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Wife left: tell me about seeking arrangements

Don’t want to risk hookers and i eventually want to tr...
sadistic friendly grandma
  09/22/25
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Gold Liquid Oxygen Hall
  09/23/25
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Gold Liquid Oxygen Hall
  09/23/25
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Gold Liquid Oxygen Hall
  09/23/25
White men don't [pay for sex]. Date: April 20th, 2026 1:2...
nyuug
  08/24/26
49ers owner is asian bro
nyuug
  08/24/26
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nyuug
  08/24/26
I'm not sure you're gonna be able to command top dollar cons...
thriller brindle patrolman
  09/22/25
If they can’t handle me at my worst they don’t d...
sadistic friendly grandma
  09/22/25
Your refusal to state your height speaks volumes.
thriller brindle patrolman
  09/22/25
6’2” 220 (terrible build) Slight receding...
sadistic friendly grandma
  09/23/25
why did your wife leave you?
Bonkers volcanic crater
  09/22/25
Wife had a mid life crisis. We married young but waited to h...
sadistic friendly grandma
  09/23/25
if you have a chance to bludgeon yourself retarded with rust...
lavender zombie-like garrison
  09/22/25
Grinder.com
Sinister twisted quadroon community account
  09/22/25
I don't believe OP is gay, though
thriller brindle patrolman
  09/23/25
There are some gems on SA if you’re willing to wade th...
useless excitant internal respiration
  09/23/25
Search for the seeking arrangement poaster’s threads. ...
Snowy Point Private Investor
  09/23/25
wow
flatulent pit round eye
  09/23/25
What's ur $$$$$ situation and geography? DESCRIBE ur terr...
aromatic abnormal heaven
  09/23/25
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Gold Liquid Oxygen Hall
  09/23/25
"Don’t want to risk hookers" I've got som...
Aggressive Space Gaping
  09/23/25
There’s some pros on there for sure but there’s ...
useless excitant internal respiration
  09/23/25
It is all literally sex for money.
Aggressive Space Gaping
  09/23/25
They're not hookers. They're just seeking Mutually Benefi...
thriller brindle patrolman
  09/23/25
Actual professional hookers seem less risky than this.
glittery hell
  09/23/25
How so?
useless excitant internal respiration
  09/23/25
They're not going to do something dumb like call or text you...
glittery hell
  09/23/25
I’d rather deal with an amateur hooker than a professi...
useless excitant internal respiration
  09/23/25
professional hookers are in business bcs they are profession...
anal set
  09/23/25
…?
useless excitant internal respiration
  09/23/25
Do not take advice from this poaster. He is dumb.
domesticated dysfunction
  09/23/25
I’m speaking from experience, are you?
useless excitant internal respiration
  09/24/25
that's why you give them a burner number and not your real n...
thriller brindle patrolman
  09/23/25
Also this
useless excitant internal respiration
  09/23/25
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self-centered office
  09/23/25
What does this sentence mean: “ start autistically get...
Snowy Point Private Investor
  09/23/25
I think he means dedicate your life to hobbies or scholarshi...
useless excitant internal respiration
  09/23/25
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self-centered office
  09/23/25
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flatulent pit round eye
  09/23/25
The time required to match/vet and potential for headaches t...
domesticated dysfunction
  09/23/25
Or he can go to church and find a decent woman to date/marry
irate shitlib
  09/23/25
1) he says he doesn’t want to marry, 2) dating is very...
domesticated dysfunction
  09/24/25
You will be amazed at how often their cars break down, famil...
Godawful Frisky Native
  09/23/25
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thriller brindle patrolman
  09/24/25
lol, sounds ghastly
Aggressive Space Gaping
  09/24/25
SA is a huge waste of time. Just hire hookers every now and ...
Misanthropic mewling goyim karate
  09/23/25
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self-centered office
  09/23/25
It is until you get caught in a sting.
thriller brindle patrolman
  09/24/25
There is no value in this. It died the same way dating apps...
cracking brunch
  09/24/25
SA Poaster Here... I got into a more serious relationship...
Silver Parlour Crotch
  10/21/25
What kind of PPM should I be looking at for high col city?
sadistic friendly grandma
  10/21/25
WHITE MEN DONT PAY FOR SEX DURR DURR
sooty odious place of business
  11/02/25
Reminder: nyuug isn't a Korean citizen, only has US Passport...
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nyuug
  08/24/26
This is like the worst parts of dating plus still having to ...
sadistic friendly grandma
  01/21/26
These women are nuts
sadistic friendly grandma
  01/24/26
they also enjoy licking your nuts
thriller brindle patrolman
  06/17/26
why not just go hunting the Bumblesauruses?
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: sadistic friendly grandma

