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yapping bbw
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laughsome sanctuary
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LOL me too Im only in my late twentys and my doc said i...
laughsome sanctuary
  02/28/12
was just going to post this
Arrogant Hospital Partner
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the matter of fact response he gets is 180 too
yapping bbw
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he's pretty good at typing one-handed
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*student intern in the room takes notes on the progress of t...
Provocative adulterous legend
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*googles "female proctologist* *profits*
Alcoholic dead twinkling uncleanness brunch
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Lol
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Likewise, My family doctor died a few years ago, so now I ju...
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The Facebook
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Was just in Australia and went to see me favorite doctor. Af...
Arrogant Hospital Partner
  02/28/12
Why did she squeeze his penis?
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180 toaster
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She is really a Thai bro helping another bro.
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I came.
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180
Diverse Copper Theatre
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this one seems like flame
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they're all flame, you fucking idiot
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Was just in Australia and went to see me favorite doctor. ...
Magenta Temple
  02/28/12
I had the clap and went to the doctor. He needed a seman sam...
Alcoholic dead twinkling uncleanness brunch
  02/28/12
sounds like he does leave his patients hanging. hanging limp...
Magenta Temple
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I've never had a prostate exam. Now I feel like I'm missing ...
Alcoholic dead twinkling uncleanness brunch
  02/28/12
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pearl aphrodisiac brethren
  02/28/12
wtf. does this really go on in our hospitals?
rose misanthropic international law enforcement agency indirect expression
  02/28/12
Gay sex must be 180
Alcoholic dead twinkling uncleanness brunch
  02/28/12
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yapping bbw
  02/28/12
No homo, but I can help you out, brother.
metal bat-shit-crazy resort
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(Decades later, this was VERY homo)
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Wow..my husband is going for his first exam in a month or so...
180 toaster
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I'd love for an alpha bro to insert his alpha finger in my b...
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needs video
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opaque painfully honest station doctorate
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I got this done once by a really hot nurse practitioner. Sh...
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Did the tension make you more excited?
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wtf this really happens? this terrifies me
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judgmental lodge immigrant
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the most sexual experience i've had with a doctor was this h...
disrespectful arousing useless brakes volcanic crater
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LOL. Wonder if she just thinks that all penises are always e...
Salmon stirring school cafeteria boiling water
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nice one time i had a bump on my dick i wanted checked ou...
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Date: February 28th, 2012 5:49 PM
Author: yapping bbw

http://ehealthforum.com/health/erection-during-prostate-exam-t137706.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#20076540)



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Date: February 28th, 2012 5:52 PM
Author: laughsome sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#20076557)



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Date: February 28th, 2012 5:56 PM
Author: laughsome sanctuary

LOL

me too

Im only in my late twentys and my doc said i needed a prostate exam,As ive never heard of one i thought it was just a blood test or somthin??.

When the day came his nurse took me into an examination room and instructed me to remove all my clothing and put on a johnny. I undressed and she helped me tie the back.I got half a rod on just changing infront of her! Shes about 40 and wholsomely looking.

Now THE BAD PART!!!!!!!!

The doc came in and said,Remove the johhny and climb up onto the table on your hands and knees and dip my back.He grabbed rubber gloves and slid 2 fingers in my anus and pushed and wiggled them around making my penis get rock hard! He did this for several minutes until i had the most powerful orgasm of my life! Huge amounts of sperm flew all over my legs and the table as he and the nurse watched!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Read more: Prostate Forum - Erection during prostate exam http://ehealthforum.com/health/erection-during-prostate-exam-t137706.html#ixzz1nihq7SWh

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Date: February 28th, 2012 6:00 PM
Author: Arrogant Hospital Partner

was just going to post this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#20076606)



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Date: February 28th, 2012 6:02 PM
Author: yapping bbw

the matter of fact response he gets is 180 too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#20076612)



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Date: March 1st, 2013 2:06 PM
Author: Abnormal Really Tough Guy Cuckold

he's pretty good at typing one-handed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#22735484)



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Date: June 5th, 2026 10:53 AM
Author: ...,....,,........



