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underhanded idea he suggested
  10/06/25
fma
underhanded idea he suggested
  10/07/25
Can't wait for $150 silver... according to my calculations, ...
Charismatic Hominid
  10/07/25
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underhanded idea he suggested
  10/08/25
I bought 200 oz two weeks ago at $39/oz. I have another ~500...
Crimson set messiness
  10/08/25
Silver will catch up and exceed gold gains quickly. Now that...
180 weed whacker
  10/08/25
In March 1980, the average US home price was $55,865, the av...
Crimson set messiness
  10/08/25
lmao of course you picked literally the moment the Hunt Brot...
underhanded idea he suggested
  10/08/25
Yea. Lots of rebalancing gains to do.
180 weed whacker
  10/08/25
To be fair, "Trust me, silver is going TO THE MOON!&...
Exhilarant drunken orchestra pit
  10/13/25
No more ammo left for the banks to manipulate. No brakes on ...
180 weed whacker
  10/08/25
To be fair, LJL "Just wait two weeks!"
Exhilarant drunken orchestra pit
  10/13/25
i wish i bought moar and also miner etf GDX, gorgeous stock
Territorial aqua jewess range
  10/08/25
gold is over $4000 an ounce now
glassy sinister generalized bond
  10/08/25
I love it... gold is nowhere near it's blow off top price. I...
Charismatic Hominid
  10/09/25
Gold is in blue sky breakout. It's going to $50k an ounce.
180 weed whacker
  10/09/25
To be fair, *100k!!!
Exhilarant drunken orchestra pit
  10/13/25
here we go.
underhanded idea he suggested
  10/09/25
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Crimson set messiness
  10/09/25
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cracking area mother
  10/09/25
fuck my ass
underhanded idea he suggested
  10/09/25
GDX went to hell, 5%+ i bought $2k more cause im retarde...
Territorial aqua jewess range
  10/09/25
You fucked us bro.
180 weed whacker
  10/09/25
sooooo sorrry saar, its up premarket today at least
Territorial aqua jewess range
  10/10/25
Fuckin' close.
underhanded idea he suggested
  10/09/25
Okay might sell some this weekend 1800000
underhanded idea he suggested
  10/10/25
51 to 52 18000000000000
underhanded idea he suggested
  10/13/25
when sell
Territorial aqua jewess range
  10/13/25
Silver is going to dance around at just above $50 for a bit ...
Massive swashbuckling principal's office indirect expression
  10/13/25
ok got it ill hold forever, im retarded
Territorial aqua jewess range
  10/13/25
It all depends on what you want. If you want to be prepped f...
underhanded idea he suggested
  10/13/25
52 and climbing
underhanded idea he suggested
  10/13/25
I'm selling everything shortly. I'll get back in when it's b...
underhanded idea he suggested
  10/14/25
52 pushing 53
underhanded idea he suggested
  10/15/25
53 and rising
underhanded idea he suggested
  10/15/25
54 and rising.
underhanded idea he suggested
  10/17/25
hope u all got out like I did see u in 10 years
underhanded idea he suggested
  10/27/25
i didnt, cause im high IQ
Territorial aqua jewess range
  10/27/25
57 and rising
underhanded idea he suggested
  12/01/25
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cracking area mother
  12/01/25
58 and rising
underhanded idea he suggested
  12/03/25
62 and rising.
underhanded idea he suggested
  12/13/25
Lots of collectors who buy coins at little more than spot ar...
Jade immigrant den
  12/13/25
45x face
Massive swashbuckling principal's office indirect expression
  12/13/25
AR spot doesn't impact anything I buy, but I've noticed that...
Jade immigrant den
  12/13/25
63 and rising
underhanded idea he suggested
  12/15/25
64 and rising.
underhanded idea he suggested
  12/15/25
66 and rising
underhanded idea he suggested
  12/17/25
I'm still hodling
Crimson set messiness
  12/17/25
1800000000000 I cucked out earlier made a nice bag but could...
underhanded idea he suggested
  12/17/25
sold my last SLV @ 46.05, not its 60.23 im veddy veddy sm...
Territorial aqua jewess range
  12/17/25
Silver last December was about $30.48. Today, $66.38. Up abo...
Massive swashbuckling principal's office indirect expression
  12/17/25
TBF if u just bought SOXL in single digits in april you'd ha...
Territorial aqua jewess range
  12/17/25
I am chasing a well diversified easy-to-understand basket of...
Massive swashbuckling principal's office indirect expression
  12/17/25
I now have close to $100k in silver alone
Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle
  12/19/25
based and metal pilled
.,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.
  12/23/25
67 and rising
lfo
  12/19/25
69 and rising.
lfo
  12/23/25
70 and rising.
lfo
  12/23/25
I was regretting buying at $30, now I'm regretting not buyin...
woah
  12/23/25
Silver is going to over $100
.,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.
  12/23/25
the economy is permafucked, get in get in
lfo
  12/23/25
Don’t worry, it’ll be back to $30 by March
A sympathetic, elderly man with memory loss
  12/23/25
(sellcuck)
.,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.
  12/23/25
$71.50 silver gold $5 away from $4500
.,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.
  12/23/25
72 and rising.
lfo
  12/24/25
crypto is dead
.,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.
  12/24/25
dipping now - everyone buy the dip!
black abyss
  12/24/25
buy buy buy!
.,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.
  12/24/25


