I spent the 250th Independence Day at my friend Zack's (a co-clerk and now high ranking prosecutor) parent's lakehouse. His father is a retired Army general who was visiting from Saudi Arabia, where he now spends most of his time consulting. Also attending was Cal, another co-clerk who is a deeply religious and conservative closeted gay man, joined by his sister (who I briefly mistook as another one of his ill-fated attempts at heterosexuality), my girlfriend Andrea, and one of Zach's subordinates Jeff, who Zach assured me I'd really like: an obese, gregarious soyboy, among others.

I made a smoked BBQ turkey, which was the hit dish, and I enjoyed feigning humility while basking in the accolades. Andrea spent most of the evening swimming in the lake with Zach's three year old or holding his infant son. I fielded frequent glances and comments, always signaling "you're next" and "hold on to this one, for Christ's sake." I became a little too drunk on frozen watermelon margaritas and asked General Zach Sr. some silly questions about Iran, which he fielded politely, before asking me to help drag his scull to the house. I was thankful for the indication I wasn't that drunk by being asked to help with the task, and also being selected as the most capable man in attendance.

Before setting off roman candles and sparklers (this is a rule following family, so the good stuff was prohibited) we said a prayer. Followed by an impromptu, genuine, heartfelt singing of the Star Spangled Banner. I could practically see the Gen Z nihilistic facade fade from Andrea. On the way home she made some quips about the corniness of it as she rested her head against my shoulder. I looked over and spied her texting her Mom, gushing about me and the evening, until she noticed and hid away like a playful girl, giving me a wry smile and settling back on my shoulder, but with her screen positioned so that I couldn't catch another glance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882253&forum_id=2Reputation#49996156)

She's mocking you, which she and I have told you repeatedly. The reason I didn't join the call is I don't want to humiliate you for entertainment. She didn't call back because trolling you got boring, something she's done on and off for years now, yet for some reason you keep engaging in this humanation ritual -- now publicly on xo without any concern about whether I'd want this off-bort information shared.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882253&forum_id=2Reputation#49996359)

(1) You are autistic, which makes it hard for you to read people's emotions.

(2) The woman with which you spoke did so in the same manner she always has in the past.

(3) The brother of the woman with whom you spoke says that she was messing with you, and the woman herself has said in the past that she likes to mess with you.

What are the most useful and likely conclusions that you could derive from these facts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882253&forum_id=2Reputation#49996547)

Put yourself in my shoes. Let's say you broke off contact with me, but I was in contact occasionally with your sibling. And I poasted about a conversation between her and I asking "Why does your sister think you're emotional?" And remember, you're me, someone that doesn't want IRL stuff discussed on xoxo.

What is the best, non-crazy way to address someone you have cut off contact with bringing to xoxo private offline conversations regarding your emotional state?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882253&forum_id=2Reputation#49996657)

And before you go off with a "NO U!" and defensively list all my bad qualities: what is the relevance? Whether my opinion is accurate or not doesn't matter, I'm not interested in a relationship, and you shouldn't be interested in one with me when that's how I feel about you. So let's just go our seperate ways, OK?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882253&forum_id=2Reputation#49996712)

It's the first time any of this feud has been addressed in 8 months in any format. Of course it's going to be emotional. If gunneratttt were just some random poa who lost his mind, retired in shame, and came back haunted I wouldn't give a flying fuck but he was my friend in real life so yeah it definitely hurts. And maybe some of the rhetoric is overblown but I still don't truly grasp what happened. Obviously something happened on his end and he feels like he spelled it out so it is what it is. There probably will never be any closure but it's hard not to understand why emotions ran hot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882253&forum_id=2Reputation#49996885)

Long way of saying I'm butthurt about subthread wastelands

From the undisputed KING of subthread wastelands.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882253&forum_id=2Reputation#49996747)

also, why did you even respond to your sister with an idea? why THAT idea? couldn't you have just said "idk" or "don't" or not answered her?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882253&forum_id=2Reputation#49996696)

If you want to discuss it privately I'm available. You should consider how accurately he parses your stuff here when evaluating the accuracy of his retelling of things involving me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882253&forum_id=2Reputation#49996721)

I care about you and felt bad ending contact, but I feel like you're spiraling and that there's nothing I can do to help. The Box asked me about this back in April and she's welcome to share what I said to you, if she already hasn't already. I hope my take is wrong and you're thriving. And I hope this resolves everything.

I tried to navigate everything as delicately and kindly as possible, and I'm sorry if it didn't come off that way. I do wish the best for you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882253&forum_id=2Reputation#49996978)

i want to feel sympathy for gunnerattt here but i know that he almost certainly brought this on himself via his own choices and actions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882253&forum_id=2Reputation#49997055)