Don’t want to risk hookers and i eventually want to try dating again but it’s been too long with the wife.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49291749)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:48 AM
Author: Gold Liquid Oxygen Hall

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49293910)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:50 AM
Author: Gold Liquid Oxygen Hall

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49293939)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 9:40 PM
Author: Gold Liquid Oxygen Hall

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49296549)



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Date: August 24th, 2026 5:25 PM
Author: nyuug

White men don't [pay for sex].

Date: April 20th, 2026 1:28 AM

Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,,.,.,..,>,...( )

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858159&forum_id=2#49828609

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#50090138)



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Date: August 24th, 2026 5:36 PM
Author: nyuug

49ers owner is asian bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#50090193)



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Date: August 24th, 2026 6:02 PM
Author: nyuug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#50090264)



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Date: September 22nd, 2025 3:08 PM
Author: thriller brindle patrolman

I'm not sure you're gonna be able to command top dollar considering your:

- age;

- height;

- remaining hair

But give it a go!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49291759)



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Date: September 22nd, 2025 3:17 PM
Author: sadistic friendly grandma

If they can’t handle me at my worst they don’t deserve me at my best

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49291776)



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Date: September 22nd, 2025 4:15 PM
Author: thriller brindle patrolman

Your refusal to state your height speaks volumes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49291944)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:00 AM
Author: sadistic friendly grandma

6’2”

220 (terrible build)

Slight receding with a widows peak. I don’t look balding yet but I’ve got some worries.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49293643)



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Date: September 22nd, 2025 4:15 PM
Author: Bonkers volcanic crater

why did your wife leave you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49291946)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:04 AM
Author: sadistic friendly grandma

Wife had a mid life crisis. We married young but waited to have kids so I’m not sure what her problem is.

I work too much is part of it.

She didn’t cuck me before separation but I assume she has by now.

So I’m done.

Don’t really want another wife while my kids are young.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49293651)



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Date: September 22nd, 2025 5:11 PM
Author: lavender zombie-like garrison

if you have a chance to bludgeon yourself retarded with rust caked pipes, do that over and over instead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49292139)



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Date: September 22nd, 2025 5:40 PM
Author: Sinister twisted quadroon community account

Grinder.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49292243)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 3:22 PM
Author: thriller brindle patrolman

I don't believe OP is gay, though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49295397)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:18 AM
Author: useless excitant internal respiration

There are some gems on SA if you’re willing to wade through the trash. Ideal would be to find a cute-ish 20-25 yo girl who will have sex for $500 a pop that you can see twice a month or so. There’s a lot of flakes, I suggest quickly moving conversation to “hey let’s meet up for a drink, are you free tonight?” to see if they are serious / interested or not.

Don’t talk about money / sex on the app, wait to meet up and feel things out in person. Hopefully you have a least a little game.

Also, get in shape.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49293677)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Snowy Point Private Investor

Search for the seeking arrangement poaster’s threads. All the scholarship you need.

The short version is if you are moderately good looking you’ll do great. Tell them up front you are looking for pay per meet. You will undoubtedly have some kooky situations. Ultimately, you will grow tired of it and your soul will be diminished.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49293681)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 11:21 PM
Author: flatulent pit round eye

wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49296963)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:48 AM
Author: aromatic abnormal heaven

What's ur $$$$$ situation and geography?

