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Stopped Payment On $100 Check For Shady Prole Goy Sprinkler Guy
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Date: April 15th, 2024 3:30 PM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank in the new house a lot of our sprinklers aren't working properly and/or we have mediocre coverage.
these irrigation guys and want like $100 for a "sprinkler assessment" and dont give free estimates. found a guy who had fabulous good google reviews and nextdoor reviews, and figured what the hell can i do.
he comes out and basically just counting sprinklers and then gives us an estimate on the spot to replace every single sprinkler head and rotor, and do no other work. he was charging $15 per sprinkler and $25 per rotor, which i later determined to be like a 100% markup.... plus 8 man-hours of labor (2 guys x 4 hrs). total is $1600
gave him a $100 check on the spot. that afternoon, i did some research and called sprinkler stores for prices and also talked to our lawn guy who said his prices are highway robbery and changing out every single sprinkler even if they're not broken is a waste. then decided to stop payment on the check.
got another estimate today from a guy i used at the old house, and guy said only a few sprinklers need to be replaced and more work needs to be spent moving them around to better places, and said he could make the system way better for like $500.
haven't heard from him yet. should i proactively tell him, or wait for him to contact me?
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Date: April 15th, 2024 3:33 PM Author: Bonkers space Contract has already been formed and if you read the fine print we are entitled to attorneys fees for any collection efforts we must make. You are in breach. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47585280) |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 3:36 PM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank poor rc? there was no written contract (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47585292) |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 3:50 PM Author: Bonkers space (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47585345) |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 4:31 PM Author: Lascivious Gaming Laptop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47585439) |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 3:54 PM Author: Free-loading background story trump supporter Not worth getting charged for issuing a bad check and losing your law license. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47585360) |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 7:50 PM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank That requires intent at the time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47586002) |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 10:07 PM Author: Free-loading background story trump supporter I am sure the 70 IQ negros on the jury will parce out the elements of the local statute. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47586384) |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 11:02 PM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank yeah a $100 check misdo is going to a jury (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47586548) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 9:57 AM Author: Free-loading background story trump supporter I am sure the 100 IQ judge will have mercy on him then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47587087) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 12:05 PM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank do u even law? the 100 iq DA isn't going to charge a misdo over a $100 stopped payment check against a wealthy lawyer who can obviously defend himself, where there's a strong defense (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47587228) |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 3:57 PM Author: irradiated ruby mediation This seems like one of the best businesses to start and run. Very simple systems, but people think they are complicated. Inventory is cheap and fungible. Minimal tools needed. You could probably gross $500/day just running around in a truck by yourself after a year building a business. Expand with some Mexicans if you want to suffer that pain. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47585368) |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 4:02 PM Author: Laughsome Azure Field so you agreed for the guy to come out for $100 and he did and now you won't pay him? sounds like you are just stealing/scamming yet again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47585389) |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 4:04 PM Author: Razzle Crimson Church Building Hominid obviously tcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47585393) |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 5:51 PM Author: Titillating Crotch dbg's actions are supported by talmudic law (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47585700) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 12:30 PM Author: kink-friendly painfully honest market Increasingly looks like they're required (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47587249) |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 7:51 PM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank I agreed that he’d come out and give me an estimate on future work in good faith. He acted in bad faith (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47586008) |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 10:59 PM Author: Laughsome Azure Field No he didn’t. You know jack shit about sprinklers and it’s just as likely the lowball people you’re now dealing with are actually acting in bad faith and selling you cut rate shit that will go to crap in the long term (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47586539) |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 11:02 PM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank one of the estimates is from our trusted lawn guy who is expensive for but does a really good job. this guy doesnt low ball (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47586546) |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 4:29 PM Author: emerald hilarious senate stain You're a piece of shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47585437) |
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Date: June 10th, 2024 10:01 PM Author: honey-headed anal toilet seat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47735961) |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 4:30 PM Author: Infuriating Alcoholic Shrine Generalized Bond Sometimes I wonder if it may not be strictly necessary to literally kill every Jew on planet Earth
Then I encounter something like this and am reminded that yeah, it just has to be done |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 4:57 PM Author: claret marvelous filthpig university Before encountering dbg, who almost single handedly turned me into an antisemite, I actually had a pretty good opinion of Jews. The high IQ, the Nobel prizes, etc. I was in Whitehorse, YT one time when I met this Jewish lawyer who later suicided. I'd never met a jew when i lived in the southern US, and I certainly didn't expect to meet one in Whitehorse, so I reacted with some surprise. "Whoa, you're Jewish?" I asked. His reaction really threw me for a loop. He seemed offended and combative, even though I meant nothing by it. "Oh... uh... yeah, my in laws are Jewish (they're actually chinks). Just hadn't met one this far north..." I stammered in response.
For some time I wondered why he'd reacted that way. But after interacting with DBG, I now realize why. It's because Jews are complete shit, and they know it. He must have been particularly self aware, seeing as he killedself.
