xo: Sotomayor is dumbest justice! Ketanji Brown Jackson: hold my Hennessy
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Date: June 30th, 2023 12:06 PM Author: Purple 180 Spot
having a black doctor "doubles" the chance of survival? anyone with half a brain immediately knows that claim cannot possibly be true. it's like claiming that the rivers in a particular state flow uphill.
how can something that obviously false get into a SCOTUS opinion?
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"The difference is 99.96% vs 99.91%. And the difference isn’t even statistically significant."
https://twitter.com/tedfrank/status/1586785882580963329
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365972&forum_id=2Reputation#46494006) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2023 12:48 PM Author: Purple 180 Spot
In her dissenting opinion to the Supreme Court’s decision to strike down racial preferences in university admissions, Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson managed to pull off a trifecta: She was factually incorrect in describing the results of a study that should not be believed, which wouldn’t provide practical support for her argument even if it were accurate and credible.
Jackson claimed that racial preferences were essential in admission to medical schools because more black doctors were needed to improve health outcomes for black patients.
Specifically, she wrote, “For high-risk black newborns, having a black physician more than doubles the likelihood that the baby will live, and not die.” That claim was taken from an amicus brief filed by the Association of American Medical Colleges, which in turn was referencing a study that appeared in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
First, the study does not claim to find a doubling in survival rates for black newborns who have a black attending doctor. Instead, in its most fully specified model, it reports that 99.6839% of black babies born with a black attending physician survived compared with 99.5549% of black babies born with white attending physicians, a difference of 0.129%.
The survival rate of 99.6839% is not double 99.5549%.
The claim that survival rates for black newborns double when they have black physicians is just plain false. The fact that neither the Association of American Medical Colleges nor Jackson’s clerks could read and properly understand a medical study is an alarming indication for the current state of both medical and legal education.
Second, even if the results of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences study were accurately described, they should not be believed. The study’s comparison of death rates for newborns who have doctors of different races does not take into account the fact that black newborns have a greater likelihood of serious medical complications and the attending physicians assigned to treat those more challenging cases are likely to be white.
For example, the study does control for whether newborns are low weight (less than 2,500 grams), but does not control for whether they are very low weight (less than 1,500 grams). Black newborns are almost three times as likely as white newborns to weigh less than 1,500 grams.
Doctors assigned to treat very low-weight babies are more likely to be specialists, rather than regular pediatricians or family practitioners. Black doctors are significantly less likely to be found in those specialized fields.
More than 5% of pediatricians or family practice physicians are black, compared with 3.8% of neonatologists and pediatric cardiologists, and 1.8% of pediatric surgeons.
Rather than demonstrating the protective benefits of black newborns having black doctors, the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences study only documents that black newborns are more likely to have severe issues that increase their risk of infant mortality, and those severe cases are more likely to have white attending physicians because white doctors are more prevalent in the specialized fields that treat those complications.
The study provides no convincing evidence on whether black newborns with identical conditions would fare better, worse, or no differently with a black or white doctor.
Third, even if Jackson could describe the results of the study accurately and even if those results were credible, the finding would not support the claim that we should employ racial preferences in medical school admissions.
As a practical matter, increasing the number of black doctors so that every black newborn could be ensured to have one would require significant dilution in the quality of doctors so that the modest benefit claimed in the study would likely be swamped by the harm of less capable physicians.
In addition, matching black newborns even to this larger number of black doctors would require racial segregation in health care that would run afoul of widely accepted legal and political opposition to such practices.
Misdescribing badly conducted research to advocate impractical policy solutions is not a winning combination, but somehow critics of the Supreme Court decision fail to notice these flaws.
Washington Post columnist Ruth Marcus repeated the false claim found in Jackson’s dissenting opinion and in the Association of American Medical Colleges brief, intoning that we should “consider this sobering point.”
A New York Times editorial avoids misdescribing the results, but still embraces the faulty study, declaring that “black infants, for example, are more likely to survive under the care of a black doctor.”
