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Audi V8 engine design is pure shit
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Date: July 25th, 2023 1:06 AM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven Right here the guy pops off the timing chain cover and you can see what a horrendous mess VW created. There are no less than four chains there:
https://youtu.be/r2DWShxuPcU?t=156
Here's where he explains the problem in his own words:
https://youtu.be/r2DWShxuPcU?t=1204
Audimos: why is the chain guide made out of plastic? |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 2:36 PM Author: mischievous flushed rigpig They would have do 20 timing chains if it would move things 1cm forward in the chasis. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46588600) |
Date: July 25th, 2023 1:12 AM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven https://youtu.be/DjPQZLHIKEE?t=380 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46586896) |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 1:18 AM Author: marvelous ocher whorehouse marketing idea What’s a car with a reliable timing chain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46586911) |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 1:21 AM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven The 4-cyl in the Camry and the V6 in the Avalon. I prefer belts though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46586918) |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 2:00 PM Author: impressive trailer park elastic band Chains are better. They have to be done right though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46588476) |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 2:07 PM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven Belts are lighter and quieter and it's easy to stay on top of them and keep them fresh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46588490) |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 2:10 PM Author: impressive trailer park elastic band Whatever hoss. With a belt done right you replace one at 100k miles and never think about it again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46588502) |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 2:13 PM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven Yeah, you can do it at 100k intervals, but you can also visually inspect it to see what's up. Why can't these Eurocucks use timing chains without plastic guides? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46588516) |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 2:19 PM Author: Wine pit A proper chain never needs to be replaced. A belt will have to be replaced and if it goes early will destroy the engine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46588539) |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 3:21 PM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven Yes, but that's a very easy problem to avoid. It's more a benefit for women who don't know how to maintain a car. Belts are only catastrophic if the water pump starts dumping water on it and for some reason you don't notice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46588843) |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 3:23 PM Author: Wine pit Why would you choose to make a part replaceable instead of lifetime? A tiny savings in weight? Come on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46588871) |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 3:58 PM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven Quieter and I can service it myself. I don't mind chains on a Toyota since I know they are designed right, but notice that they put a belt on that Lexus V8. That's engine is so quiet and vibration free its certified for use in airplanes. How many V-engines are that smooth?
Honda also uses belts and they are the biggest engine maker on earth. |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 4:00 PM Author: Silver brunch reading party Which Lexus v8 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46589024) |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 4:01 PM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven 1uz. From Wikipedia:
The FV2400-2TC derivative is one of the few road-going engines that is FAA approved for use in an airplane. |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 11:27 PM Author: Silver brunch reading party Interesting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46590868) |
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Date: July 26th, 2023 11:35 AM Author: Wine pit 4.4L BMW V8s have timing chains and are quiet and refined. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46592237) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2023 2:49 PM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven Maybe this is atypical, but it was the timing cog that failed and destroyed this engine. The teeth were ground off and the metal fragments did the rest.
https://youtu.be/nqu7B8DPi_o |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 6:19 AM Author: Elite salmon quadroon parlor 4 cylinder Honda Accord (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46587230) |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 6:13 AM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven What the hell? Ford let Stockton Rush design an engine and he put the timing belt INSIDE the crank case.
https://youtu.be/0yx1-50iqnA |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 6:40 AM Author: Elite salmon quadroon parlor Lmao Audi V10 twin turbo diesel is SPS, too.
My neighbor bought one once for $20k after asking me for advice, which was the exact opposite of "buy a complicated V10." Within 6 months, I found a MASSIVE oil puddle under his engine, so I told him as much and he took it in for service. I told him to get rid of i; the Toyota Dealership doing the repairs under warranty didn't have the expertise. He didn't listen. It broke down again after less than. A month |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 8:08 AM Author: Insanely Creepy Sanctuary Antidepressant Drug whoa cr friend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46587370) |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 11:01 AM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven Jesus. It's the same
https://youtu.be/AMj5bIRqiLE?t=1020 |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 1:54 PM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven Oh god why is the V6 like this too? I see moar PLASTIC.
