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Libs you’re fucking dead after Trump wins again. You hear me? Dead.

Open season on you vermin starts 11/4.
Lime Coffee Pot Twinkling Uncleanness
  07/05/20
what if it goes the other way?
stubborn twisted newt dysfunction
  07/05/20
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Hyperventilating public bath
  07/13/21
tbf, ur already dead inside, a weird Dem talking point spamm...
Spectacular Disrespectful Center
  07/13/21
😂 tell me more about your bamboo audits
Hyperventilating public bath
  07/13/21
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Razzmatazz trump supporter
  07/13/21
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hot maroon idiot garrison
  01/18/22
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Razzmatazz trump supporter
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stubborn twisted newt dysfunction
  06/24/22
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Lime Coffee Pot Twinkling Uncleanness
  08/26/23
lmao
Pearl Space
  08/26/23
“We posted so many don’t tread on us flags and p...
Slimy Bespoke Chapel
  08/26/23
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Pearl Space
  08/26/23
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hideous market
  08/26/23
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Lime Coffee Pot Twinkling Uncleanness
  12/08/23
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Sick yellow degenerate whorehouse
  12/08/23
even more so now
Jade locale
  12/08/23
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Sable Love Of Her Life
  05/30/24
again, again you mean
Bateful Double Fault Place Of Business
  05/30/24
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onyx son of senegal codepig
  05/31/24
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ungodly heaven
  07/13/24
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Sick yellow degenerate whorehouse
  07/13/24
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cream stag film
  07/15/24
when Trump trains?
charcoal ladyboy corner
  07/15/24
Where are we on this?
stubborn twisted newt dysfunction
  08/02/24
I think they’re talking about 2028. But won’t Tr...
Sick yellow degenerate whorehouse
  08/02/24
I hear the NY Prison System has great medical care. He'll b...
misunderstood heady telephone
  10/10/24
you're a stupid faggot
godawful theatre indirect expression
  10/11/24
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massive appetizing tanning salon
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Magenta Soggy Circlehead Weed Whacker
  10/10/24
Libs didn't do much with their four-year reprieve, did they
Henna At-the-ready Sneaky Criminal Coldplay Fan
  10/10/24
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Fragrant painfully honest institution haunted graveyard
  10/11/24
hey bitch boi OP, suck my fucking dick
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  10/11/24
OP here, we’re going to gut you like a fish and nail y...
sapphire beady-eyed potus pozpig
  10/11/24
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dark sadistic incel kitty cat
  10/12/24
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charcoal ladyboy corner
  10/12/24
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wonderful fat ankles
  10/12/24
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Chest-beating Lilac Ape Business Firm
  11/01/24
Competence is king
Razzmatazz trump supporter
  11/18/24
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Irradiated olive native
  02/10/25
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Exciting fluffy private investor forum
  11/01/24
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cream stag film
  11/04/24
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Learning disabled cerebral shrine kitty
  11/05/24
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Sick yellow degenerate whorehouse
  11/05/24
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copper home party of the first part
  11/11/24
Pretty much everyone in the US is a lib fwiw This said, two...
bonkers carmine generalized bond university
  11/11/24
Very thoughtful moderate take
copper home party of the first part
  11/11/24
I don't think that's a controversial statement and it's basi...
bonkers carmine generalized bond university
  11/11/24
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mahogany meetinghouse
  11/18/24
know three(3) libs who've already killtself after the result...
sickened fear-inspiring sound barrier
  11/18/24
18000
mahogany meetinghouse
  11/18/24
there's not a day that passes by here in Brussels, when an E...
Shimmering principal's office
  11/18/24
but you agree libs need to die right?
nofapping green senate pervert
  11/18/24
I say this as an American, born and raised: Donald Trump and...
Shimmering principal's office
  11/18/24
lol fag, how do you think American democracy actually worked...
nofapping green senate pervert
  11/18/24
the great American men who invented freedom for the world--J...
Shimmering principal's office
  11/18/24
you have a five year old's notion of history
nofapping green senate pervert
  11/18/24
in Plato's Republic, there is a tribute to philosophy (love ...
Shimmering principal's office
  11/18/24
the one where he basically endorsed the government of Sparta...
nofapping green senate pervert
  11/18/24
Fascism wins, and yeah Plato was a fascist, ergo Trump is a ...
Shimmering principal's office
  11/18/24
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Misanthropic Halford
  01/10/25
Here comes the pain
Lime Coffee Pot Twinkling Uncleanness
  01/20/25
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avocado out-of-control shitlib
  02/10/25
Your two dads? DEAD. Your polycule? DEAD. Your DEI Departmen...
Slap-happy Plum Church
  02/10/25
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Irradiated olive native
  02/10/25
hi kikearoni
Slap-happy Plum Church
  02/10/25
Sup. Fuck kikes.
Irradiated olive native
  02/10/25
keep killing kikes kek
Slap-happy Plum Church
  02/10/25
180
Irradiated olive native
  02/10/25
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!
passionate impressive roast beef macaca
  02/10/25
Funny thing is, OP (Drake Mallard aka Voodoo Child) is still...
misunderstood heady telephone
  02/10/25
...
Lime Coffee Pot Twinkling Uncleanness
  03/03/25
Updates?
Slimy Bespoke Chapel
  03/03/25
Where are we with this?
Motley bawdyhouse nowag
  03/03/25
you're posting here. you are worse than dead.
peeface
  10/27/25
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  10/27/25


