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Date: October 6th, 2018 12:50 PM Author: Zombie-like Set Psychic Is that what's happening here? Odd that the amount of inheritance money he copped to obtaining fraudulently is exactly equal to the amount Trump Org spent on all cash property acquisitions in the early 2010s, when Eric Trump was talking about the "guys in Russia" who were helping them scoop up golf courses. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36972245) |
Date: October 6th, 2018 12:56 PM Author: harsh 180 kitty location What (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36972272) |
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Date: October 6th, 2018 1:06 PM Author: Zombie-like Set Psychic Last week the NYT reported that it received "100,000" confidential alleged Trump financial records that purportedly showed that Trump boosted his fortune by $400M through garden variety estate planning fraud. Conveniently, that is exactly how much Trumps company spent on all cash property acquisitions in the 9 years before he ran for president. His son Eric explained at the time that although American banks wouldnt give them any money, they get "all we need" from "guys in Russia."
In the nine years before he ran for president, Donald Trump’s company spent more than $400 million in cash on new properties — including 14 transactions paid for in full, without borrowing from banks — during a buying binge that defied real estate industry practices and Trump’s own history as the self-described “King of Debt.”
Trump’s vast outlay of cash, tracked through public records and totaled publicly here for the first time, provides a new window into the president’s private company, which discloses few details about its finances.
It shows that Trump had access to far more cash than previously known, despite his string of commercial bankruptcies and the Great Recession’s hammering of the real estate industry. |
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Date: October 6th, 2018 12:57 PM Author: Tripping territorial resort son of senegal Don't care. Libs should read the boy who cried wolf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36972277) |
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Date: October 6th, 2018 1:01 PM Author: indigo disturbing masturbator That is a racist narrative (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36972303) |
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Date: October 6th, 2018 1:10 PM Author: Zombie-like Set Psychic Explain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36972357) |
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Date: October 6th, 2018 1:13 PM Author: magical national security agency temple cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36972365) |
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Date: October 6th, 2018 1:19 PM Author: Glittery vengeful headpube (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36972424) |
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Date: October 6th, 2018 1:20 PM Author: French keepsake machete plaza (guy criticizing Clinton Foundation with a straight face) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36972437) |
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Date: October 6th, 2018 1:30 PM Author: Floppy Therapy what product exactly did they provide? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36972493) |
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Date: October 6th, 2018 2:06 PM Author: Zombie-like Set Psychic Huge Clinton hater but not sure that the nature of a criminal enterprise's business has any bearing on its culpability (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36972597) |
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Date: October 6th, 2018 1:03 PM Author: mildly autistic generalized bond principal's office lol, you surely got him now! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36972317) |
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Date: October 6th, 2018 1:16 PM Author: Zombie-like Set Psychic I'm not on one of the half dozen grand juries looking into him and his criminal children, so no, "I" don't have him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36972394) |
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Date: November 27th, 2019 12:23 PM Author: mildly autistic generalized bond principal's office Where are we on this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#39181428) |
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Date: September 16th, 2021 10:47 PM Author: galvanic obsidian international law enforcement agency kitchen Update? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#43129310) |
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Date: October 6th, 2018 1:17 PM Author: Violet Vigorous Milk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36972408) |
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Date: October 6th, 2018 1:17 PM Author: cream startled institution philosopher-king *Western PA factory workers crying into their beers, wailing "not Vnesheconombank!", shamefully discarding their MAGA hats* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36972405) |
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Date: October 6th, 2018 1:31 PM Author: Zombie-like Set Psychic Needs to worry more about DC grand jurors (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36972495) |
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Date: October 8th, 2018 9:57 AM Author: Glittery vengeful headpube lol nigger jury (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36983725) |
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Date: October 8th, 2018 10:15 AM Author: Zombie-like Set Psychic I don't think you know what a grand jury is, Boris (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36983829) |
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Date: October 6th, 2018 1:18 PM Author: Swashbuckling scarlet pozpig depressive Dumb angle. The NY Times report comports with what Timothy O'Brien has said (Bloomberg reporter and Trump biographer who prevailed in defamation suit brought by Trump). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36972419) |
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Date: October 6th, 2018 1:20 PM Author: Cowardly titillating house rigor 10 rubles for you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36972431) |
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Date: October 6th, 2018 1:30 PM Author: Zombie-like Set Psychic What exactly are you claiming the defamation litigation proved and was corroborated in the NYT story? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36972490) |
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Date: October 6th, 2018 1:36 PM Author: Swashbuckling scarlet pozpig depressive 1) The NY Times story isn't some random statement from a confidential source. It's a review of a boatload of public documents (and some confidential) that tell a story of how Trump received the bulk of his father's empire. This isn't a manufactured leak.
2) O'Brien has discussed the source and probable value of Trump's empire. |
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Date: October 6th, 2018 1:47 PM Author: Zombie-like Set Psychic Okay so you can't explain what O'Briens litigation proved that was corroborated here.
As for the NYT story, stopped reading 1,000 words in, after it became clear thAt these "100,000" confidential documents they allegedly reviewed showed nothing worse than garden variety (unprosecutable) estate planning fraud. But tell me: where do you think the NYT got these secret docs? And is it odd to you that this unprosecutable tax fraud allegedly yielded $400M, providing a neat (exact) explanation for the provenance of the $400M that Trump used on ALL CASH property acquisitions from 2007-2015? |
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Date: October 6th, 2018 2:55 PM Author: Zombie-like Set Psychic Reminder: Trump won't finish his term (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36972866) |
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Date: October 6th, 2018 2:59 PM Author: filthy stage digit ratio we should all definitely put stock in this post after you correctly called the 2016 election (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36972899) |
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Date: July 10th, 2019 6:16 PM Author: arousing brindle locus affirmative action Thanks for the reminder, my nig! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#38511696) |
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Date: October 6th, 2018 2:58 PM Author: Insanely Creepy Senate Yep, Trump admitted to that. Good work, WLMAS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36972893) |
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Date: October 6th, 2018 3:00 PM Author: filthy stage digit ratio *wlmas pushes childrens bubble blower lawnmower across lawn* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36972911) |
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Date: October 6th, 2018 5:04 PM Author: Zombie-like Set Psychic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36974040) |
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Date: October 6th, 2018 5:17 PM Author: filthy stage digit ratio http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2#36972899 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36974129) |
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Date: October 7th, 2018 12:46 PM Author: Zombie-like Set Psychic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36979008) |
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Date: October 8th, 2018 10:58 AM Author: shaky maize crackhouse Before the election this would have had traction. The public dgaf at this point. I guess that's why you spend 2 and a half years undercutting the media. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36984048) |
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Date: October 8th, 2018 11:02 AM Author: Zombie-like Set Psychic This is wrong but also irrelevant because the public doesn't vote on grand jury indictments (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36984068) |
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Date: October 8th, 2018 11:04 AM Author: Zombie-like Set Psychic Also, the retarded media has been Trumps biggest ally. When have you heard "Vnesheconombank" in a CNN broadcast? You think Jake Tapper gives a fuck about money laundering or just wants to do his Avenatti segment and go home? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4099581&forum_id=2Elisa#36984081) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2019 9:42 PM Author: self-absorbed dashing site trump supporter lol @ the deranged lib mind tripping on Trump Derangement Syndrome.
It’s somehow convenient that a NYT hitpiece claimed that Trump gained $400MM from “fraud” and that Trump’s company spent “over $400MM” (so not the same amount) over a nine year period (lol at this arbitrary timeframe).
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