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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.
apoplectic swollen heaven
  06/15/18
“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”
mischievous purple garrison macaca
  06/15/18
As I understand it.
Big-titted office
  06/15/18
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boyish black woman police squad
  06/15/18
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boyish black woman police squad
  02/12/22
they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. th...
Twisted Olive Gas Station
  06/15/18
oh we got a legal expert here
Canary fat ankles ladyboy
  10/06/21
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apoplectic swollen heaven
  02/12/22
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Coprophilia Johnny
  08/12/25
they have no debt as I understand it
Blue Vivacious Sneaky Criminal
  06/15/18
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boyish black woman police squad
  06/15/18
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primrose sickened whorehouse famous landscape painting
  06/15/18
260k is a huge salary
Blue Vivacious Sneaky Criminal
  06/15/18
goes a long way in shaker heights
emerald mediation bawdyhouse
  06/15/18
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Dun provocative shrine voyeur
  06/15/18
Cr. Thats city janitor money
boyish black woman police squad
  06/15/18
Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal ...
Painfully honest address
  06/15/18
How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 ...
big boistinker place of business
  02/12/21
It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your cha...
Heady scarlet business firm
  06/15/18
they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live ...
Twisted Olive Gas Station
  06/15/18
sounds 180
Blue Vivacious Sneaky Criminal
  06/15/18
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Dun provocative shrine voyeur
  06/15/18
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primrose sickened whorehouse famous landscape painting
  06/15/18
https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/myst...
Irradiated forum juggernaut
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boyish black woman police squad
  06/15/18
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Big-titted office
  06/15/18
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primrose sickened whorehouse famous landscape painting
  06/15/18
https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1
primrose sickened whorehouse famous landscape painting
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Heady scarlet business firm
  06/15/18
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Multi-colored Lemon Abode Death Wish
  06/15/18
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primrose sickened whorehouse famous landscape painting
  02/15/21
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Multi-colored Lemon Abode Death Wish
  10/06/21
is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 intera...
apoplectic swollen heaven
  10/06/21
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apoplectic swollen heaven
  01/18/25
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I hate being a lawyer and want to die
  08/12/25
omg 260k where do they get off
Charismatic bearded stead
  06/15/18
For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t ...
apoplectic swollen heaven
  06/15/18
p depressing news going into the weekend
Sable base
  06/15/18
Eat my dick nigger lover
apoplectic swollen heaven
  06/15/18
your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire...
Sable base
  06/15/18
Explain
apoplectic swollen heaven
  06/15/18
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apoplectic swollen heaven
  06/16/18
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apoplectic swollen heaven
  09/04/18
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Multi-colored Lemon Abode Death Wish
  06/16/18
yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put...
mauve corn cake depressive
  06/15/18
To be fair, *Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends
bull headed multi-billionaire
  06/15/18
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apoplectic swollen heaven
  02/12/21
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spectacular well-lubricated hominid hospital
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primrose sickened whorehouse famous landscape painting
  02/15/21
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apoplectic swollen heaven
  10/14/21
I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.
Bright pistol
  02/12/21
holy shit out the firm
thriller faggot firefighter
  02/12/21
or at least give us vault range. that is really low.
apoplectic swollen heaven
  02/12/21
Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
lascivious public bath sandwich
  02/12/21
it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression a...
apoplectic swollen heaven
  02/12/21
That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cr...
lascivious public bath sandwich
  02/12/21
i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.
apoplectic swollen heaven
  02/15/21
They systematically overpay top performers though. If you'r...
garnet trip stain step-uncle's house
  02/12/21
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spectacular well-lubricated hominid hospital
  02/12/21
No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an...
Bright pistol
  02/12/21
Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they ca...
garnet trip stain step-uncle's house
  02/12/21
Better partnership odds
Peach Space
  02/12/21
That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner ...
garnet trip stain step-uncle's house
  02/12/21
Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except f...
Peach Space
  02/12/21
(Stevie Brogan)
thriller faggot firefighter
  02/12/21
lol no
Diverse useless brakes resort
  02/12/21
how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Clevel...
passionate salmon therapy
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apoplectic swollen heaven
  06/29/21
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apoplectic swollen heaven
  10/06/21
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Citrine Institution Gaping
  10/06/21
that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.
razzle idiot
  10/06/21
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apoplectic swollen heaven
  02/12/22