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#49916749)



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Date: March 1st, 2013 7:27 PM
Author: Provocative adulterous legend

*student intern in the room takes notes on the progress of the exam*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#22737224)



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Date: February 28th, 2012 5:57 PM
Author: Alcoholic dead twinkling uncleanness brunch

*googles "female proctologist*

*profits*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#20076583)



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Date: February 28th, 2012 6:02 PM
Author: laughsome sanctuary

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#20076615)



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Date: March 1st, 2013 7:17 PM
Author: disrespectful arousing useless brakes volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#22737189)



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Date: March 1st, 2013 7:47 PM
Author: Nighttime razzle-dazzle cruise ship

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#22737296)



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Date: July 5th, 2014 11:14 PM
Author: Greedy roommate



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Date: June 5th, 2026 10:53 AM
Author: ...,....,,........



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#49916750)



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Date: February 28th, 2012 6:00 PM
Author: Arrogant Hospital Partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#20076597)



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Date: February 28th, 2012 6:05 PM
Author: Alcoholic dead twinkling uncleanness brunch

Likewise, My family doctor died a few years ago, so now I just make a booking and I get who ever is working. When I had my first prostate exam, I got Dr Sun, she is a Youngish asian lady, not gorgeous, but sexy in that kinda interlectual way. I definatly didn't get hard by beign around her, but I was there because I was having trouble pissing but didn't tell the receptionist when I booked. I had no idea what to expect, last thing that occurred that I was going to get a prostate exam. I went behind the screen and put on the gown and all was still fine, then she commented that I was in very good shape, then I realised that there was a mirror on the eall opposite. That is when I started to get an erection. I can't say I enjoyed the experience, She told me to relax and breath, but it felt wrong so I felt uncomfortable, but once she poked what I assume was my prostate, it made my !**@! twitch each time she touched it, and this only made it harder. Then to make matters worse, she could tell I was really embarrased, but she told me that my girlfriend was a lucky girl. I just felt humiliated.

She arranged blood tests and I had to go back to get the results. It just turned out I had an infection that was cleared up with antibiotics, but when I went back she smiled. I actually considered asking her out, but my girlfriend is a patient at the same clinic and we had seen dr sun when we got our shots before our last holiday.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#20076626)



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Date: June 5th, 2026 10:41 AM
Author: The Facebook



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#49916732)



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Date: February 28th, 2012 6:07 PM
Author: Arrogant Hospital Partner

Was just in Australia and went to see me favorite doctor. After a lot of catching up she looked over her notes and asked if I'd had a DRE since she last did one, saying it is over a year. I flushed red and told her no. She giggled, held up her index finger and smiling, very coyly asked are you ready for this, twisting her hand back and forth. We both laughed till we had tears in our eyes. She locked the door and began washing her hands and told me to take off my shoes, socks, pants and underpants. By the time she got to the table and gloved up I more than half hard. She placed a towel on the exam table and asked me to get in the prayer position with my business over the towel. She massaged my anus for about a minute, gently putting the tip of her finger slightly in, while she rested her left hand on my lower back at the top of my crack. She went all the way in very slowly and it was painless, not like the other ones who just cram it in. She pulled it all the way out and did this 3 more times. By this time I am harder than Chinese Arithmetic. As she began the prostate massage, as she called it, I blurted out her name and said I may ejaculate. She leaned close to my ear and said that is what the towel is for. She grasped my penis in her left hand and squeezed and released, still with her finger in my butt. She said it is OK to ejaculate and man the second she said it I shot off like no tomorrow, Wow. She gently removed her finger and told me to remain there. She took a wet warm towel and cleaned my rear and asked me to hop off the table. She steadied me, removed the towel I had ejaculated on and asked me to lie down on my back. She took another warm towel and cleaned my penis, belly and testicles. When she went to her desk and started typing her notes she said I could get dressed when I was comfortable to stand.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#20076634)



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Date: February 28th, 2012 6:08 PM
Author: Alcoholic dead twinkling uncleanness brunch

Why did she squeeze his penis?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#20076640)



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Date: February 28th, 2012 6:37 PM
Author: 180 toaster



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Date: February 28th, 2012 7:18 PM
Author: metal bat-shit-crazy resort

She is really a Thai bro helping another bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#20077063)



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Date: June 5th, 2026 10:54 AM
Author: ...,....,,........