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Date: April 15th, 2024 5:10 PM Author: stirring brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47585566) |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 5:24 PM Author: emerald hilarious senate stain cr on xo jews increasing my personal antisemitism (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47585612) |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 5:32 PM Author: Infuriating Alcoholic Shrine Generalized Bond 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47585635) |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 5:01 PM Author: claret marvelous filthpig university I hope he pwns you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47585540) |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 5:47 PM Author: Aqua Seedy Theater Roast Beef whoa you passed a negotiable instrument in commerce under false pretenses? hope you're not a member of the bar, lol.... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47585691) |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 7:52 PM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank No. At the time I didn’t realize he was fraud. Upon later investigation I realized it was fraud. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47586013) |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 8:15 PM Author: Provocative Cobalt Nibblets Why don't you focus your scams on multi national conglomerates? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47586046) |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 8:45 PM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank he tried to scam me (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47586123) |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 8:51 PM Author: Provocative Cobalt Nibblets Actually, I hope you keep this shit up vis a vis prole goys. One of these guys is going to stomp your head in one of these days and THAT will be some 180 content. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47586138) |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 11:03 PM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank ive hired about 25 different prole goyim in the past 2 months to do work on our old house for selling or our new house, and i've got 180 work product from the vast, vast majority. most of these prole goyim are amazing and i even tip! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47586551) |
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Date: June 10th, 2024 5:59 PM Author: Provocative Cobalt Nibblets Still desperately hoping you get your fucking ass beat for this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47735210) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 7:50 AM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank wrote the asshole a 2 page letter on letterhead explaining why i stopped payment, i.e., that i discovered after i paid him in good faith that he acted in bad faith and didnt hold his end of the bargain.
he didnt know yet that i stopped payment and i wanted to make it clear to him that i'm lawful in doing so |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 9:58 AM Author: Free-loading background story trump supporter Just drive to his house and give him $100 cash. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47587088) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 12:08 PM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank why would i do that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47587232) |
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Date: May 31st, 2024 2:08 PM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank UPDATE: so a week later he writes me saying he got charged a $35 fee for the bounced check and he's demanding the $100 plus the $35 bank fee otherwise he's gonna put a lien on our house and.
i told him he's entitled to nothing and there's no basis for a lien for giving an estimate and doing no actual work, and if he attempts to put a lien on our house we'll defend ourselves to the full extent of the law and pursue all available counterclaims and damages.
so he writes back saying it's unethical for me to use my letterhead (i just have my name and esq attorney at law) to threaten to sue him, and he's gonna report me to the prosecutor's office and the state bar (even though i'm not even a member of the are country state bar) for handing a fraudulent check unless i pay up.
i said i didn't threaten you, you threatened me and i said we'd defend ourselves. i said i'll agree to pay your bank fee of $35 as full and final settlement and put the settlement language in there, please respond in 2 days if you accept otherwise no deal ever.
never heard from him again lol.
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Date: May 31st, 2024 2:09 PM Author: Titillating Crotch You're really establishing yourself in your new goy community. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47707671) |
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Date: May 31st, 2024 2:11 PM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank we've had like 50-60 different prole goy workmen do actual work in 2024 between fixing up the old house to sell and on our new house. had great experiences with the vast, vast majority. most are nice honest goyim. our hvac guy is a "sweetheart" according to wife, despite xo schtick about scumbag hvac guys. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47707676) |
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Date: June 10th, 2024 6:01 PM Author: Provocative Cobalt Nibblets If you're not a member of the bar why are you sending letters which to laymen make it seem you are in fact a member of the bar? Sounds like unauthorized practice to me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47735214) |
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Date: June 10th, 2024 6:05 PM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank the letter listed an address in NY (where i'm a member of the bar) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47735232) |
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Date: June 10th, 2024 6:12 PM Author: Provocative Cobalt Nibblets Boy I hope your sprinkler guy doesn't tell the bar you told him you are a lawyer in currentstate and that you'd bury him in frivolous lit requests.
What's this guy's contact info BTW, I'd like to offer him a free consult maybe I can help you two resolve this. |
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Date: June 10th, 2024 6:14 PM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank poor RC? where the fuck did i tell him i'm a lawyer in arecountrystate? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47735266) |
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Date: June 10th, 2024 6:51 PM Author: Provocative Cobalt Nibblets Totally agree man, I just hope he doesn't remember it differently than you do. What's that contact info again? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47735387) |
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Date: June 10th, 2024 9:30 PM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank remember it differently? it's in writing, dumb fuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47735886) |
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Date: June 10th, 2024 10:00 PM Author: Provocative Cobalt Nibblets “When I was at his house, I asked politely for payment. He threatened me, said I was running a scam, and that he was going to have me arrested. He told me he’s a lawyer and knows all the policeman and he has people arrested all the time. I sure hope you’ll ask him to stop, Mr Bar Investigator, sir.” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47735957) |
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Date: June 10th, 2024 11:24 PM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank Oh yeah people are disbarred on unprovable accusations by their adversaries all the time. Guys from my high school all got disbarred like this. It was no big deal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47736185) |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 10:15 AM Author: Provocative Cobalt Nibblets That's what I want to make sure we avoid here, a situation where you end up in a deeply stupid situation having your life inconvenienced because someone else is a deceptive cocksucker.