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Date: October 6th, 2025 11:15 AM
Author: underhanded idea he suggested



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Date: October 7th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: underhanded idea he suggested

fma

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49331695)



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Date: October 7th, 2025 12:17 PM
Author: Charismatic Hominid

Can't wait for $150 silver... according to my calculations, that'll get me to become an 8-figga nigga by the name of jigga

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49331716)



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Date: October 8th, 2025 6:38 AM
Author: underhanded idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49333760)



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Date: October 8th, 2025 7:30 AM
Author: Crimson set messiness

I bought 200 oz two weeks ago at $39/oz. I have another ~500 oz that I acquired from roughly 2016-2019, bringing my DCA down to about $25/oz. I wish I bought gold instead, of course, but I'm not complaining.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49333793)



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Date: October 8th, 2025 7:33 AM
Author: 180 weed whacker

Silver will catch up and exceed gold gains quickly. Now that ATHs are falling they're going to be making crypto-like moves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49333795)



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Date: October 8th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: Crimson set messiness

In March 1980, the average US home price was $55,865, the average price of gold was $550/oz, and the average price of silver was $20/oz. In other words, 101.57 oz of gold (or 2,793.25 oz of silver) bought you the average US home in March 1980.

Currently, the average US home price is $425,010, the average price of gold is $4,050/oz, and the average price of silver is $50/oz. In other words, 104.94 oz of gold (or 8,500 oz of silver) buys you the average US home.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49333807)



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Date: October 8th, 2025 8:47 AM
Author: underhanded idea he suggested

lmao of course you picked literally the moment the Hunt Brothers cornered the market as your benchmark, pumo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49333850)



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Date: October 8th, 2025 9:15 AM
Author: 180 weed whacker

Yea. Lots of rebalancing gains to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49333896)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: Exhilarant drunken orchestra pit

To be fair,

"Trust me, silver is going TO THE MOON!"

Brought to you by the brilliant OP of this thread:

https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785135&mc=15&forum_id=2

And this one:

https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785172&mc=6&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49346373)



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Date: October 8th, 2025 7:32 AM
Author: 180 weed whacker

No more ammo left for the banks to manipulate. No brakes on this train.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49333794)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: Exhilarant drunken orchestra pit

To be fair,

LJL

"Just wait two weeks!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49346375)



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Date: October 8th, 2025 8:30 AM
Author: Territorial aqua jewess range

i wish i bought moar and also miner etf GDX, gorgeous stock

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49333833)



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Date: October 8th, 2025 9:19 AM
Author: glassy sinister generalized bond

gold is over $4000 an ounce now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49333900)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: Charismatic Hominid

I love it... gold is nowhere near it's blow off top price. If it was, the GSR would be at least 40, and it's still 80. So much room for growth. Gold could top 5000 - 6000 and silver $150 at that point. Buckle up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49337444)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 4:06 PM
Author: 180 weed whacker

Gold is in blue sky breakout. It's going to $50k an ounce.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49337503)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: Exhilarant drunken orchestra pit

To be fair,

*100k!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49346391)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 6:45 AM
Author: underhanded idea he suggested

here we go.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49336141)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 6:50 AM
Author: Crimson set messiness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49336146)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: cracking area mother



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49337279)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 3:52 PM
Author: underhanded idea he suggested

fuck my ass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49337439)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 4:09 PM
Author: Territorial aqua jewess range

GDX went to hell, 5%+

i bought $2k more cause im retarded i of course will have gotten into medals at the moment they crash

sell everything

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49337517)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 5:35 PM
Author: 180 weed whacker

You fucked us bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49337777)



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Date: October 10th, 2025 8:50 AM
Author: Territorial aqua jewess range

sooooo sorrry saar, its up premarket today at least

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49338936)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 9:02 PM
Author: underhanded idea he suggested

Fuckin' close.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49338208)



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Date: October 10th, 2025 8:35 AM
Author: underhanded idea he suggested

Okay might sell some this weekend 1800000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49338926)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:55 AM
Author: underhanded idea he suggested

51 to 52 18000000000000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49345635)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:56 AM
Author: Territorial aqua jewess range

when sell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49345637)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Massive swashbuckling principal's office indirect expression

Silver is going to dance around at just above $50 for a bit and then it's going to stall out. If gold goes to $5000, silver will follow.

