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Leopold Aschenbrenner essay on the AI arms race that will change world by 2027

Really good read and a podcast he did about it. Dude is ver...
Adventurous mad-dog skullcap principal's office
  06/12/24
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Adventurous mad-dog skullcap principal's office
  06/12/24
pretty chill that the world will end in five years and I spe...
Lascivious field boltzmann
  06/12/24
It’s part of the data set
Adventurous mad-dog skullcap principal's office
  06/12/24
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Big crusty step-uncle's house
  06/12/24
*superintelligent AI addressing the world* "I'm gay an...
Titillating Garrison Genital Piercing
  06/12/24
180000000000000000000000000000
Big crusty step-uncle's house
  06/12/24
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Adventurous mad-dog skullcap principal's office
  06/14/24
He just had another podcast with Chollet that was interestin...
light beady-eyed degenerate tattoo
  06/12/24
nothing being done in "ai" right now is a road to ...
pontificating splenetic theater stage stain
  06/12/24
This is not right. The trend lines are clear.
Adventurous mad-dog skullcap principal's office
  06/13/24
no
pontificating splenetic theater stage stain
  06/13/24
Most people seem like pattern matchers who aren’t able...
light beady-eyed degenerate tattoo
  06/13/24
llms far surpass humans at defined, stereotyped tasks that w...
pontificating splenetic theater stage stain
  06/13/24
I agree with this but most people suck at dealing with novel...
light beady-eyed degenerate tattoo
  06/13/24
this is silly
pontificating splenetic theater stage stain
  06/13/24
I, for one, cant wait for AI to do all my TPS reports for me...
exhilarant pit
  06/13/24
The interesting thing about his essay is the geopolitics par...
Adventurous mad-dog skullcap principal's office
  06/13/24
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Adventurous mad-dog skullcap principal's office
  06/16/24
Ivanka read it and endorsed it. Can’t believe how much...
light beady-eyed degenerate tattoo
  10/27/24
There’s like a five percent chance of total destructio...
Adventurous mad-dog skullcap principal's office
  10/27/24
And the other scenarios? I don’t see much room for an ...
light beady-eyed degenerate tattoo
  10/27/24
pretty sure something like Idiocracy covers most of the 90%
scarlet wonderful associate
  10/27/24
Nope. It's going to be a post-scarcity utopia, extinction, o...
Glassy Hilarious Bawdyhouse
  10/27/24
Right. Like what would be a plausible middle ground with hyp...
light beady-eyed degenerate tattoo
  10/27/24
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Adventurous mad-dog skullcap principal's office
  11/01/24
Where r we on this
.,.,.,.,,,,.,,.,.,.,...,,..,,
  07/31/26
We are currently at a point where AI has surpassed almost al...
The Penis
  07/31/26
lol we’ve got a live one here folks
.,.,.,.,,,,.,,.,.,.,...,,..,,
  07/31/26
Do you think you are more intelligent than Claude Fable?
The Penis
  07/31/26
Yes
.,.,.,.,,,,.,,.,.,.,...,,..,,
  07/31/26
At what?
valar vettiri morghulis
  07/31/26
He seems extremely gay (but I guess he isn't?) https://x....
Ceci n'est pas un pumo
  07/31/26
That’s what Alpha zoomers look and sound like now
valar vettiri morghulis
  07/31/26
lol at this super genius being a) right and b) blowing up hi...
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  07/31/26
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valar vettiri morghulis
  08/01/26
lol cr, but also, 1) he got married this week while it was b...
Kenneth Play
  08/02/26
what a stupid fucking name, holy shit
Karlspank
  08/01/26
He's German. And you're not white.
Ceci n'est pas un pumo
  08/01/26
oh no my arms are made of ai and racing around
screen memories
  08/02/26
Ken Griffin now owns this guy. Does that mean Ken griffin i...
the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)
  08/02/26
Ken did well here but it took him until 2026 to realize AI i...
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  08/02/26
Is he gonna use leopold’s mouth as a toilet?
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  08/02/26


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Date: June 12th, 2024 3:47 PM
Author: Adventurous mad-dog skullcap principal's office

Really good read and a podcast he did about it. Dude is very smart.

tl;dr version: superintelligence is within reach and the capex to get there is being spent, the teams are being assembled, the power plants built, etc.; eventually US government will step in to oversee the project as a kind of Manhattan Project because a six-month head start is the equivalent of 20-30 years in arms development; things get really weird from a game theory perspective once superintelligence is achieved but before the robots take over. It's US v. China with the Middle East and Russia posing major risks because of their abundant natural energy resources.