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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: apoplectic swollen heaven

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36252934)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: mischievous purple garrison macaca

“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36252952)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: Big-titted office

As I understand it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253562)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: boyish black woman police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253586)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM
Author: boyish black woman police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#43955228)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Twisted Olive Gas Station

they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36252972)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: Canary fat ankles ladyboy

oh we got a legal expert here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#43231415)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM
Author: apoplectic swollen heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#43955203)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM
Author: Coprophilia Johnny ((zurich is stained))



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#49178217)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Blue Vivacious Sneaky Criminal

they have no debt as I understand it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36252979)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: boyish black woman police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253066)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: primrose sickened whorehouse famous landscape painting



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: Blue Vivacious Sneaky Criminal

260k is a huge salary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36252984)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: emerald mediation bawdyhouse

goes a long way in shaker heights

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36252989)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: Dun provocative shrine voyeur



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253024)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: boyish black woman police squad

Cr. Thats city janitor money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253068)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Painfully honest address

Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36252986)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: big boistinker place of business

How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41935785)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Heady scarlet business firm

It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36252995)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Twisted Olive Gas Station

they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253002)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Blue Vivacious Sneaky Criminal

sounds 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253004)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: Dun provocative shrine voyeur



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253030)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: primrose sickened whorehouse famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253696)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Irradiated forum juggernaut

https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/mysterybox.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253012)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: boyish black woman police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253073)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: Big-titted office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253597)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: primrose sickened whorehouse famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253628)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: primrose sickened whorehouse famous landscape painting

https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253692)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Heady scarlet business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253708)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: Multi-colored Lemon Abode Death Wish



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36254559)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: primrose sickened whorehouse famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41949790)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM
Author: Multi-colored Lemon Abode Death Wish



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#43231423)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: apoplectic swollen heaven

is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#43231447)



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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM
Author: apoplectic swollen heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#48564541)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#49178251)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: Charismatic bearded stead

omg 260k where do they get off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253074)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: apoplectic swollen heaven

For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253521)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: Sable base

p depressing news going into the weekend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253537)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: apoplectic swollen heaven

Eat my dick nigger lover

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253786)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Sable base

your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36254215)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: apoplectic swollen heaven

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36254517)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: apoplectic swollen heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36256523)



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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: apoplectic swollen heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36743851)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: Multi-colored Lemon Abode Death Wish



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36254823)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: mauve corn cake depressive

yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253827)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: bull headed multi-billionaire

To be fair,

*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36254339)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: apoplectic swollen heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41933386)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: spectacular well-lubricated hominid hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41933826)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: primrose sickened whorehouse famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41949789)



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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM
Author: apoplectic swollen heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#43271055)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: Bright pistol

I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41933507)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: thriller faggot firefighter

holy shit

out the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41933521)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: apoplectic swollen heaven

or at least give us vault range. that is really low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41933783)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: lascivious public bath sandwich

Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41933832)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: apoplectic swollen heaven

it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41933852)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: lascivious public bath sandwich

That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41933882)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: apoplectic swollen heaven

i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41949761)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: garnet trip stain step-uncle's house

They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41933851)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM
Author: spectacular well-lubricated hominid hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41933950)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: Bright pistol

No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41935758)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM
Author: garnet trip stain step-uncle's house

Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41935989)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM
Author: Peach Space

Better partnership odds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41935999)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM
Author: garnet trip stain step-uncle's house

That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41936016)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: Peach Space

Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41936043)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM
Author: thriller faggot firefighter

(Stevie Brogan)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41935792)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: Diverse useless brakes resort

lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41935828)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: passionate salmon therapy

how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41949811)



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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: apoplectic swollen heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#42703414)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: apoplectic swollen heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#43231403)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: Citrine Institution Gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#43231440)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: razzle idiot

that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#43231452)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: apoplectic swollen heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#43955207)