Most likely scenario is that there will be some event and central banks will slacken their gold buying and prices will crash 30-50% over the course of a month or a quarter. This stuff is very volatile. Selling silver for quick profit at any point above $50 is what smart money is doing. Obviously, there may be some serious tax implications to contend with. Consult your financial advisor and tax professional for further advice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49345686)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 10:04 AM
Author: Territorial aqua jewess range

ok got it ill hold forever, im retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49345718)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 11:02 AM
Author: underhanded idea he suggested

It all depends on what you want. If you want to be prepped for the apocalypse, never sell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49345834)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: underhanded idea he suggested

52 and climbing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49346366)



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Date: October 14th, 2025 12:49 PM
Author: underhanded idea he suggested

I'm selling everything shortly. I'll get back in when it's back under $30. Godspeed, stackers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49348463)



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Date: October 15th, 2025 7:27 AM
Author: underhanded idea he suggested

52 pushing 53

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49350065)



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Date: October 15th, 2025 8:24 PM
Author: underhanded idea he suggested

53 and rising

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49351890)



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Date: October 17th, 2025 4:45 AM
Author: underhanded idea he suggested

54 and rising.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49355075)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: underhanded idea he suggested

hope u all got out like I did see u in 10 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49379796)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 4:33 PM
Author: Territorial aqua jewess range

i didnt, cause im high IQ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49379829)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 6:20 AM
Author: underhanded idea he suggested

57 and rising

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49473636)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 10:03 AM
Author: cracking area mother



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49473900)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 8:36 AM
Author: underhanded idea he suggested

58 and rising

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49479367)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 7:11 PM
Author: underhanded idea he suggested

62 and rising.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49507460)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 7:58 PM
Author: Jade immigrant den

Lots of collectors who buy coins at little more than spot are complaining at how expensive it is now to put together sets.

If I wasn't so lazy, I'd start selling off some of my 100+ walkers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49507545)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Massive swashbuckling principal's office indirect expression

45x face

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49507581)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 9:05 PM
Author: Jade immigrant den

AR spot doesn't impact anything I buy, but I've noticed that AV spot is impacting the more common medieval goldguldens/ducats. That 3.5g coin isn't going to sell for a few hundred dollars anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49507691)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 8:16 AM
Author: underhanded idea he suggested

63 and rising

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49510663)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 8:55 AM
Author: underhanded idea he suggested

64 and rising.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49510694)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: underhanded idea he suggested

66 and rising

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49516558)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: Crimson set messiness

I'm still hodling

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49516584)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:11 PM
Author: underhanded idea he suggested

1800000000000 I cucked out earlier made a nice bag but could have made more, happy 4 u

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49516587)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:13 PM
Author: Territorial aqua jewess range

sold my last SLV @ 46.05, not its 60.23

im veddy veddy smart

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49516589)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:26 PM
Author: Massive swashbuckling principal's office indirect expression

Silver last December was about $30.48. Today, $66.38. Up about 118%.

Gold last December was about $2,652. Today, $4,335.30. Up about 63.47%.

Metals have saved me in 2025 and almost covered my massive paper losses in the single family home real estate sector.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49516626)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:33 PM
Author: Territorial aqua jewess range

TBF if u just bought SOXL in single digits in april you'd have been up 500% at one point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49516650)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:35 PM
Author: Massive swashbuckling principal's office indirect expression

I am chasing a well diversified easy-to-understand basket of assets. I am mostly buy and hold and I don't try to take profits or create taxable events. Silver and Gold have performed nicely this year. I have taken a 6-figure paper loss on my house though. The asset markets are a rollercoaster and continuously reinforce the idea that nothing is really real and it's all just a horror show broadcast to us through the screen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49516655)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 4:09 PM
Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ πŸ‡΅πŸ‡±)

I now have close to $100k in silver alone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49523261)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 10:46 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.


based and metal pilled

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49533582)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:58 PM
Author: lfo

67 and rising

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49522584)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 6:04 AM
Author: lfo

69 and rising.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49533143)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 9:03 AM
Author: lfo

70 and rising.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49533323)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 10:38 AM
Author: woah (hitler did nothing wrong)

I was regretting buying at $30, now I'm regretting not buying more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49533559)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 10:47 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.


Silver is going to over $100

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49533586)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: lfo

the economy is permafucked, get in get in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49533637)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 11:14 AM
Author: A sympathetic, elderly man with memory loss

Don’t worry, it’ll be back to $30 by March

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49533688)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 11:15 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.


(sellcuck)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49533692)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 2:12 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.


$71.50 silver

gold $5 away from $4500

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49534232)



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Date: December 24th, 2025 7:36 AM
Author: lfo

72 and rising.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49536452)



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Date: December 24th, 2025 8:12 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.


crypto is dead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49536500)



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Date: December 24th, 2025 8:32 AM
Author: black abyss (definite and ineradicable gauge of its upward moving)

dipping now - everyone buy the dip!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783620&forum_id=2Reputation#49536551)



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Date: December 24th, 2025 8:41 AM
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