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Date: July 5th, 2020 11:15 AM
Author: Lime Coffee Pot Twinkling Uncleanness

Open season on you vermin starts 11/4.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#40549948)



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Date: July 5th, 2020 11:27 AM
Author: stubborn twisted newt dysfunction

what if it goes the other way?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#40549972)



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Date: July 13th, 2021 10:08 AM
Author: Hyperventilating public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#42773844)



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Date: July 13th, 2021 10:15 AM
Author: Spectacular Disrespectful Center

tbf, ur already dead inside, a weird Dem talking point spammer lunatic who pathologically hates blacks but votes in lockstep with them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#42773876)



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Date: July 13th, 2021 10:18 AM
Author: Hyperventilating public bath

😂 tell me more about your bamboo audits

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#42773889)



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Date: July 13th, 2021 10:12 AM
Author: Razzmatazz trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#42773857)



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Date: January 18th, 2022 9:36 AM
Author: hot maroon idiot garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#43802724)



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Date: January 18th, 2022 11:39 AM
Author: Razzmatazz trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#43803351)



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Date: June 24th, 2022 9:49 PM
Author: stubborn twisted newt dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#44739407)



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Date: August 26th, 2023 5:20 PM
Author: Lime Coffee Pot Twinkling Uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#46718856)



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Date: August 26th, 2023 5:56 PM
Author: Pearl Space

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#46718957)



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Date: August 26th, 2023 6:21 PM
Author: Slimy Bespoke Chapel

“We posted so many don’t tread on us flags and pictures of ar-15s with ominous quotes, why aren’t they afraid of us?!?!?”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#46719033)



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Date: August 26th, 2023 6:23 PM
Author: Pearl Space



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#46719041)



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Date: August 26th, 2023 6:25 PM
Author: hideous market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#46719046)



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Date: December 8th, 2023 10:45 AM
Author: Lime Coffee Pot Twinkling Uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#47147273)



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Date: December 8th, 2023 10:45 AM
Author: Sick yellow degenerate whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#47147275)



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Date: December 8th, 2023 10:48 AM
Author: Jade locale

even more so now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#47147287)



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Date: May 30th, 2024 7:57 PM
Author: Sable Love Of Her Life



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Date: May 30th, 2024 7:58 PM
Author: Bateful Double Fault Place Of Business

again, again you mean

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#47705492)



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Date: May 31st, 2024 1:00 PM
Author: onyx son of senegal codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#47707445)



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Date: May 31st, 2024 11:30 AM
Author: Duck-like theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#47707214)



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Date: June 1st, 2024 3:36 PM
Author: brindle galvanic legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#47710626)