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Date: February 28th, 2012 6:18 PM
Author: curious shrine faggotry

I came.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#20076695)



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Date: February 28th, 2012 7:10 PM
Author: pearl aphrodisiac brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#20077031)



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Date: February 28th, 2012 6:55 PM
Author: Diverse Copper Theatre

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#20076946)



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Date: March 1st, 2013 7:08 PM
Author: Onyx twisted indian lodge mad-dog skullcap

this one seems like flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#22737174)



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Date: March 26th, 2014 6:08 PM
Author: motley patrolman background story

they're all flame, you fucking idiot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#25266563)



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Date: March 26th, 2014 6:05 PM
Author: Vibrant forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#25266546)



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Date: February 28th, 2012 6:07 PM
Author: Magenta Temple

Was just in Australia and went to see me favorite doctor. After a lot of catching up she looked over her notes and asked if I'd had a DRE since she last did one, saying it is over a year. I flushed red and told her no. She giggled, held up her index finger and smiling, very coyly asked are you ready for this, twisting her hand back and forth. We both laughed till we had tears in our eyes. She locked the door and began washing her hands and told me to take off my shoes, socks, pants and underpants. By the time she got to the table and gloved up I more than half hard. She placed a towel on the exam table and asked me to get in the prayer position with my business over the towel. She massaged my anus for about a minute, gently putting the tip of her finger slightly in, while she rested her left hand on my lower back at the top of my crack. She went all the way in very slowly and it was painless, not like the other ones who just cram it in. She pulled it all the way out and did this 3 more times. By this time I am harder than Chinese Arithmetic. As she began the prostate massage, as she called it, I blurted out her name and said I may ejaculate. She leaned close to my ear and said that is what the towel is for. She grasped my penis in her left hand and squeezed and released, still with her finger in my butt. She said it is OK to ejaculate and man the second she said it I shot off like no tomorrow, Wow. She gently removed her finger and told me to remain there. She took a wet warm towel and cleaned my rear and asked me to hop off the table. She steadied me, removed the towel I had ejaculated on and asked me to lie down on my back. She took another warm towel and cleaned my penis, belly and testicles. When she went to her desk and started typing her notes she said I could get dressed when I was comfortable to stand.

Read more: Prostate Forum - Erection during prostate exam http://ehealthforum.com/health/erection-during-prostate-exam-t137706.html#ixzz1niki9vuX

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#20076638)



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Date: February 28th, 2012 6:12 PM
Author: Alcoholic dead twinkling uncleanness brunch

I had the clap and went to the doctor. He needed a seman sample. He had me bend over the examination table and milked my prostate. After I got hard he had me hod a cup in front of my penis to catch the sperm. He was an old doctor. He masterfully milked my prostate till I came lie mad in the cup. And he continued to milk me till I was drained and through. "I don't leave my patients hanging" he said. I guess that was to explain the completion of the orgasim. While he milked me he leaned beside me with his hand on my shoulder. Hence the terms "sending flowers to my doctor".



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#20076661)



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Date: February 28th, 2012 6:13 PM
Author: Magenta Temple

sounds like he does leave his patients hanging. hanging limp that is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#20076669)



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Date: February 28th, 2012 6:14 PM
Author: Alcoholic dead twinkling uncleanness brunch

I've never had a prostate exam. Now I feel like I'm missing out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#20076675)



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Date: February 28th, 2012 7:11 PM
Author: pearl aphrodisiac brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#20077036)



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Date: February 28th, 2012 6:16 PM
Author: rose misanthropic international law enforcement agency indirect expression

wtf. does this really go on in our hospitals?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#20076683)



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Date: February 28th, 2012 6:17 PM
Author: Alcoholic dead twinkling uncleanness brunch

Gay sex must be 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#20076693)



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Date: February 28th, 2012 6:26 PM
Author: yapping bbw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#20076743)



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Date: February 28th, 2012 6:31 PM
Author: metal bat-shit-crazy resort

No homo, but I can help you out, brother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#20076777)



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Date: June 5th, 2026 10:54 AM
Author: ...,....,,........