DESCRIBE ur terrible physique and honestly rate ur facial aesthetics and genetic makeup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49293908)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:48 AM
Author: Gold Liquid Oxygen Hall

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49293911)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 12:16 PM
Author: Aggressive Space Gaping

"Don’t want to risk hookers"

I've got some bad news about SA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49294299)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 12:54 PM
Author: useless excitant internal respiration

There’s some pros on there for sure but there’s also some college girls looking for an allowance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49294402)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 2:57 PM
Author: Aggressive Space Gaping

It is all literally sex for money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49295292)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 3:23 PM
Author: thriller brindle patrolman

They're not hookers.

They're just seeking Mutually Beneficial arrangements, tee-hee

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49295402)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 12:57 PM
Author: glittery hell

Actual professional hookers seem less risky than this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49294413)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 12:59 PM
Author: useless excitant internal respiration

How so?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49294425)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 1:18 PM
Author: glittery hell

They're not going to do something dumb like call or text you at the wrong time or go nuts on you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49294503)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 3:15 PM
Author: useless excitant internal respiration

I’d rather deal with an amateur hooker than a professional one, the pros are more likely to be sketchy, have a criminal record, drug use, poverty, STDs, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49295355)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 4:23 PM
Author: anal set

professional hookers are in business bcs they are professional, not on drugs, germ-free, take credit cards where as amateurs are all dirty druggies with std's they dont even know about, "oh that itch/rash/sore/fever, i thought it was cuz I havent showered in 5 days".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49295517)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: useless excitant internal respiration

…?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49296355)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 9:43 PM
Author: domesticated dysfunction

Do not take advice from this poaster. He is dumb.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49296572)



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Date: September 24th, 2025 12:09 AM
Author: useless excitant internal respiration

I’m speaking from experience, are you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49297045)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 3:23 PM
Author: thriller brindle patrolman

that's why you give them a burner number and not your real name.

Rookie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49295406)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 4:13 PM
Author: useless excitant internal respiration

Also this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49295494)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 1:00 PM
Author: self-centered office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49294429)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Snowy Point Private Investor

What does this sentence mean: “ start autistically getting to a surrogate activity”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49296185)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 9:26 PM
Author: useless excitant internal respiration

I think he means dedicate your life to hobbies or scholarship instead of wasting time on women

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49296383)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:55 PM
Author: self-centered office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49296940)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 11:22 PM
Author: flatulent pit round eye



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49296966)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 9:39 PM
Author: domesticated dysfunction

The time required to match/vet and potential for headaches that can come from the fake dating with SA always seemed like a big negative to me. That single non-parent dude in CO who was lining them up 3 per night and poasted all those pics and sex diaries seemed like the right way to SA. Ie it’s a tool suited to single middle aged dudes with a lot of time to search for a daddy issues Cinderella. But for a single dad with young kids it seems awful. Requires time you don’t have and energy/stress you should spare yourself. If you want to fuck a hot chick, pay over $500/hr (usually $800 in a big city), get a burner, use a fake name, set up a fake LinkedIn and treat yourself to a high end escort every once in a while. No reason that would prevent you from dating later on or concurrently, in fact I’d argue it would improve your performance because you won’t depend on dating for sex, you’ll have more time and you will be more rational in your assessments of potential long term candidates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49296544)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 11:16 PM
Author: irate shitlib

Or he can go to church and find a decent woman to date/marry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49296958)



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Date: September 24th, 2025 3:24 AM
Author: domesticated dysfunction

1) he says he doesn’t want to marry, 2) dating is very hard as a single parent with little kids, 3) the only women at church who see a single dad wrangling two kids and think to themselves “ohh I wonder if he’s single or his wife just has a stomach bug” are 300+ lbs. You’re right that mongering is a soul-rotting practice, but he’s the rare dude where the soul rot is worth the trade for the convenient access to sex with a woman who is otherwise far too attractive for him to ever have a chance with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49297191)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 9:47 PM
Author: Godawful Frisky Native