https://youtu.be/15aT-wxMkJA?t=880 |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 4:00 PM Author: Silver brunch reading party The 3.2 was garbage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46589022) |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 7:05 PM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven Lemme guess: VW never made anything bigger than 5cyl that wasn't pure shit, unless you count whatever they put in the 911. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46589675) |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 11:21 PM Author: Silver brunch reading party The supercharged 3.0 was pretty good (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46590854) |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 1:58 PM Author: Gaped Round Eye Newt It just has to last 4 years / 50K miles. Then its not the manufacturer's problem or the dealer's problem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46588467) |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 1:59 PM Author: impressive trailer park elastic band If you think this is bad -- to escape their bad head gasket problems Subaru decided to abandon gaskets in favour of caulk. The engine on the Crosstrek is literally caulked together. At the 10-12 year mark the caulk dries out and cracks and the engine dies.
At this point -- just get a Toyota. Everything else is shit. |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 2:20 PM Author: Wine pit I've never liked a car Toyota made. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46588540) |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 3:24 PM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven Yeah see below: Land Rover/Jaguar use some kind of caulk too. Moreover it looks like they use two different compounds, or mechanics are using different compounds to re-seal them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46588874) |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 2:07 PM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven Jaguar/Land Rover bros looking slightly more sane but still NOT an engine I'd want to be responsible for. Why so much plastic?
https://youtu.be/0MUHCvskzOQ?t=1687 |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 2:18 PM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven Look at the Stockton Rush job on the sealant:
https://youtu.be/0MUHCvskzOQ?t=2682 |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 3:21 PM Author: Excitant Primrose School it's 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46588846) |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 3:22 PM Author: Insanely Creepy Sanctuary Antidepressant Drug Audis have always been ttt trash (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46588866) |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 5:02 PM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven Magic all up in this bitch:
https://youtu.be/i5p0uqIh708?t=322 |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 7:35 PM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven I'm actually surprised to see plastic chain guides in this engine too, though tbf it's only used on the surface. Audi made the whole chain guide out of plastic. Audi tensioner system looks busted too compared to these Ford doohickeys. These Crown Vic engines are so easy to work on. The dumbest people in America can do it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46589834) |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 7:53 PM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven Now this is what a well engineered European car engine looks like. I think this engine was the best engine Volvo ever made. Maybe not as durable as the 4 in the 240, but performance-wise the two were incomparable. Work of art.
https://youtu.be/ayQO5-ft9WI |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 11:51 PM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven 2JZ. poor thing. I haven't finished the video yet so I don't know what happened to it. u know it's getting rebuilt though.
https://youtu.be/Nqc-tX8JXYY?t=598 |
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Date: July 25th, 2023 11:55 PM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven Jesus, the inside looks like whatever was in that suitcase in Pulp Fiction. How fucking gorgeous is that engine?
https://youtu.be/Nqc-tX8JXYY?t=736 |
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Date: July 26th, 2023 1:49 AM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven Unnngh. BMW equivalent. Unnnngh so cr. I'm seeing lots of plastic though.
https://youtu.be/HJwR94-WNAc?t=150 |
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Date: July 26th, 2023 1:54 AM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven Oh shit it was the plastic chain guides again.
https://youtu.be/HJwR94-WNAc?t=409
Eurocucks what gives? Why make the entire chain guide out of one piece of plastic? |
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Date: July 26th, 2023 2:06 AM Author: crawly white international law enforcement agency Never understood why anyone would get Audi over MB or BMW, but especially the V8 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46591370) |
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Date: July 26th, 2023 2:14 AM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven Yeah I think you have to wonder about carmakers even making engines that size. Honda has a strict "no V8s, not ever" rule. For them it was shameful to even have to put a V6 in the NSX. They would have done it with a four if they could. I don't know who buy's their V6s anymore. The Odysee and Ridgline and a few Acuras?
I see Audi the same way. It's either a 4cyl or a monstrosity. |
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Date: July 26th, 2023 3:13 AM Author: crawly white international law enforcement agency This is why I stopped taking Toyota's "racing" division seriously. They are only able to make cars go fast by using a huge ass engine. Pathetic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46591441) |
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Date: July 26th, 2023 1:00 PM Author: Floppy casino because bmw has a horrible striver stigma. audis are more understated umc. mb is too flashy for wasps. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46592652) |
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Date: July 26th, 2023 3:14 PM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven BMW inline sixes make sense IMO. There's no other option if you want a straight six unless you are doing a project car car with a 2JZ.