Send me this guy's info so I can make sure that never happens to you |
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Date: June 10th, 2024 9:35 PM Author: Mustard athletic conference crackhouse He’s representing himself so there’s no need him to be barred in state. And there’s nothing wrong with putting sprinklerman on notice that he’s a lawyer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47735897) |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 3:25 PM Author: Free-loading background story trump supporter It's walking a line I would rather not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47737865) |
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Date: June 10th, 2024 5:23 PM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47735139) |
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Date: June 10th, 2024 5:56 PM Author: Motley clear box office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47735204) |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 12:16 AM Author: Soul-stirring Site Tattoo Just out of curiousity, have you ever entered into a contract, researched pricing afterwards and found out that you were getting a great deal, and then called up the provider of the services to offer them more money because they're undercharging you?
Might be something to think about when you evaluate the morality of stopping a $100 check on a guy who came to your house and probably had to arrange labor to provide you with services. |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 8:04 AM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank poor RC? he didn't do any labor or arrange any labor. it's immoral for him to even charge a fee to provide me with an "estimate." you think the bar would allow an attorney to charge a client to provide them with a rate sheet? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47736623) |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 11:52 AM Author: Provocative Cobalt Nibblets Attorneys charge consult fees all the time and then don't rep a client. WTF are you talking about? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47737203) |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 11:58 AM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank they give basic advice in a consultation, retard. a sprinkler guy giving an estimate is equivalent to a lawyer sending over a rate sheet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47737259) |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 4:59 PM Author: Razzle Crimson Church Building Hominid Lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47738108) |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 7:15 PM Author: Provocative Cobalt Nibblets No it’s not, dummy. Low IQ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47738455) |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 2:45 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy bright piazza you're in the wrong for not paying the guy his $100 fee which you agreed to pay. you can't just watch him do the job, learn from it, think i can do this better, and then stiff him -- bush league (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47737753) |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 3:11 PM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank poor rc? when did i watch him do a job? when did i learn anything from it?
he scammed me, and i got several other estimates all of which were way cheaper and had a much less retarded scope. |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 3:16 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy bright piazza OK so you think you should be able to agree to pay for estimates, and then just not pay for the highest one? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47737847) |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 3:17 PM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank no, i think i should be able to not pay if the guy acts in bad faith and provides a scam estimate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47737853) |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 4:56 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy bright piazza OK so gross margins above 50% are bad faith scams and shouldn't be allowed? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47738097) |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 5:12 PM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank poor RC? it's not the profit margin; it's the scope of work. it's giving an estimate to replace shit that isnt broken. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47738139) |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 7:02 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy bright piazza why don't you go back and read your own post. it sounded like you asked the guy for a quote for system replacement and he gave it to you. if you told him most of them work but 1 or 2 is broken, and he said replace them all, i'd want to know more about why - maybe you don't want to mix and match, or maybe his are higher quality or something. either way, you agreed to pay him the $100 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47738425) |
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Date: June 13th, 2024 10:46 PM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank poor RC? no, i didn't ask for a system replacement. i told him there's a few broken ones and a few that need to be moved around to improve the coverage. he just was going to replace every single head and not move a single one around, clearly just being lazy and overcharging -- that he didnt want to dig and move shit around means he was a scammer acting in good faith.
several other reasonable estimates all told me it's retarded to install all new sprinklers when most of them work, and they all proposed the same solution -- replacing the broken ones, and moving around a couple of them that are in retarded spots. a sprinkler is a sprinkler. there's no reason they all need to be the same brand. |
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Date: June 14th, 2024 8:38 AM Author: bat-shit-crazy bright piazza you paid for multiple different estimates? or found different reasons to stiff each of them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47746030) |
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Date: June 14th, 2024 8:55 AM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank nobody else charged me for an estimate. i'll never again pay for an "estimate" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47746085) |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 7:17 PM Author: Provocative Cobalt Nibblets So he did more than you asked him to do and still only wanted the price that was agreed upon before he did the job? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47738459) |
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Date: June 14th, 2024 8:55 AM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank poor rc? he didnt do anything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47746086) |
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Date: June 14th, 2024 12:21 PM Author: Provocative Cobalt Nibblets You asked him for an estimate. He told you the cost. He did the estimate. You stole his services. You’re a vile thief and a liar, and seemingly quite low IQ to boot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47746534) |
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Date: June 14th, 2024 4:03 PM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank low iq schtick? he didnt act in good faith by providing me with a scam estimate. any contract has an implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47747252) |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 6:16 PM Author: Soul-stirring Site Tattoo How do you know he didn't arrange labor?
He has a crew that he has to schedule. The whole point of the deposit is so that he can plan ahead, and if assholes back out of the deal, he can recoup some of his losses from having to re-schedule his crew. |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 6:44 PM Author: smoky passionate principal's office tank deposit? you seem to have really poor RC. who the fuck said anything about a deposit on work that was scheduled? u seem really low iq too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47738390) |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 8:05 AM Author: Sick mad cow disease office Humans do not hate jews enough (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518004&forum_id=2Elisa#47736627) |
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