You will be amazed at how often their cars break down, family members/pets have costly medical emergencies, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49296638)



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Date: September 24th, 2025 12:51 AM
Author: thriller brindle patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49297113)



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Date: September 24th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Aggressive Space Gaping

lol, sounds ghastly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49298625)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 11:07 PM
Author: Misanthropic mewling goyim karate

SA is a huge waste of time. Just hire hookers every now and then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49296951)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 11:10 PM
Author: self-centered office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49296954)



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Date: September 24th, 2025 12:50 AM
Author: thriller brindle patrolman

It is until you get caught in a sting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49297112)



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Date: September 24th, 2025 12:03 AM
Author: cracking brunch

There is no value in this. It died the same way dating apps died. The hot chicks are on instagram and if they need extra cash post on onlyfans. The dude who posted here about SA posted a lot of 30s women. Why bother with that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49297025)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 5:03 PM
Author: Silver Parlour Crotch

SA Poaster Here...

I got into a more serious relationship with a chick I met off a dating app... We ended up having a bunch of mutual friends in common and went from there so I haven't been on SA in ages... I also started doing great on the apps (this takes a bit of time as the algo ranks you and can be frustrating/discouraging at first so be patient), so I got off SA completely.

However, for your situation I think it's fine, just use a google voice burner number and ideally don't take them to where you live until you've hooked up with them at least once and aren't getting any sketchy or crazy vibes. I only say that because you have kids. I met up with plenty of chicks straight at my house straight away, including late at night and it was fine but if I had kids I wouldn't do that.

If you search SA on here you'll get all my poasts which have quite a bit of scholarship on the matter. Ideally you find 1 or 2 you actually have some fun hanging out with who are great in bed and you just keep them on rotation whenever you're free.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49364680)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 5:44 PM
Author: sadistic friendly grandma

What kind of PPM should I be looking at for high col city?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49364751)



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Date: November 2nd, 2025 7:21 PM
Author: sooty odious place of business

WHITE MEN DONT PAY FOR SEX DURR DURR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49396314)



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Date: January 13th, 2026 6:54 PM
Author: sooty odious place of business

Reminder: nyuug isn't a Korean citizen, only has US Passport

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3466376&forum_id=2#32188261



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49587124)



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Date: January 13th, 2026 7:08 PM
Author: sooty odious place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49587194)



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Date: June 8th, 2026 12:38 AM
Author: sooty odious place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49921692)



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Date: June 8th, 2026 12:54 AM
Author: sooty odious place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49921779)



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Date: June 8th, 2026 8:00 PM
Author: sooty odious place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49923921)



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Date: June 14th, 2026 9:42 PM
Author: sooty odious place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49939211)



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Date: June 21st, 2026 5:38 PM
Author: sooty odious place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49953732)



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Date: June 21st, 2026 7:59 PM
Author: sooty odious place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49954031)



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Date: June 21st, 2026 11:39 PM
Author: sooty odious place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49954694)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 7:30 PM
Author: sooty odious place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49956506)



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Date: August 24th, 2026 5:22 PM
Author: nyuug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#50090126)



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Date: January 21st, 2026 5:33 PM
Author: sadistic friendly grandma

This is like the worst parts of dating plus still having to pay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Elisa#49607174)



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Date: January 24th, 2026 9:40 AM
Author: sadistic friendly grandma

These women are nuts

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Date: June 17th, 2026 2:03 PM
Author: thriller brindle patrolman

they also enjoy licking your nuts

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Date: June 8th, 2026 5:55 AM
Author: lake church

why not just go hunting the Bumblesauruses?

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Date: June 22nd, 2026 7:50 PM
Author: Sinister twisted quadroon community account

cq

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