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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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Curious round eye mediation
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
diverse hominid
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
Beady-eyed Startled Juggernaut Newt
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
diverse hominid
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
Beady-eyed Startled Juggernaut Newt
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
cracking deranged center
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
Vigorous clear puppy
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
diverse hominid
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
Magical dashing stain
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
Naked sapphire affirmative action
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
demanding site
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
diverse hominid
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
demanding site
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
demanding site
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
diverse hominid
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
Filthy odious lodge
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
diverse hominid
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
diverse hominid
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
diverse hominid
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
Flickering Private Investor Mad Cow Disease
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
Crystalline temple
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
Magical dashing stain
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
diverse hominid
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
Curious round eye mediation
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
diverse hominid
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
Violet excitant hospital
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
Splenetic location
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
Multi-colored gay wizard pit
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
Curious round eye mediation
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
Bisexual offensive crotch kitty
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
diverse hominid
  06/26/25
...
Supple costumed casino new version
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
shaky pisswyrm hall
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
Glittery hyperactive area party of the first part
  06/26/25
...
unholy macaca sanctuary
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
Indigo rigpig
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
Amber Chapel Sandwich
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Turquoise Office Goal In Life
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
diverse hominid
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
Amber Chapel Sandwich
  06/27/25
How was penn?
diverse hominid
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
Magical dashing stain
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
Naked sapphire affirmative action
  06/27/25
...
diverse hominid
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
blue rehab
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
Amber Chapel Sandwich
  06/27/25
...
well-lubricated buff laser beams
  06/27/25
...
diverse hominid
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Turquoise Office Goal In Life
  06/27/25
How is STB?
Naked sapphire affirmative action
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
galvanic cream state
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
Magical dashing stain
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
shaky pisswyrm hall
  06/27/25
...
shivering property
  06/27/25
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Magical dashing stain
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Curious round eye mediation

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: diverse hominid

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Startled Juggernaut Newt

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: diverse hominid

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Startled Juggernaut Newt

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: cracking deranged center

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Vigorous clear puppy

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: diverse hominid

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: Magical dashing stain

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: Naked sapphire affirmative action

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: demanding site

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: diverse hominid

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: demanding site

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: demanding site

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: diverse hominid

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: Filthy odious lodge

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: diverse hominid

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: diverse hominid

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: diverse hominid

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: Flickering Private Investor Mad Cow Disease

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Crystalline temple

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: Magical dashing stain

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: diverse hominid

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Curious round eye mediation

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: diverse hominid

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: Violet excitant hospital

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Splenetic location

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: Multi-colored gay wizard pit

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Curious round eye mediation

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: Bisexual offensive crotch kitty

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: diverse hominid

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: Supple costumed casino new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: shaky pisswyrm hall

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: Glittery hyperactive area party of the first part

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: unholy macaca sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: Indigo rigpig

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: Amber Chapel Sandwich

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Turquoise Office Goal In Life

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: diverse hominid

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: Amber Chapel Sandwich

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: diverse hominid

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: Magical dashing stain

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: Naked sapphire affirmative action

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: diverse hominid



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: blue rehab

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: Amber Chapel Sandwich

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: well-lubricated buff laser beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: diverse hominid



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Turquoise Office Goal In Life

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Naked sapphire affirmative action

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: galvanic cream state

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Magical dashing stain

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: shaky pisswyrm hall

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: shivering property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Magical dashing stain



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2Elisa#49053817)