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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM Author: Umber trailer park Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36252934) |
Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM Author: doobsian associate “I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36252952) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM Author: Cream piazza bbw As I understand it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253562) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM Author: drab chest-beating brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253586) |
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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM Author: drab chest-beating brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#43955228) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM Author: bonkers spruce university alpha they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36252972) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM Author: provocative gas station roommate oh we got a legal expert here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#43231415) |
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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM Author: Umber trailer park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#43955203) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM Author: Coprophilia Johnny ((zurich is stained)) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#49178217) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM Author: pink generalized bond theatre they have no debt as I understand it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36252979) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM Author: drab chest-beating brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253066) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM Author: aromatic yarmulke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253623) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM Author: pink generalized bond theatre 260k is a huge salary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36252984) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM Author: Disturbing mustard giraffe goes a long way in shaker heights (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36252989) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM Author: vivacious crackhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253024) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM Author: drab chest-beating brunch Cr. Thats city janitor money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253068) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM Author: rambunctious lilac school cafeteria Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36252986) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM Author: Bipolar citrine business firm nowag How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41935785) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM Author: glittery scourge upon the earth It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36252995) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM Author: bonkers spruce university alpha they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253002) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM Author: aromatic yarmulke https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253692) |
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM Author: aromatic yarmulke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41949790) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM Author: Umber trailer park is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#43231447) |
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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM Author: Umber trailer park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#48564541) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#49178251) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM Author: aphrodisiac out-of-control macaca step-uncle's house omg 260k where do they get off (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253074) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM Author: Umber trailer park For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253521) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM Author: purple slap-happy site national security agency p depressing news going into the weekend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253537) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM Author: Umber trailer park Eat my dick nigger lover (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253786) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM Author: purple slap-happy site national security agency your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36254215) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM Author: Umber trailer park Explain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36254517) |
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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM Author: Umber trailer park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36256523) |
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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM Author: Umber trailer park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36743851) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM Author: histrionic red cumskin lodge yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#36253827) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM Author: Exhilarant National Legend To be fair,
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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM Author: Umber trailer park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41933386) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM Author: mauve electric roast beef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41933826) |
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM Author: aromatic yarmulke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41949789) |
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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM Author: Umber trailer park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#43271055) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM Author: Wonderful Orchid Organic Girlfriend I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41933507) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM Author: Hairraiser parlor therapy holy shit
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM Author: Umber trailer park or at least give us vault range. that is really low. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41933783) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM Author: Adulterous Home Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM Author: Umber trailer park it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41933852) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM Author: Adulterous Home That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41933882) |
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM Author: Umber trailer park i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41949761) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM Author: white razzle-dazzle mental disorder They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41933851) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM Author: mauve electric roast beef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41933950) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM Author: Wonderful Orchid Organic Girlfriend No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41935758) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM Author: white razzle-dazzle mental disorder Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41935989) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM Author: Chestnut startling nibblets Better partnership odds (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41935999) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM Author: white razzle-dazzle mental disorder That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41936016) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM Author: Chestnut startling nibblets Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41936043) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM Author: Arousing space lol no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41935828) |
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM Author: Azure Twinkling Uncleanness Locus how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#41949811) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM Author: Supple Dun Stage Private Investor that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Elisa#43231452) |
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