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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:03 PM Author: Outnumbered Double Fault who engages in disciplined and frequent physical activity (lifting, aerobic, recreational sports), has a good social network and frequently engages with friends and family, doesn't smoke, infrequently drinks (a few drinks per week at most), doesn't partake in drugs, is thin, maintains a reasonable diet (not talking legumes and cod every night but minimizes red meat, tries to incorporate lean meats, fish, vegetables, avoids ultraprocessed shit), is churchgoing, engages in a variety of mentally stimulating activities, is professionally busy and fulfilled, manages stress well, is in a happy marriage, and doesn't engage in any traditional high-risk behaviors (motorcycle riding, skydiving, solo plane operating, etc.), it is a reasonably safe bet that you'll get 90 years even assuming no meaningful advancements in the state of medical technology in the coming decades. Asking for a friend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244072) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:59 PM Author: Outnumbered Double Fault XO seems mighty triggered by this OP. Guessing we have a lot of unfit unhealthy bros here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244170) |
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Date: September 8th, 2025 2:00 PM Author: cerebral property Absolutely not (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49245457) |
Date: September 7th, 2025 10:07 PM Author: fiercely-loyal boiling water nursing home lolno, absolutely not, how long did your parents and grandparents live? That is a much more important question than any of the bullshit you just listed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244080) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:22 PM Author: white clown resort FUCK xo BITES to the core as always |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:25 PM Author: pink orchestra pit ceo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244094) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:25 PM Author: Onyx costumed incel stage But you have to control for all the shit he's listing above too. If grandma died at 72 but she smoked 3 packs a day that doesn't mean shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244095) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:29 PM Author: fiercely-loyal boiling water nursing home did grandma have a few teaspoons worth of microplastics in her fucking brain? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244104) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:31 PM Author: Onyx costumed incel stage You're being overly rhetorical, stop. "Microplastics" don't counterbalance some greatest gen or silent gen fag smoking packs of cigarettes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244109) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:34 PM Author: fiercely-loyal boiling water nursing home uhhhh, yeah they probably will bro and a side effect of all those cars running around constantly is a level of air quality that is basically smoking all day, you really think standing a few feet from hundreds of tailpipes amounts to nothing? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244115) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:14 PM Author: Soul-stirring cordovan heaven mexican I live out in the mountains and visit the city two days a week. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244203) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:15 PM Author: fiercely-loyal boiling water nursing home then you'll probably never die (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244207) |
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Date: September 8th, 2025 10:25 AM Author: Dun athletic conference brother you're depressed we get it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244916) |
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Date: September 8th, 2025 3:42 PM Author: bearded histrionic sex offender Cars used to pollute a lot more in our parents/grandparents era (before catalytic converters and low-emission gasoline), and the air quality used to be much worse.
Plus coal-fired factories, etc. |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:26 PM Author: bearded histrionic sex offender A lot of people's grandparents smoked like chimneys or worked in industrial factories or what have you though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244096) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:26 PM Author: Onyx costumed incel stage we're poast twins (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244097) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:27 PM Author: fiercely-loyal boiling water nursing home and you probably live in a US metro that has more plastic in the air than they could have smoked down if they literally lit rubber on fire and then breathed it in every night for heat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244101) |
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Date: September 8th, 2025 10:04 AM Author: transparent dilemma mediation My grandfather smoked heavily most of his life and still lived to 87 with no emphysema or lung cancer or serious health issues at all. Died at home in his living room. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244875) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:23 PM Author: bearded histrionic sex offender FITTER HAPPIER MORE PRODUCTIVE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244092) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:27 PM Author: razzle-dazzle rehab (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244100) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:30 PM Author: hateful lascivious location Had a feeling you’d be in here with this exact post (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244227) |
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Date: September 8th, 2025 9:46 AM Author: bearded histrionic sex offender (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244840) |
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Date: September 8th, 2025 2:35 AM Author: slippery alpha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244518) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:31 PM Author: cobalt regret filthpig red meat being bad is flame
also i cant imagine a low stress dood making this poast. being able to chill out is pretty important for health imo right behind not being fat and not smoking |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:33 PM Author: Outnumbered Double Fault Bro I'm just trying to get the XO take on how important these factors are--if you check all the "right" boxes how locked in are those 90 years. Also red meat is bad for you come on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244114) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:34 PM Author: fiercely-loyal boiling water nursing home how is your sleep with all of those obligations? Many studies suggest that sleep quality would be the second most important factor in longevity, that weird fag trying to live forever swears by it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244118) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:36 PM Author: Outnumbered Double Fault Insightful poast. Funnily enough I got on the sleep game a few years ago before then I would white knuckle through shit and prided myself on being able to go with little sleep but past few years I've focused on getting at least 7 hours a night. Particularly concerned about connection between lack of sleep and dementia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244122) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:37 PM Author: fiercely-loyal boiling water nursing home "focused on getting at least 7 hours a night" is not a good phrase to utter if you're claiming to be doing well on this count (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244125) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:38 PM Author: Outnumbered Double Fault I'm doing well on that count. I regularly get at least 7 hours. You seem to have a weird vibe ITT. Are you not doing a bunch of the shit I listed above but banking on genetics to carry you through? Or conversely starting at the barrel of bad genetics so you've said none of the other shit matters? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244129) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:40 PM Author: fiercely-loyal boiling water nursing home I get way more than 7 hours although I've never slept well so the quality is probably low, but my point is that even having to worry about not getting at least 8 means you are lacking I, personally, have a excellent genetic legacy from 3 out of 4 grandparents that made it to their 90's, but no I am planning on killing myself well before any lifestyle factors matter |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:35 PM Author: Diverse bonkers lettuce state Red meat isn’t bad for you, you stupid fuck
Also, before I engage further, is this DBG? |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:36 PM Author: Outnumbered Double Fault I'm deeply offended you suggested I'm DBG. Red meat once in a while is fine but pounding steaks (let alone processed shit like hot dogs and sausages) is gonna get you heart attacks and colon cancer. This isn't a controversial take are you a time traveler from 1989 or do you work at Hillshire Farms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244124) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:38 PM Author: Diverse bonkers lettuce state Non-denial.