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Date: June 28th, 2024 4:55 PM
Author: stimulating silver menage selfie



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Date: July 13th, 2024 7:17 PM
Author: ungodly heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#47838383)



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Date: July 13th, 2024 7:17 PM
Author: Sick yellow degenerate whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#47838389)



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Date: July 15th, 2024 9:19 AM
Author: cream stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#47845824)



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Date: July 15th, 2024 9:45 AM
Author: charcoal ladyboy corner

when Trump trains?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#47845871)



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Date: August 2nd, 2024 2:16 PM
Author: stubborn twisted newt dysfunction

Where are we on this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#47921695)



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Date: August 2nd, 2024 2:17 PM
Author: Sick yellow degenerate whorehouse

I think they’re talking about 2028. But won’t Trump be 82 at that point? Doesn’t seem likely.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#47921699)



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Date: October 10th, 2024 10:24 AM
Author: misunderstood heady telephone

I hear the NY Prison System has great medical care. He'll be fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48183602)



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Date: October 11th, 2024 11:00 PM
Author: godawful theatre indirect expression

you're a stupid faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48189046)



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Date: October 10th, 2024 10:12 AM
Author: massive appetizing tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48183559)



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Date: October 10th, 2024 1:32 PM
Author: Magenta Soggy Circlehead Weed Whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48184212)



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Date: October 10th, 2024 1:32 PM
Author: Henna At-the-ready Sneaky Criminal Coldplay Fan

Libs didn't do much with their four-year reprieve, did they

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48184215)



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Date: October 11th, 2024 10:30 PM
Author: Fragrant painfully honest institution haunted graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48188974)



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Date: October 11th, 2024 10:45 PM
Author: translucent lay bbw

hey bitch boi OP, suck my fucking dick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48189003)



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Date: October 11th, 2024 10:59 PM
Author: sapphire beady-eyed potus pozpig

OP here, we’re going to gut you like a fish and nail your rotting corpse to the Washington Monument hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48189043)



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Date: October 12th, 2024 2:09 PM
Author: dark sadistic incel kitty cat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48190421)



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Date: October 12th, 2024 2:16 PM
Author: charcoal ladyboy corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48190451)



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Date: October 12th, 2024 3:55 PM
Author: wonderful fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48190778)



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Date: November 1st, 2024 4:11 PM
Author: Chest-beating Lilac Ape Business Firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48268795)



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Date: November 18th, 2024 6:41 PM
Author: Razzmatazz trump supporter

Competence is king

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48353613)



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Date: February 10th, 2025 9:47 PM
Author: Irradiated olive native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48644510)



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Date: November 1st, 2024 4:04 PM
Author: Exciting fluffy private investor forum



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Date: November 4th, 2024 12:54 AM
Author: cream stag film



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Date: November 5th, 2024 10:19 PM
Author: Learning disabled cerebral shrine kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48292549)



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Date: November 5th, 2024 10:19 PM
Author: Sick yellow degenerate whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48292553)



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Date: November 11th, 2024 9:23 AM
Author: copper home party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48321701)



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Date: November 11th, 2024 9:27 AM
Author: bonkers carmine generalized bond university

Pretty much everyone in the US is a lib fwiw

This said, two more more cycles and some key wins in the EU for the right and we may be able to change that if that's the direction the nation needs to heal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48321707)



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Date: November 11th, 2024 9:29 AM
Author: copper home party of the first part

Very thoughtful moderate take

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48321709)



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Date: November 11th, 2024 9:35 AM
Author: bonkers carmine generalized bond university

I don't think that's a controversial statement and it's basically one that's underpinned the whole "frog in water" talking point that's defined no small part of actual right wing discourse for a bit over a decade now

I am moderate on a lot of key issues but there's obviously something very wrong going on with the Progressive establishment that needs to be balanced out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48321716)



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Date: November 18th, 2024 5:02 PM
Author: mahogany meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48353253)



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Date: November 18th, 2024 5:04 PM
Author: sickened fear-inspiring sound barrier

know three(3) libs who've already killtself after the results. They knew what was coming and wanted an early exit. they were the smart ones. #MAGA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48353256)



