttt) you edited your poast above with a paragraph about perception.
https://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&mc=45&forum_id=2#48880604
you can't say "class is biology" and end with "i'm talking about perception". one is objective and one is subjective.
jd vance's kids are going to go to school with the kids of the idle rich, some of whom are dumb and would not have become rich if they started at zero. they will be in the same community, the same social class, because of the wealth of their parents, not biology. |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 5:21 PM Author: ,..,,......,....,,,,..,.,... explain RSF then (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880695) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 5:25 PM Author: internet poaster with a praise kink RSF is a low class loser and everyone here knows it, including himself. It's why he spends thousands of hours arguing with a convicted felon. Same goes for CSLG and his almost satirical posts fishing for validation. They will always be low class. No one will ever attend a dinner party with either of those guys and walk away impressed
Deep down inside, everyone knows the real score. Everyone. People can deny it all they want, but we all know |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 5:34 PM Author: novus homo (gunneratttt) but "high class winners" WILL go to same dinner party with "low class losers" because their social class involves wealth. they will attend the same country clubs, their kids will go to the same schools, etc.
Date: April 25th, 2025 3:49 PM Author: internet poaster with a praise kink
No they don't Class as wealth was a goofy Jewish invention of Marx that is not real outside of the tribe. People group themselves and others based on their intrinsic characteristics, or what they *imagine to be* their intrinsic characteristics
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2#48880488) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 5:45 PM Author: internet poaster with a praise kink Generally not. People keep guys like CSLG and RSF around because they have something they want (money, access, expertise, etc). Not because they genuinely like them as friends and peers
Not to dump on RSF and CSLG here, because I don't actually dislike either of them since they're valuable Content Creators in our community. But people like them aren't getting invites and relationships of substance from/with actually High Class folks. And don't worry, their kids will be treated accordingly by their peers in their "rich people schools"☺️ |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 6:03 PM Author: novus homo (gunneratttt) what does any of that MATTER? they are still grouped together as in part of the same social group.
if you're saying that "class doesn't exist because a smart rich guy won't really respect a dumb rich guy", that's retarded. we all form friendships and bonds because of subjective preferences. and that extends to way more things than intrinsic qualities/biology, as you said from the outset.
lots of people don't genuinely like their neighbor or schoolmate or a guy at their country club. they are STILL IN THE SAME SOCIAL CLASS.
social class =/= an individual's network of friends |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 7:38 PM Author: ,..,,......,....,,,,..,.,... Who do you think fits in better in st tropez, rsf or vance (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48881032) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 8:50 PM Author: Talmudic Skies Tell us about your experience at dinner parties with distinguished guests. Is this like the time Orson Wells met Hitler and "didn't think much of him"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48881206) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:41 PM Author: cowgod ( ) Are you saying that high school Clique is more salient than net worth….? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880625) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:43 PM Author: internet poaster with a praise kink Clique Theory isn't perfect but it's about 100x better at describing and predicting objective reality than Marx's class = wealth theory, which is why it's such a funny and effective meme (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880630) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:59 PM Author: Talmudic Skies Lmao bizarre shtick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880655) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 5:56 PM Author: barnabyjones whites are more likely to adhere to clique over wealth than jews or asains. for example, the hvac guy whos son is the star qb at the local high school will be held by whites in higher regard than the nerdy jewish biglawyer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880772) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 6:10 PM Author: novus homo (gunneratttt) jfc you clearly haven't even read marx if you think that was his position. he had some PRETTY STRONG THOUGHTS about different races.
nobody is denying that intrinsic things like race contribute to what "group" someone is in. but wealth obviously does too. you seem to think that "class" encapsulates a person completely when nobody, including marx, ever thought that. |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 6:19 PM Author: internet poaster with a praise kink At the individual level, all class considerations are intra-racial. It's not a coherent concept inter-racially. Just another reason why attempts to make societies "multi-cultural" don't work at all. You're comparing apples to oranges to bananas and trying to put them in overlapping categories. Totally incoherent. Who cares about how red the bananas are?
This is another thing that Clique Theory gets correct |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 6:30 PM Author: novus homo (gunneratttt) you're wrong and engaging in black/white thinking. a rich white guy is going to see clarence thomas as part of his tribe more than benzo.
admitting this doesn't mean that i'm some multi-cultural kumbaya shitlib. it's just an acknowledging that wealth plays a huge part in a person's tribe. you're denying it plays any, which is observably wrong. |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 7:43 PM Author: "'''""""'"' marx doesn't say this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48881035) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 8:50 PM Author: Talmudic Skies Cr never heard of Marx's "wealth theory". This guy is tripping. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48881209) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:14 PM Author: tarrifs Not sure the rich do. The precarious UMC hate proles because (i) they're surrounded by proles and can't escape their filth, stench and noise, (ii) proles are constantly trying to steal from them, either directly or through taxes, and (iii) proles remind them where they came from and are likely returning (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880565) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:15 PM Author: Oh, you travel? ( ) to proles, the UMC are "the rich" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880567) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:16 PM Author: tarrifs Which is of course infuriating to the UMC (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880571) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:16 PM Author: Covid was a Hoax this is mostly true. xo is still confused in that a married couple of surgeons who make 600k/yr each and have a 4mm dollar nw are obviously umc in 2025. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880570) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:22 PM Author: ,..,,......,....,,,,..,.,... insecurity. classes are fluid so there's always a danger you could end up like one of the proles. the richmos in the past never had to worry about this, so they felt obligated to uphold the social structure by protecting/providing for those beneath them. Tocqueville talks about this somewhere (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880590) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:42 PM Author: Oh, you travel? ( ) classes aren't really fluid today. just compare a prole Irish-Catholic neighborhood today to someone like Gavin Newsom. He too is Irish-Cath, but could you really imagine the owner of O'Reilly Plumbing and Leaking as Gavin Newsom, making moves and talking eloquently and all that?
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:52 PM Author: ,..,,......,....,,,,..,.,... doesn't count for anything when retard Kamala was the face of his party just a few months ago. turd immigrants and jewish intellectuals have rendered the old WASP "elite" defunct (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880646) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:43 PM Author: novus homo (gunneratttt) also with the classes static the upper class had more of a feeling they owned (often literally) the lower classes, who were the engines of their wealth and power. and so they treated them the way you treat a horse you own rather than a rented mule. and why enslaved people often wared worse materially after emancipation.
and when you own someone you also feel a duty to them paternalistically. the same reason people treat their pets better than wild animals. |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:46 PM Author: ,..,,......,....,,,,..,.,... yup. nig slaves were arguably treated better in the south than wagecucks in the north (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880636) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:53 PM Author: novus homo (gunneratttt) there were african slave colonies that resisted emancipation after seeing what happened to their neighbors.
of course there were brutal slave owners and generous employers of free labor. and also the literal ownership of a human comes with a lot of bad shit even if a slaves material conditions were better. but they often *were* better. |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: SkaddenArse They were 100% treated better. Slaves had paid for food clothing shelter health care. Poor whites up north just got debtors prison. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48881467) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 4:45 PM Author: Talmudic Skies I would say the opposite is true. Aristocrats are far less likely to fail than ever before. Genetic dead ends are getting away with murder. If you look at King Charles or Akihito/Naruhito it's evident that the longer your line goes without any pressure to succeed the more it degrades until the offspring are just a puddle of waste. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48880635) |
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Date: April 25th, 2025 7:56 PM Author: cowgod ( ) Because proles play Xbox (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5716060&forum_id=2Elisa#48881074) |