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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
Know-it-all school cafeteria
  11/09/25
180
Obsidian locus selfie
  11/09/25
they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
Know-it-all school cafeteria
  11/09/25
much more than that
vigorous blood rage office
  11/09/25
anal rape?
angry bateful base ceo
  11/09/25
But also some negative consequences
Geriatric floppy hissy fit
  11/09/25
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Sepia electric house dingle berry
  11/09/25
Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
Obsidian locus selfie
  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
Carmine psychic
  11/09/25
...
Stimulating twinkling water buffalo therapy
  11/09/25
why who is he?
Know-it-all school cafeteria
  11/09/25
Lol sup ballmer
offensive provocative menage internal respiration
  11/09/25
...
Obsidian locus selfie
  11/09/25
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Ruby razzle stage
  11/09/25
cr he blows
tripping thriller degenerate
  11/09/25
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Bat shit crazy godawful location
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Bat shit crazy godawful location
  11/09/25
Cleveland *Indians*
Flushed big associate persian
  11/09/25
indians, cleveland
marvelous boltzmann
  11/09/25
im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
Dun exhilarant crackhouse
  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
Know-it-all school cafeteria
  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
Dun exhilarant crackhouse
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
Buff plaza puppy
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
coral multi-billionaire theater
  11/09/25
why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
citrine slimy institution pozpig
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
cerebral forum boistinker
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
marvelous boltzmann
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
Buff plaza puppy
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
tripping thriller degenerate
  11/09/25
*destroying
Know-it-all school cafeteria
  11/09/25
How do you calculate $5k
vigorous blood rage office
  11/09/25
thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
tripping thriller degenerate
  11/09/25
That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
vigorous blood rage office
  11/09/25
Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
fishy odious pit partner
  11/10/25
ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
Know-it-all school cafeteria
  11/09/25
Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
Cream trip hominid theater stage
  11/09/25
How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
Know-it-all school cafeteria
  11/09/25
Jews maf
Buff plaza puppy
  11/09/25
it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
Dun exhilarant crackhouse
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
Know-it-all school cafeteria
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
Dun exhilarant crackhouse
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
tripping thriller degenerate
  11/09/25
what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
citrine slimy institution pozpig
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
Cream trip hominid theater stage
  11/09/25
Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
frum headpube
  11/09/25
there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
Know-it-all school cafeteria
  11/09/25
the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
frum headpube
  11/09/25
i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
citrine slimy institution pozpig
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
Know-it-all school cafeteria
  11/09/25
here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
Know-it-all school cafeteria
  11/09/25
lol
frum headpube
  11/09/25
Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
canary vivacious weed whacker codepig
  11/09/25
...
Buff plaza puppy
  11/09/25
that is fucking hilarious.
Pink vengeful half-breed
  11/09/25
was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
marvelous boltzmann
  11/09/25
its real, clearly a major league reference
tripping thriller degenerate
  11/09/25
anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
cerebral forum boistinker
  11/10/25
I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
Cream trip hominid theater stage
  11/09/25
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Sepia electric house dingle berry
  11/09/25
lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
Know-it-all school cafeteria
  11/10/25
...
Buff plaza puppy
  11/10/25
could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
buck-toothed amethyst macaca
  11/10/25
lol
Brass Lascivious Church Building
  11/10/25
Lmao
fishy odious pit partner
  11/10/25


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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: Know-it-all school cafeteria

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414444)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: Obsidian locus selfie

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414449)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: Know-it-all school cafeteria

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414453)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: vigorous blood rage office

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: angry bateful base ceo

anal rape?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414492)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: Geriatric floppy hissy fit

But also some negative consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414697)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Sepia electric house dingle berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415169)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: Obsidian locus selfie

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Carmine psychic

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Stimulating twinkling water buffalo therapy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414462)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: Know-it-all school cafeteria

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: offensive provocative menage internal respiration

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: Obsidian locus selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414547)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: Ruby razzle stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414879)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: tripping thriller degenerate

cr he blows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414535)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy godawful location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415195)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy godawful location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415193)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Flushed big associate persian

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: marvelous boltzmann

indians, cleveland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414465)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Dun exhilarant crackhouse

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: Know-it-all school cafeteria

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Dun exhilarant crackhouse

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Buff plaza puppy

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: coral multi-billionaire theater

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: citrine slimy institution pozpig

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: cerebral forum boistinker

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: marvelous boltzmann

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: Buff plaza puppy

import the third world, become the third world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414466)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: tripping thriller degenerate

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Know-it-all school cafeteria

*destroying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414493)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: vigorous blood rage office

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: tripping thriller degenerate

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: vigorous blood rage office

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: fishy odious pit partner

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Know-it-all school cafeteria

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: Cream trip hominid theater stage

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: Know-it-all school cafeteria

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: Buff plaza puppy

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Dun exhilarant crackhouse

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Know-it-all school cafeteria

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: Dun exhilarant crackhouse

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: tripping thriller degenerate

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: citrine slimy institution pozpig

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Cream trip hominid theater stage

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: frum headpube

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: Know-it-all school cafeteria

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: frum headpube

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: citrine slimy institution pozpig

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: Know-it-all school cafeteria

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: Know-it-all school cafeteria

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: frum headpube

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: canary vivacious weed whacker codepig

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: Buff plaza puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414950)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: Pink vengeful half-breed

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: marvelous boltzmann

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: tripping thriller degenerate

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: cerebral forum boistinker

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: Cream trip hominid theater stage

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Sepia electric house dingle berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415170)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: Know-it-all school cafeteria

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: Buff plaza puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49416110)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: buck-toothed amethyst macaca

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: Brass Lascivious Church Building

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: fishy odious pit partner

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49416774)