(Decades later, this was VERY homo)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#49916753)



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Date: February 28th, 2012 6:34 PM
Author: 180 toaster

Wow..my husband is going for his first exam in a month or so..after reading these, I am going to make him cancel until I can find a male doc to do it..some of these posts border on pornographic..it should be absolutely professional..but a young, late-20s female doc purposely stimulating your scrotum and your penis to make you ejaculate?! And saying "lucky girlfriend?" this makes me sick..if it happened to a woman she would have the doc sued, but men here seem to love being sexually molested..



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#20076798)



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Date: February 28th, 2012 6:39 PM
Author: metal bat-shit-crazy resort

I'd love for an alpha bro to insert his alpha finger in my bronus. No homo though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#20076839)



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Date: February 28th, 2012 6:49 PM
Author: topaz glittery stock car

Shrew a-fucking-lert. She'd better hook a hubby up with dat prostate massage post-haste.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#20076919)



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Date: March 26th, 2014 6:09 PM
Author: bonkers emerald property

"if it happened to a woman she would have the doc sued, but men here seem to love being sexually molested"

& yet women r just as sexual as men and really not any different at all, isn't that weird how they react so differently

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#25266572)



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Date: February 28th, 2012 6:59 PM
Author: avocado tanning salon

needs video

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#20076967)



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Date: March 1st, 2013 2:04 PM
Author: opaque painfully honest station doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#22735468)



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Date: March 1st, 2013 2:12 PM
Author: scarlet marvelous church cuckoldry

I got this done once by a really hot nurse practitioner. She was all business, but it was really uncomfortable.

As soon as she slipped her fingers in I got erect like a mofo, and a little came out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#22735510)



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Date: March 1st, 2013 6:36 PM
Author: opaque painfully honest station doctorate

Did the tension make you more excited?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#22737042)



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Date: March 1st, 2013 6:39 PM
Author: flushed racy idea he suggested gaming laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#22737057)



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Date: March 1st, 2013 7:41 PM
Author: Pink bateful death wish famous landscape painting

wtf this really happens?

this terrifies me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#22737268)



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Date: March 1st, 2013 7:57 PM
Author: Impressive bronze office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#22737326)



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Date: March 1st, 2013 8:00 PM
Author: Wonderful love of her life locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#22737335)



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Date: March 1st, 2013 8:01 PM
Author: judgmental lodge immigrant

xo fuckin women man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#22737342)



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Date: March 1st, 2013 8:58 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal parlour new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#22737575)



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Date: March 1st, 2013 9:12 PM
Author: excitant market goal in life

lol, ew that must've been so embarrassing! so what happened though jw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#22737657)



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Date: March 1st, 2013 9:18 PM
Author: judgmental lodge immigrant

as a harvard man havent u ever experienced an ashamed middle class jewtalian getting wet due to ur presence near her genitals

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#22737691)



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Date: March 1st, 2013 9:15 PM
Author: disrespectful arousing useless brakes volcanic crater

the most sexual experience i've had with a doctor was this hot as fuck early 30s blonde in shape milf doctor who was my physician at the time. During one physical she asked me to drop my pants and cupped my balls and asked me to cough (I already had a semi at this point). It was 180, but would be horribly awkward wit some dude doctor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#22737676)



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Date: March 26th, 2014 8:24 PM
Author: Salmon stirring school cafeteria boiling water

LOL. Wonder if she just thinks that all penises are always erect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#25267291)



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Date: November 9th, 2021 12:44 PM
Author: swashbuckling bossy school philosopher-king

nice

one time i had a bump on my dick i wanted checked out, went to a minute clinic, my doctor came in and she was this hot af blonde chick, she asks me why i visited (she had to have known i filled out a form saying why i was there and she had that in her hand)

i tell her and she says okay, one second i will be right back, then about 15 minutes later in walks this husky obviously gay gay (think your stereotypical gay bear type guy), he is very obviously not a doctor and just a nurse, he has my dick in his hand and is inspecting and is like "i dont see any bumps"

granted it was a very small bump and i was just paranoid after having raw dogged this girl from the bar who i didnt know two weeks prior

he finally sees it and is like "oh thats nothing, maybe just irritation"

left really disappointed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#43411890)



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Date: November 9th, 2021 1:01 PM
Author: Razzmatazz pearly senate

She wanted to get someone with more experience inspecting dicks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1885906&forum_id=2Elisa#43411984)