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Date: November 18th, 2024 5:13 PM
Author: mahogany meetinghouse

18000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48353286)



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Date: November 18th, 2024 6:15 PM
Author: Shimmering principal's office

there's not a day that passes by here in Brussels, when an European friend or coworker doesn't express deep condolences or ask how I am handling the death of democracy in my country--on account of the rise of the dictator: I just stare blankly at them and say all good things must come to an end, and we had a good run

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48353524)



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Date: November 18th, 2024 6:16 PM
Author: nofapping green senate pervert

but you agree libs need to die right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48353528)



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Date: November 18th, 2024 6:18 PM
Author: Shimmering principal's office

I say this as an American, born and raised: Donald Trump and Liberal Democracy so envisaged by the Founders are mutually incompatible -- a new republic is being stillborn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48353531)



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Date: November 18th, 2024 6:21 PM
Author: nofapping green senate pervert

lol fag, how do you think American democracy actually worked this whole time? You're idealizing like 10 years at the start and excusing the recent past for just being how things are. Some guy talking shit is not unusual

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48353536)



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Date: November 18th, 2024 6:24 PM
Author: Shimmering principal's office

the great American men who invented freedom for the world--Jefferson, Lincoln, FDR--- it ended there, Trump ended the dream

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48353548)



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Date: November 18th, 2024 6:26 PM
Author: nofapping green senate pervert

you have a five year old's notion of history

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48353554)



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Date: November 18th, 2024 6:29 PM
Author: Shimmering principal's office

in Plato's Republic, there is a tribute to philosophy (love of knowledge) born in the sense of wonder: a child's wonder-- Trump killed the child forever more

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48353561)



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Date: November 18th, 2024 6:30 PM
Author: nofapping green senate pervert

the one where he basically endorsed the government of Sparta?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48353567)



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Date: November 18th, 2024 6:35 PM
Author: Shimmering principal's office

Fascism wins, and yeah Plato was a fascist, ergo Trump is a Platonist. Huzzah!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48353589)



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Date: January 10th, 2025 10:41 AM
Author: Misanthropic Halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48539575)



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Date: January 20th, 2025 2:11 PM
Author: Lime Coffee Pot Twinkling Uncleanness

Here comes the pain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48570140)



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Date: February 10th, 2025 9:38 PM
Author: avocado out-of-control shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48644473)



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Date: February 10th, 2025 9:41 PM
Author: Slap-happy Plum Church

Your two dads? DEAD. Your polycule? DEAD. Your DEI Department? DEAD.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48644489)



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Date: February 10th, 2025 9:47 PM
Author: Irradiated olive native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48644508)



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Date: February 10th, 2025 9:58 PM
Author: Slap-happy Plum Church

hi kikearoni

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48644533)



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Date: February 10th, 2025 10:00 PM
Author: Irradiated olive native

Sup. Fuck kikes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48644539)



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Date: February 10th, 2025 10:02 PM
Author: Slap-happy Plum Church

keep killing kikes kek

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48644546)



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Date: February 10th, 2025 10:06 PM
Author: Irradiated olive native

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48644560)



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Date: February 10th, 2025 10:14 PM
Author: passionate impressive roast beef macaca

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48644595)



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Date: February 10th, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: misunderstood heady telephone

Funny thing is, OP (Drake Mallard aka Voodoo Child) is still a poor deranged freak. I'm wealthier than ever. Nothing happened except Trump is cutting off free shit to red states. Now the prole motherfuckers are gonna actually need to work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48644601)



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Date: March 3rd, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: Lime Coffee Pot Twinkling Uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48709405)



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Date: March 3rd, 2025 9:19 AM
Author: Slimy Bespoke Chapel

Updates?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#48709452)



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Date: March 3rd, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: Motley bawdyhouse nowag

Where are we with this?

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Date: October 27th, 2025 2:40 AM
Author: peeface

you're posting here. you are worse than dead.



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Date: October 27th, 2025 1:54 AM
Author: dr. heiter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576993&forum_id=2Elisa#49377912)