Like anything, you should consume the highest quality you can readily obtain.
Pounding steaks is not going to get you heart attacks or colon cancer. Hot dogs aren’t “red meat” and neither are sausages unless you are ESL. |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:40 PM Author: Outnumbered Double Fault Brother, red meat is unequivocally bad for you. Weird hill to die on. https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/red-meat-and-colon-cancer
I'm not DBG |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:42 PM Author: fiercely-loyal boiling water nursing home brother, all nutritional "science" is complete and utter horseshit that doesn't meet any actual scientific standards, they just ask people questions and then trust them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244134) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:04 PM Author: Outnumbered Double Fault This is false and bullshit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244184) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:06 PM Author: fiercely-loyal boiling water nursing home I'm sorry but it isn't, I lived with a registered dietician for several years and they are just making shit up as they go, nothing we thought we knew about nutrition even 20 years ago was correct and nothing you think you know now is likely to be either (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244188) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:08 PM Author: Outnumbered Double Fault Brother, believe it or not, I AGREE with you that a lot of dietician / nutritionist stuff is bullshit.
But I don't agree that epidemiology / large population studies are bullshit. You're throwing the baby out with the bathwater on that. |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:09 PM Author: fiercely-loyal boiling water nursing home they 1000% are because, shocking I know, people don't even know the truth about themselves let alone are they willing to tell it same reason pyschology is a useless field, questionaires don't result in truth |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:10 PM Author: Outnumbered Double Fault k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244197) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:11 PM Author: fiercely-loyal boiling water nursing home you're welcome for the info, feel free to test it by asking disco fries what he does to remain so fit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244198) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:32 PM Author: hateful lascivious location This proves nothing. It’s some overpaid retards taking wild guesses.
How many COVID boosters did you get? |
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Date: September 8th, 2025 10:07 AM Author: transparent dilemma mediation “Unequivocally bad for you” *poasts 17 year old article*
There may be no hope for you friend |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:52 PM Author: Cocky Abode National Security Agency where does lamb fall along the lines of your snake oil nutrition science. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244145) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:05 PM Author: Outnumbered Double Fault (Paralegal Mohammed) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244185) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:27 PM Author: Soul-stirring cordovan heaven mexican (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244221) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:31 PM Author: hateful lascivious location Beef is literally the healthiest food in existence for humans. Is this entire thread flame? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244229) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:37 PM Author: Fluffy Topaz Space depends what kind of "white" ur talking about.
if your ancestry is mostly mediterranean: Spanish, Italian, Greek, Portuguese, French. Then the answer is yes.
if your ancestry is mostly Northern European: British, German, etc. Then the answer is almost definitely no.
If your ancestry is mostly Eastern European: almost definitely no.
If your ancestry is mostly Scandinavian: maybe. |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:55 PM Author: demanding hilarious stag film azn French are more like Brits than Greeks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244154) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:57 PM Author: Fluffy Topaz Space they have better odds of living long than Brits or Germans though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244159) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:53 PM Author: Cocky Abode National Security Agency You’d like to think so but cancer can strike anyone down at random for no reason. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244149) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:55 PM Author: fiercely-loyal boiling water nursing home also worth noting that exceptionally fit people tend to have heart attacks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244152) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:56 PM Author: demanding hilarious stag film azn Moderation is key I think. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244155) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:56 PM Author: Outnumbered Double Fault I don't disagree. Re-read the question though. Not asking if it's guaranteed (that would be silly). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244157) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:57 PM Author: demanding hilarious stag film azn There was some oldmo at my church today celebrating his 90th birthday. Still sings in the Choir (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244158) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:57 PM Author: Outnumbered Double Fault Let me guess he fucks men smokes cigarettes and drinks wild turkey. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244161) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:58 PM Author: fiercely-loyal boiling water nursing home do you know any 90 year olds that adhere to your regimen? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244167) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:01 PM Author: Outnumbered Double Fault Yes.
