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Date: April 29th, 2026 4:49 PM
Author: Aggressive scourge upon the earth point

Multiplayer gaming with friends is easy to justify because it's social but are gaming dads still putting 60 hours into AAA games and JRPGs and fantastic bespoke indie pixelart metroidvania roguelikes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861719&forum_id=2Elisa#49852079)



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Date: April 29th, 2026 4:50 PM
Author: comical yellow site



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Date: April 29th, 2026 4:51 PM
Author: Contagious frisky lay masturbator

Idk everyone but me in my gaming discord plays "slay the spire 2" and I feel left out but also don't care enough to bother playing it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861719&forum_id=2Elisa#49852086)



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Date: April 29th, 2026 4:51 PM
Author: comical yellow site



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Date: April 29th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: Aggressive scourge upon the earth point

Balatro was 180 but idk about this game, doesn't look like my vibe. And I only played balatro on ipad while doing other stuff

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Date: April 29th, 2026 5:17 PM
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Date: April 29th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: carnelian irradiated box office

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Date: April 29th, 2026 4:53 PM
Author: comical yellow site

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Date: April 30th, 2026 9:12 AM
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Date: April 29th, 2026 4:54 PM
Author: Turquoise casino

Actually, it's easier to play single player games as a parent. You have these odd, unplanned breaks throughout the day and that's when you jump on and take advantage

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Date: April 29th, 2026 4:54 PM
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Date: April 29th, 2026 5:07 PM
Author: Gold titillating plaza useless brakes

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Date: April 29th, 2026 5:08 PM
Author: comical yellow site

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Date: April 29th, 2026 5:13 PM
Author: Aggressive scourge upon the earth point

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Date: April 29th, 2026 5:15 PM
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Date: April 29th, 2026 5:17 PM
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Date: April 29th, 2026 5:23 PM
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Date: April 29th, 2026 5:16 PM
Author: Turquoise casino

I'm not spending $250 on a retro game emulator. I can use my old 3DS for that

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Date: April 29th, 2026 5:24 PM
Author: comical yellow site

This is making me want to buy a gently used GameCube and retro TV, Thank.

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Date: April 29th, 2026 5:27 PM
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Date: April 29th, 2026 5:33 PM
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Date: April 29th, 2026 5:32 PM
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Date: April 29th, 2026 5:33 PM
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Date: April 29th, 2026 5:35 PM
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Date: April 29th, 2026 5:59 PM
Author: Gold titillating plaza useless brakes

just get a AYN Thor. You can put the entire Gamecube library on there for On-The-Go Gaming.

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Date: April 29th, 2026 6:03 PM
Author: comical yellow site

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Will it allow me to relive the TACTILE feelings of being 10 years old circa 2002? Back when trying to decide between GameCube PS2 Dreamcast or Xbox was the only “stress,” or whether to perhaps take the Wild Card Option of fighting with my older sister for who got to use the family PC to play The Sims after school, the Idyllic Days of Our Poast-Modern Lives…

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Date: April 29th, 2026 6:08 PM
Author: Gold titillating plaza useless brakes

you've got All of that at your Fingertips with the AYN Thor (except Xbox, Xbox emulation sucks for whatever reason especially on android)

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Date: April 29th, 2026 6:11 PM
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Date: April 30th, 2026 12:01 AM
Author: blue associate

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I never knew anyone who had a Dreamcast back in the day. In fact, I don’t think I even knew it existed until reading about it online many years later

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861719&forum_id=2Elisa#49853185)



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Date: April 30th, 2026 12:28 AM
Author: comical yellow site

Tyty my dear Pumo :-)

I was one of the few people I knew who had one, which was so odd in retrospect because I grew up in an UMC SoCal environment circa Y2K where money wasn't the deciding factor, but quite literally a lack of awareness that the product existed in this case.

Nintendo was everywhere, Playstation was everywhere, the first Xbox (and the 360 IIRC) had a huge marketing push, but I only heard of Dreamcast when one of those cozy turn of the 21st century general hi tech lifestyle stores - "The Good Guys" (all credit to Google Search AI for refreshing my memory) located on the first story of a multistory building below Tower Records on South Lake Avenue in Pasadena, I can remember it vividly like it was only yesterday - had one set up as a demo display right around the time it came out.

My dad was a rich generous prep who didn't seem to mind that his only son (me, future Autoadmit poaster) was a born loser, because all my sisters loved playing video games and computer games, too, and I always had at least one best friend and a polite presentable girlfriend growing up, so he always bought whatever we asked for in terms of nerdy hobby stuff (usually just video games and computer games - also my mom probably saved my bacon by refusing to buy Magic cards / Pokemon cards etc. or any comic books besides Calvin and Hobbes)

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I'm gay.

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Date: April 30th, 2026 8:54 AM
Author: Gold titillating plaza useless brakes

I had one. I legit loved it. Then I bought a second at some Best Buy clearance sale for like $50. I think I still have it in the box unopened.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861719&forum_id=2Elisa#49853693)



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Date: April 30th, 2026 10:47 AM
Author: comical yellow site

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Date: April 29th, 2026 5:36 PM
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Date: April 29th, 2026 5:39 PM
Author: comical yellow site

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Date: April 29th, 2026 5:37 PM
Author: know-it-all base digit ratio

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Date: April 29th, 2026 5:39 PM
Author: comical yellow site

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Date: April 29th, 2026 5:40 PM
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Date: April 29th, 2026 5:41 PM
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Date: April 29th, 2026 5:44 PM
Author: Fighting Doctorate Whorehouse

I don’t see how there’s time or interest in the Volume Gaming that people do, especially when so many games are The Same.

