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Date: April 19th, 2026 9:32 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle Fluffy Trailer Park
How did you get to 100s? I watched the movie, a doc and read Into Thin Air in a week. What else did you learn in the extra 90+ hours?
My main take away was there’s no fucking way I’m climbing Everest. It’s just pure misery and you’re so fucked when you get to the top you can’t wait to go back down.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2Reputation#49828212) |
Date: April 19th, 2026 9:39 PM Author: tantric razzmatazz messiness
lmao didnt even know krakauer is jewish
every single time
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2Reputation#49828241) |
Date: April 19th, 2026 9:39 PM Author: Cordovan bearded mexican
I read both krakauer's book and the MAF rebuttal book by boukreev. But it's been like 25 years.
Who are the heroes, villains? What moral lessons do you draw from it? What unique insights do you have?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2Reputation#49828244) |
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Date: April 19th, 2026 10:05 PM Author: elite plaza boltzmann
The theory is the presence of the journalist from Outside magazine (Krakauer) caused more than the usual competition between Adventure Consultants (Rob's team) and Mountain Madness (Scott's team). Krakuer's magazine was paying Rob with ad space ($55k worth; they only paid $10k in cash), and those ads would include things like the % of clients that summitted. Krakuer was also writing about the commercialization of Everest in general, so there was motivation to get as many climbers to the top as possible. But whether that influenced the late summit push (after the fixed rope delay of 2+ hours), the decision to ignore the pre-arranged turn-around time, and Rob's decision to escort Doug, isn't certain.
Maybe more directly, Pittman -- the weakest climber who the lead sherpa had to essentially drag to the top with a rope, causing him not to place the aforementioned fixed ropes and delaying both teams -- was added to Mountain Madness's team at the last minute as their journalist after Krakauer and Outside left the MM team for the AC team.
So taken together the presence of journalists, especially JK, can reasonably be seen to have changed the motivations and dynamics of the teams, and may have been a contributing cause to the tragedy, rather than a coincidence.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2Reputation#49828329) |
Date: April 19th, 2026 9:45 PM Author: tantric razzmatazz messiness
"Rowell criticized Krakauer's account, citing numerous inconsistencies in his narrative, and observed that Krakauer had been asleep in his tent while Boukreev was rescuing other climbers. Rowell argued that not only were Boukreev's actions heroic but his judgment was also prescient: “[Boukreev] foresaw problems with clients nearing camp, noted five other guides on the peak [Everest], and positioned himself to be rested and hydrated enough to respond to an emergency. His heroism was not a fluke."[5]"
lmfao at this literal kike sleeping in his tent while the heroic chad is out there saving lives, and then publishing a book where he jewishly sneers at and nitpicks the heroic dude
fucking amazing
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2Reputation#49828270) |
Date: April 19th, 2026 10:35 PM Author: cocky pink macaca
How hard is climbing Everest really? Wasn’t one of the people on the expedition a mousy small Japanese lady?
Can you just shell out a bunch of money and be spoon fed the climb. Can the typical American male train for a couple months then be good to go
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2Reputation#49828391) |
Date: April 19th, 2026 10:51 PM Author: purple school cafeteria
After watching that stuff does it make you want to climb anything or no never?
I thought this TV documentary on Reinhold Messner was one of the 180 things Werner Herzog directed. Lots of great footage. Also to the point above - all the sherpas and mountaineers died - one of the big moments is when Reinhold talks about his brother dying
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Glow_of_the_Mountains
(German: Gasherbrum – Der leuchtende Berg)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2Reputation#49828430) |
Date: April 19th, 2026 11:13 PM Author: Shivering Sneaky Criminal Heaven
Is it safer today? It's it (the safety, the experience) even worse than 30 years ago given the huge crowds waiting in line to summit? That aspect of it looks miserable.
I've thought about going for one of the relatively easier very high altitude climbs line Cho Oyu.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2Reputation#49828479) |
Date: April 20th, 2026 9:15 AM Author: purple school cafeteria
In-house at a corp, I worked with a dude who told everyone that his hobby was mountain climbing and he would pay up to do all those. His desktop background was climbing pics. Lean wiry guy, seemed pretty good shape, maybe mid 50s. Anyway, even after doing a lot of other tall mountains, he had some kind of altitude sickness climbing Everest, turned blue, maybe had a collapsed lung, got airlifted down, and had to stay in a Nepalese hospital for a month. Was already lean and he lost maybe 25% of his bodyweight. He was out of work for a few months - and when he came back, he was like yeah OK I'm done with climbing now
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2Reputation#49828934) |
Date: April 21st, 2026 8:39 AM Author: flushed native electric furnace
Everest is flame. You fly or drive over halfway to the top.
On the Tibet (North) side, you can drive via jeep to North Base Camp, which sits around 16,900 to 17,100 feet (5,200m) above sea level. On the Nepal (South) side, you typically fly into Lukla and trek for several days to Base Camp, which is at roughly 17,598 feet (5,364m).
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858541&forum_id=2Reputation#49831517) |
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