For any other engine layout, BMW makes no sense. Mercedes are the only Germans I expect to make really good V8s. |
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Date: July 26th, 2023 5:33 PM Author: Floppy casino 99.9 percent of people do not give a shit about the engine. they care about the stigma of the car. bmw has a long way to break the striver identity or the "Junior Analysist Roadster" label. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46593849) |
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Date: August 1st, 2023 4:11 PM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven Has Volvo ever produced a dud? I remember the 850 well. Back in that era it seemed like every time they took a gamble the results were good. I feel like that's always a safe compromise if you feel like you need to own a European car for signaling purposes.
EDIT: I think the S60 was a flop at one time and used ones were going for super cheap |
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Date: July 26th, 2023 6:12 PM Author: jet-lagged clear rehab legal warrant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46594030) |
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Date: July 26th, 2023 5:55 PM Author: Balding public bath I've owned MB, BMW and Audi. Much prefer Audi for the driving experience and reliability. Now have an A8 L 4.0. 2002 A6 2.7T had a timing belt. Replacing it required removing the front of the car. I prefer chains. Belts seem to be fading in popularity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46593938) |
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Date: July 26th, 2023 10:15 PM Author: crawly white international law enforcement agency MB dramatically improved its driving experience in early 2010s with 4matic and trickle down externalities from bringing AMG in house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46594982) |
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Date: July 26th, 2023 6:11 PM Author: ruby aggressive church building becky whats with OP making bmw great/ audi shit threads every other day with ridiculous alts? is this some sort of coping mechanism after getting picked on for being a Beamer-Boy?
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Date: July 26th, 2023 6:16 PM Author: jet-lagged clear rehab legal warrant He's a weird kike posting from a care home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46594048) |
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Date: July 26th, 2023 6:17 PM Author: vigorous parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46594051) |
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Date: July 26th, 2023 6:41 PM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven I assume 4cyl Audis are fine. If I wanted a German 4cyl I would consider them. For 6cyl I wouldn't trust anyone but BMW or Porsche. For 8cyl I would look at Mercedes. It's not that I think Audi is shitty, just that I have no reason to think are good at making big powerful engines. Their AWD system is great and it's what I think keeps them in the running, but you don't need a yuge engine to have good AWD. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46594155) |
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Date: July 26th, 2023 6:48 PM Author: jet-lagged clear rehab legal warrant You can't afford any car you unemployed schizo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46594171) |
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Date: August 1st, 2023 1:42 PM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven When did I ever say BMW is great? They make some good straight sixes and their motorcycle engines are cool. Honda and BMW are the only motorcycles I would consider owning, and I'd probably go with BMW. Their stick shifts feel nice to drive too. I like Honda sticks better in general, but the M5 is probably nicest stick shift I've ever driven. As for Audi, I think they have the best AWD system, with Subaru a close second. I don't expect them to stand out in any other way, and as far as I can tell they never have.
I also think Mercedes makes some quality shit. I especially like their diesels, which you cannot get in the USA any longer unless you're getting a Dodge Sprinter. Even used, there are issues with the Bluetechs. If I had to pick one car to drive for the rest of my life it could be a 300D and run biodiesel as needed. You can also run biodiesel in pre-1986 diesel Land Cruisers with some mods. |
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Date: August 1st, 2023 2:54 PM Author: Misanthropic state lettuce the level of mental illness to bump this thread and then delve into this autistic detail is breathtaking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46616866) |
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Date: August 1st, 2023 3:59 PM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven Engine design was largely perfected decades ago. The 3800 V6, the volvo redblock, etc. We haven't made any huge leaps recently. Furthermore straight sixes is to be a lot more common. Old Dodge pickup trucks had them. It's only recently that they've all but vanished. I don't think anyone makes one except BMW anymore. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#46617151) |
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Date: August 1st, 2023 4:04 PM Author: Lemon Bonkers Heaven PS look at who owns V8s in the 20th century. No Germans. Look at #1. Design is old as fuck.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ward%27s_10_Best_Engines#20th_century |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 2:39 PM Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK OP here. Recently met a Hispanic dood on DACA who specializes in these engines. He says he's the only guy who will work on them, so he's always got customers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5377996&forum_id=2Elisa#49379331) |