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Date: April 29th, 2026 5:45 PM
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Date: April 29th, 2026 5:50 PM
Author: Aggressive scourge upon the earth point

I will never finish Nier Automata

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Date: April 29th, 2026 5:54 PM
Author: comical yellow site

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Date: April 29th, 2026 6:11 PM
Author: comical yellow site

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Date: April 29th, 2026 7:13 PM
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Date: April 29th, 2026 6:11 PM
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Date: April 29th, 2026 6:53 PM
Author: Fighting Doctorate Whorehouse

I got 1 or 2 endings. It’s not that long.

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Date: April 29th, 2026 6:54 PM
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Date: April 29th, 2026 7:13 PM
Author: Aggressive scourge upon the earth point

People on Reddit say you have to play it 5 times to finish it

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Date: April 29th, 2026 7:17 PM
Author: nubile prole foreskin

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Date: April 29th, 2026 10:15 PM
Author: Fighting Doctorate Whorehouse

there are like 26 endings

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Date: April 29th, 2026 10:45 PM
Author: Aggressive scourge upon the earth point

Yeah I read that & am despondent

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Date: April 29th, 2026 5:56 PM
Author: nubile prole foreskin

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Date: April 29th, 2026 5:59 PM
Author: comical yellow site

Sounds like an XO marketing poaster recruitment tagline to my ears

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Date: April 29th, 2026 6:11 PM
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Date: April 29th, 2026 6:11 PM
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Date: April 29th, 2026 6:36 PM
Author: Azure Jet-lagged Tanning Salon

I’m already balls deep in Lord of Hatred, u mad? Not really single player tho.

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Date: April 29th, 2026 6:44 PM
Author: comical yellow site

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Date: April 29th, 2026 6:45 PM
Author: Contagious frisky lay masturbator

That "teaser trailer" on YouTube was fucking goofy

I'll stick to Path Of Exile, Champ

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Date: April 29th, 2026 6:47 PM
Author: Azure Jet-lagged Tanning Salon

I get that PoE is "better" I guess but I'm just waiting for the sequel to leave Early Access.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861719&forum_id=2Elisa#49852514)



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Date: April 29th, 2026 6:48 PM
Author: comical yellow site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861719&forum_id=2Elisa#49852516)



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Date: April 29th, 2026 7:15 PM
Author: Aggressive scourge upon the earth point

30 minutes in and you've done everything then its the Same gameplay on loop as you make numbers go up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861719&forum_id=2Elisa#49852613)



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Date: April 29th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: Azure Jet-lagged Tanning Salon

police your tone when you address OYT Bringer of Justice & Light:

https://ibb.co/9H4q745q

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861719&forum_id=2Elisa#49852813)



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Date: April 29th, 2026 8:49 PM
Author: comical yellow site

Looks like a surprisingly breathable outfit for doing chores around the house / megapoasting etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861719&forum_id=2Elisa#49852817)



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Date: April 29th, 2026 10:12 PM
Author: Aggressive scourge upon the earth point

And hides his norwood

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861719&forum_id=2Elisa#49852942)



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Date: April 29th, 2026 10:16 PM
Author: Contagious frisky lay masturbator

You would make a paladin. A Bald Paladin of The Light

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861719&forum_id=2Elisa#49852951)



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Date: April 29th, 2026 10:40 PM
Author: Aggressive scourge upon the earth point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861719&forum_id=2Elisa#49853007)



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Date: April 30th, 2026 3:47 PM
Author: Azure Jet-lagged Tanning Salon

I don't see what my Hair has to do with anything, speaking quite frankly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861719&forum_id=2Elisa#49854798)



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Date: April 29th, 2026 11:09 PM
Author: light corn cake

Loser Lice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861719&forum_id=2Elisa#49853064)



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Date: April 30th, 2026 8:55 AM
Author: geriatric liquid oxygen

I don't understand how people without kids DON'T have free time to do stuff like this btw. They're just watching 5 hours of Netflix slop a night imo. I never trust a nokidmo who complains about being "busy"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861719&forum_id=2Elisa#49853699)



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Date: April 30th, 2026 9:31 AM
Author: Fighting Doctorate Whorehouse

Commute takes like an hour. And how much should a person sleep iyo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861719&forum_id=2Elisa#49853823)



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Date: April 30th, 2026 9:34 AM
Author: bull headed water buffalo

my single friend always calls up and says "if you're looking for something to do.." its like wtf i am NEVER "looking" for something to do, just tell me what you want.

he does a lot of single player gaming fwiw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861719&forum_id=2Elisa#49853832)



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Date: April 30th, 2026 10:58 AM
Author: Adventurous community account

This is video games right? Don't think I've played one since I was 19ish. Did have a nintendo back in the day. Boys do have a virtual gear of some kind, but seem to be losing interest in it the older they get.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5861719&forum_id=2Elisa#49854125)