Given the responses I'm getting so far I'm guessing a lot of poasters are undisciplined and are trying to justify it away. |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:02 PM Author: fiercely-loyal boiling water nursing home no you don't (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244180) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:03 PM Author: Outnumbered Double Fault No, I do. Curious why you wouldn't think that's true / why that bothers you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244183) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:07 PM Author: fiercely-loyal boiling water nursing home it doesn't bother me but almost nobody knows any 90 year olds let alone enough to be aware of their diets and lifestyle choices throughout their entire lives, you are a lying sack of shit on this basis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244190) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:09 PM Author: Outnumbered Double Fault Holy shit the mask is off now. I have relatives who have lived this life and are in their 90s. Chill the fuck out. We get it, you don't want the premise to be true, but you're losing all credibility with some of these comments. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244193) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:10 PM Author: fiercely-loyal boiling water nursing home you refused to answer above about how long your relatives lived, odd for a guy who discusses his health plans with his 90 year old relatives and compares diets from back in the 50's to his current regime, odd indeed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244196) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:11 PM Author: Outnumbered Double Fault No I didn't "refuse" to answer I wanted the thread to play out and get people's opinions before weighing in. I didn't realize I was going to attract the "nothing matters all nutrition is a lie we're destined to die at a given age" crew and get into a bunch of subthread wastelands with you lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244199) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:13 PM Author: fiercely-loyal boiling water nursing home I didn't say all of that, but nutrition, as with most things, is a downward ladder not an upward one, you can indeed eat yourself into an early grave, you cannot eat yourself into a longer life, not being a fat pig is good, acting like your particular lifestyle is adding years is just a sad delusion because you are afraid of death, I understand but I think a man should face his fear honestly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244201) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:42 PM Author: Outnumbered Double Fault Brother, what the fuck are you talking about. Lifestyle 100% affects both longevity and quality of life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244246) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:59 PM Author: fiercely-loyal boiling water nursing home in that you can revise it downward and die young, not in that you can add anything, you more or less have a set number of heartbeats within a pretty small range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244278) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:59 PM Author: Outnumbered Double Fault Now I know you're flaming. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244280) |
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Date: September 8th, 2025 12:04 AM Author: fiercely-loyal boiling water nursing home there actually is research showing that across most animal species there is a pretty solid limitation on number of hearbeats and they are mostly pretty close together, if you've got some secret to living to 90 I would have thought there would be a large cohort of people to have taken this advice and demostrated it to be true, I just strongly suspect you're going to die at a normal time like everyone else (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244289) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:59 PM Author: demanding hilarious stag film azn Seems to be a normal guy who lived to 90. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244171) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 10:58 PM Author: dashing step-uncle's house kitty You’ll have your first minor heart attack at 57 and then drop dead of a widowmaker three days after being discharged. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244166) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:15 PM Author: hateful lascivious location Genetics are the only thing that matters in any field of human endeavor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244206) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: appetizing pocket flask indirect expression you're insane if you want to live to 90 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244224) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: hateful lascivious location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244226) |
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Date: September 7th, 2025 11:33 PM Author: spruce crusty deer antler university It doesn't seem like living past 85 is credited.
Anything past 80 is just a slew of health problems FOR MOST. |
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Date: September 8th, 2025 1:29 AM Author: Cocky Abode National Security Agency My dad is 82 and hasn’t had any significant health problems aside from knee injuries that were from an accident (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5770789&forum_id=2Elisa#49244477) |
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Date: September 8th, 2025 10:23 AM Author: big-titted center windowlicker It increases the odds.
I come from this class and watching my parents and their friends who tick most if not all of these boxes, yes, it seems like you can reasonably bet on making it into your 90s. Especially the women.
On the other hand, you can't rule out getting pawned by alzheimers or dementia or Parkinsons. My father has PSP, a variation of the latter, and unlike both his parents and all four of his grandparents, he will not make it to his 90s, let alone his 80s.
Life is crapshoot but you can certainly help the odds by doing what you outlined.
Will also comment that there comes a threshold where it seems less like living but a form of imprisonment. We envision being the sharp and fit 90 year old person but odds are equally good you'll be 90 and fading and only half there and every step is painful in its own way and you linger this way for the next five years increasingly incoherent and insensible. There's no calculator or lifestyle regime to aid you with tilting the odds either way. |
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Date: September 8th, 2025 10:25 AM Author: hairraiser unhinged toilet seat the frontline about this is horrifying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMDsUdhymbQ |