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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
Irate chartreuse set
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180
Insanely creepy skinny woman
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they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
Irate chartreuse set
  11/09/25
much more than that
flushed outnumbered center
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anal rape?
Lake Hissy Fit Market
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But also some negative consequences
emerald sick friendly grandma
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vivacious shimmering people who are hurt
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Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
Insanely creepy skinny woman
  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
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Glassy Mischievous Blood Rage
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why who is he?
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Lol sup ballmer
Poppy Crackhouse
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Insanely creepy skinny woman
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sickened underhanded hall
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cr he blows
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razzle seedy pocket flask box office
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Cleveland *Indians*
spectacular generalized bond
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indians, cleveland
frozen rebellious selfie
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im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
obsidian magical kitchen multi-billionaire
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Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
Irate chartreuse set
  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
obsidian magical kitchen multi-billionaire
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
dashing flirting athletic conference
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
fiercely-loyal step-uncle's house haunted graveyard
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why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
cracking misanthropic parlor yarmulke
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
Bronze new version
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
frozen rebellious selfie
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
dashing flirting athletic conference
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
Lascivious salmon institution
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*destroying
Irate chartreuse set
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How do you calculate $5k
flushed outnumbered center
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thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
Lascivious salmon institution
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That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
flushed outnumbered center
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Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
mind-boggling kitty cat
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ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
Irate chartreuse set
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Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
boyish idea he suggested
  11/09/25
How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
Irate chartreuse set
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Jews maf
dashing flirting athletic conference
  11/09/25
it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
obsidian magical kitchen multi-billionaire
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
Irate chartreuse set
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
obsidian magical kitchen multi-billionaire
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
Lascivious salmon institution
  11/09/25
what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
cracking misanthropic parlor yarmulke
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
boyish idea he suggested
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Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
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there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
Irate chartreuse set
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the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
flatulent immigrant stag film
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i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
cracking misanthropic parlor yarmulke
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
Irate chartreuse set
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here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
Irate chartreuse set
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lol
flatulent immigrant stag film
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Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
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dashing flirting athletic conference
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that is fucking hilarious.
plum whorehouse ape
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was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
frozen rebellious selfie
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its real, clearly a major league reference
Lascivious salmon institution
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anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
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I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
boyish idea he suggested
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vivacious shimmering people who are hurt
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lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
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dashing flirting athletic conference
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could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
stirring university stain
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lol
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Lmao
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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: Irate chartreuse set

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414444)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: Insanely creepy skinny woman

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414449)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: Irate chartreuse set

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414453)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: flushed outnumbered center

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Lake Hissy Fit Market

anal rape?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414492)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: emerald sick friendly grandma

But also some negative consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414697)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: vivacious shimmering people who are hurt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415169)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: Insanely creepy skinny woman

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Cordovan stimulating international law enforcement agency sanctuary

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Glassy Mischievous Blood Rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414462)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: Irate chartreuse set

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Poppy Crackhouse

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: Insanely creepy skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414547)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: sickened underhanded hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414879)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Lascivious salmon institution

cr he blows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414535)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: razzle seedy pocket flask box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415195)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: razzle seedy pocket flask box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415193)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: spectacular generalized bond

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: frozen rebellious selfie

indians, cleveland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414465)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: obsidian magical kitchen multi-billionaire

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: Irate chartreuse set

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: obsidian magical kitchen multi-billionaire

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: dashing flirting athletic conference

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal step-uncle's house haunted graveyard

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: cracking misanthropic parlor yarmulke

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: Bronze new version

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: frozen rebellious selfie

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: dashing flirting athletic conference

import the third world, become the third world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414466)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Lascivious salmon institution

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Irate chartreuse set

*destroying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414493)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: flushed outnumbered center

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: Lascivious salmon institution

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: flushed outnumbered center

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: mind-boggling kitty cat

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Irate chartreuse set

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: boyish idea he suggested

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: Irate chartreuse set

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: dashing flirting athletic conference

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: obsidian magical kitchen multi-billionaire

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Irate chartreuse set

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: obsidian magical kitchen multi-billionaire

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: Lascivious salmon institution

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: cracking misanthropic parlor yarmulke

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: boyish idea he suggested

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: flatulent immigrant stag film

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: Irate chartreuse set

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: flatulent immigrant stag film

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: cracking misanthropic parlor yarmulke

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: Irate chartreuse set

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: Irate chartreuse set

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: flatulent immigrant stag film

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: metal big-titted factory reset button

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: dashing flirting athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414950)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: plum whorehouse ape

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: frozen rebellious selfie

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: Lascivious salmon institution

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: Bronze new version

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: boyish idea he suggested

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: vivacious shimmering people who are hurt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415170)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: Irate chartreuse set

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: dashing flirting athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49416110)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: stirring university stain

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: Exhilarant library weed whacker

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: mind-boggling kitty cat

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Elisa#49416774)