Essay: https://situational-awareness.ai/

Four-hour podcast: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/leopold-aschenbrenner

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#47740848)



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Date: June 12th, 2024 4:28 PM
Author: Adventurous mad-dog skullcap principal's office



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Date: June 12th, 2024 4:50 PM
Author: Lascivious field boltzmann

pretty chill that the world will end in five years and I spend my precious remaining days poasting on a decrepit law school admissions forum

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#47741056)



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Date: June 12th, 2024 6:14 PM
Author: Adventurous mad-dog skullcap principal's office

It’s part of the data set

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#47741277)



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Date: June 12th, 2024 7:22 PM
Author: Big crusty step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#47741556)



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Date: June 12th, 2024 7:25 PM
Author: Titillating Garrison Genital Piercing

*superintelligent AI addressing the world*

"I'm gay and retarded"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#47741568)



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Date: June 12th, 2024 7:26 PM
Author: Big crusty step-uncle's house

180000000000000000000000000000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#47741570)



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Date: June 14th, 2024 9:03 PM
Author: Adventurous mad-dog skullcap principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#47748063)



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Date: June 12th, 2024 7:22 PM
Author: light beady-eyed degenerate tattoo

He just had another podcast with Chollet that was interesting and raised some concerns about this LLM maximalist point of view. LLMs still perform quite poorly on ARC. There are real concerns that transformer scaling will not address all the problems with out of distribution generalization and algorithmic reasoning. This buys a bit of time and probably pushes out timelines past 2027. Things will become progressively weirder though over the next decade and it’s hard to see how AGI is out more than 15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#47741554)



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Date: June 12th, 2024 7:29 PM
Author: pontificating splenetic theater stage stain

nothing being done in "ai" right now is a road to actual intelligence. what we have right now is essentially a sophisticated version of a database that can accept unstructured queries and that can interpolate between dataset entries. it would take a complete paradigm shift to get to something qualitatively more powerful than that. may or may not happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#47741579)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 11:34 AM
Author: Adventurous mad-dog skullcap principal's office

This is not right. The trend lines are clear.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#47743102)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 12:51 PM
Author: pontificating splenetic theater stage stain

no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#47743420)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 1:23 PM
Author: light beady-eyed degenerate tattoo

Most people seem like pattern matchers who aren’t able to robustly deal with novel situations. I would trust GPT-4 more to solve a random math word problem or answer RC questions from an LSAT than most people. The interpolation/extrapolation distinction becomes less and less meaningful in high dimensional spaces when you are training on everything. I agree LLMs don’t go all the way but they very likely go a lot further than they do now and there are other things in the AI space used for game playing that look like they can be combined with LLMs to bootstrap capabilities.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#47743513)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 2:01 PM
Author: pontificating splenetic theater stage stain

llms far surpass humans at defined, stereotyped tasks that we have a lot of data for. they can't generalize to unseen environments (new probability distributions) and they lack an inherent teleology to prompt them interact with those environments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#47743680)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 2:47 PM
Author: light beady-eyed degenerate tattoo

I agree with this but most people suck at dealing with novel situations too and they can’t even do the routine cognitive tasks that GPT-4 excels at. I don’t think a median human could be made competitive with it at reading comprehension tasks. With 100x the training compute, there is no chance. There is really no principled reason why LLMs paired with model based RL couldn’t be made data efficient and adaptable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#47743890)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 4:14 PM
Author: pontificating splenetic theater stage stain

this is silly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#47744229)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 11:39 AM
Author: exhilarant pit

I, for one, cant wait for AI to do all my TPS reports for me. Whatever will I do once those are automated? Never mind that basically everything we do in Compliance is bespoke transaction monitoring and the vanilla bulk transaction stuff was automated 24-25 years ago and hasnt had humans involved in a generation anyway.