Because they pride themselves as people who “believe in science,” they feel it necessary to invoke research to justify their support of racial preferences, never minding whether they are reading the research correctly, whether the research is convincing, or whether the research actually supports their preferred policy.
https://www.dailysignal.com/2023/06/30/ketanji-brown-jackson-research-racial-preferences/
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365972&forum_id=2Reputation#46501400) |
Date: July 1st, 2023 2:03 PM Author: olive spectacular property
"By all accounts, they are still stark now."
This is high school level book report-level writing. Are all her clerks URM too?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365972&forum_id=2Reputation#46498405) |
Date: July 2nd, 2023 10:02 PM Author: Razzmatazz narrow-minded famous landscape painting station
This footnote is straight outta Black Twitter lol.
I would note that the District Court was also a strong Black womyn
The majority cannot deny this factual finding. Instead, it conducts its own back-of the-envelope calculations (its numbers appear nowhere in the District Court’s opinion) regarding “the overall acceptance rates of academically excellent applicants to UNC,” in an effort to trivialize the District Court’s conclusion. Ante, at 5, n. 1. I am inclined to stick with the District Court’s findings over the majority’s unauthenticated calculations. Even when the majority’s ad hoc statistical analysis is taken at face value, it hardly supports what the majority wishes to intimate: that Black students are being admitted based on UNC’s myopic focus on “race—and race alone.”
JUSTICE JACKSON attempts to minimize the role that race plays in UNC’s admissions process by noting that, from 2016–2021, the school accepted a lower “percentage of the most academically excellent in-state Black candidates”—that is, 65 out of 67 such applicants (97.01%)—than it did similarly situated Asian applicants—that is, 1118 out of 1139 such
applicants (98.16%). Post, at 20 (dissenting opinion); see also 3 App. in No. 21–707, pp. 1078–1080. It is not clear how the rejection of just two black applicants over five years could be “indicative of a genuinely holistic [admissions] process,” as JUSTICE JACKSON contends.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365972&forum_id=2Reputation#46503064)
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Date: July 2nd, 2023 10:27 PM Author: Razzmatazz narrow-minded famous landscape painting station
I was more focused on the “unauthenticated” calculations part.
The district court just cites some admissions % stats from an expert report (and notes black acceptance is 1 point lower). However, The next page of the expert report provides the total number of students who applied, so you can see the total number of blacks is miniscule.
Kentaji obviously mystified how big John was able to find out the total number of students who were accepted with those two pieces of information.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365972&forum_id=2Reputation#46503155) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2023 1:39 PM Author: Razzmatazz narrow-minded famous landscape painting station
The Spelman/Howard JD trial judge just cherry picked some random numbers that were in favor of her argument (and ignored that blacks were still at 90 percent admissions in 7th decile while whites/Asians dropped to 70 percent).
Though this was not the focus of Professor Arcidiacono's analysis, the Court also observes that 3% of in-state, top decile African American candidates were denied admissions by UNC, more than double the percentage of their white counterparts with AIs in this decile. (See ECF No. 247-1 at 13 (Arcidiacono demonstratives) (showing 1.2% of white students and 1.8% of Asian American students being denied in the top decile); see also Nov. 10 Trial Tr. 371:23–372:3 (Arcidiacono).)
Roberta points out the raw numbers which are 70 black peoples vs 1000+ whites and Asians
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365972&forum_id=2Reputation#46504898) |
Date: July 3rd, 2023 12:57 PM Author: honey-headed self-centered field
Yeah I never really found soto to be dumb, just full of hilarious memes and sbarro shit.
KBJ actually is dumber than a rock
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365972&forum_id=2Reputation#46504733) |
Date: July 5th, 2023 2:49 PM Author: insane knife location
"Therefore, I dissent.
HAVE A BLESSED DAY."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365972&forum_id=2Reputation#46512086) |
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