Like the biggest thing is Compliance now is marijuana and the hemp exemption BS that plagues us. The fuck is AI going to do about any of that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#47743117)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 11:43 AM
Author: Adventurous mad-dog skullcap principal's office

The interesting thing about his essay is the geopolitics part. The time when AGI is pursued by private companies is coming to a close.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#47743136)



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Date: June 16th, 2024 7:28 PM
Author: Adventurous mad-dog skullcap principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#47752081)



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Date: October 27th, 2024 3:00 PM
Author: light beady-eyed degenerate tattoo

Ivanka read it and endorsed it. Can’t believe how much AI is starting to affect elite thinking

https://x.com/IvankaTrump/status/1839002887600370145

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#48246542)



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Date: October 27th, 2024 5:15 PM
Author: Adventurous mad-dog skullcap principal's office

There’s like a five percent chance of total destruction and a five percent chance of positive total transformation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#48247027)



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Date: October 27th, 2024 6:20 PM
Author: light beady-eyed degenerate tattoo

And the other scenarios? I don’t see much room for an outcome in between.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#48247316)



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Date: October 27th, 2024 6:22 PM
Author: scarlet wonderful associate

pretty sure something like Idiocracy covers most of the 90%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#48247323)



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Date: October 27th, 2024 6:24 PM
Author: Glassy Hilarious Bawdyhouse

Nope. It's going to be a post-scarcity utopia, extinction, or some sort of truly weird outcome like everyone being uploaded into a simulation of something retarded for eternity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#48247333)



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Date: October 27th, 2024 8:36 PM
Author: light beady-eyed degenerate tattoo

Right. Like what would be a plausible middle ground with hyper intelligent machines? You would have to believe intelligence tops at exactly the human level, when we have many reasons for believing that is not the case. Life can not go on in a normal way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#48247755)



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Date: November 1st, 2024 9:37 PM
Author: Adventurous mad-dog skullcap principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#48270046)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 12:16 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,,,,.,,.,.,.,...,,..,,


Where r we on this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#50035998)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 12:23 AM
Author: The Penis

We are currently at a point where AI has surpassed almost all if not all humans in intelligence. And it's not even 2027 yet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#50036002)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 12:25 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,,,,.,,.,.,.,...,,..,,


lol we’ve got a live one here folks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#50036007)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 12:26 AM
Author: The Penis

Do you think you are more intelligent than Claude Fable?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#50036009)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 12:45 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,,,,.,,.,.,.,...,,..,,


Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#50036028)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 4:46 PM
Author: valar vettiri morghulis

At what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#50037372)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 1:57 AM
Author: Ceci n'est pas un pumo

He seems extremely gay (but I guess he isn't?)

https://x.com/dnapway/status/2082876150322540657

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#50036052)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 4:46 PM
Author: valar vettiri morghulis

That’s what Alpha zoomers look and sound like now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#50037373)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 4:46 PM
Author: valar vettiri morghulis

lol at this super genius being a) right and b) blowing up his fund with leverage and c) having to sell all his positions to Citadel.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#50037370)



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Date: August 1st, 2026 11:45 PM
Author: valar vettiri morghulis



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#50040160)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 12:13 AM
Author: Kenneth Play (emotional girth)

lol cr, but also, 1) he got married this week while it was blowing up, and 2) he's still up 80% or something this year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#50040182)



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Date: August 1st, 2026 11:45 PM
Author: Karlspank

what a stupid fucking name, holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#50040161)



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Date: August 1st, 2026 11:58 PM
Author: Ceci n'est pas un pumo

He's German.

And you're not white.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#50040176)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 12:14 AM
Author: screen memories

oh no my arms are made of ai and racing around

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#50040183)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 12:26 AM
Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)

Ken Griffin now owns this guy. Does that mean Ken griffin is smarter, or just more valuable?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#50040199)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 12:33 AM
Author: ,.,....,..,.,.,,,,..,..,.,..,.,.,.,...


Ken did well here but it took him until 2026 to realize AI is not flame and the world won’t remain the same for much longer.

https://x.com/fundamentedge/status/2055675389767516544?s=46

He was calling it slop a couple years ago when it was clear further scaling would bring us to this point and beyond

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#50040202)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 12:35 AM
Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)

Is he gonna use leopold’s mouth as a toilet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2Reputation#50040204)