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Be honest: How many of you don't wear deodorant?
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Date: January 21st, 2026 7:46 PM Author: Flesh Milk Cumskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49607496) |
Date: January 21st, 2026 7:58 PM Author: stubborn fragrant market Haven’t worn it for 5+ years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49607520) |
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Date: January 21st, 2026 8:04 PM Author: boyish rigor b-but how (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49607531) |
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Date: January 21st, 2026 9:15 PM Author: Flesh Milk Cumskin explain. do you stink? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49607655) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:10 PM Author: stubborn fragrant market I don’t think so. I work in biglol and am very sedentary other than when I go to the gym, and when I go to the gym I take a shower afterward. I wear undershirts all the time which I think helps mask my body odor. I also sincerely think not wearing deodorant has made my baseline smell less rank (by what mechanism, I couldn’t articulate coherently, but it feels true). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608687) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:36 PM Author: boyish rigor This seems plausible anecdotally (usually dont stink without it but noticeably worse 24 hours after applying) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608756) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:42 PM Author: Flesh Milk Cumskin Do you have an average amount of armpit hair compared to most guys? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608767) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 12:15 AM Author: The Donroe Ultimatum I have a lot of armpit hair but I do find that it occasionally gets unfixably stinky even after showering and in such circumstances I just shave it all off. So I’m sometimes totally clean shaven but most of the time I have an average-to-above-average amount of hair. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49610842) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 11:50 AM Author: .,.,.:,,.,:.,:,,:,.::,:.:.,.,:.,:,,.:.,.,:.::, could mean you're low T not flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49630155) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 11:14 AM Author: Flesh Milk Cumskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608563) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 11:15 AM Author: Amber toilet seat Haven't worn it since before covid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608564) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 11:27 AM Author: Flesh Milk Cumskin do you not smell? even at the end of the day? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608583) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 11:42 AM Author: Amber toilet seat After a single day, no not typically. I shower after the gym in the morning, sit in an office all day until I drive kids around until 9:00. If I have to wear a suit all day or work in the yard I'll smell. My wife is a weirdo and likes it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608611) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 11:24 AM Author: Aqua titillating business firm rarely. I only shower every 3rd or 4th day. modern grooming is mostly corporate propaganda. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608578) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 11:29 AM Author: supple hell BUT YO STANK (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608589) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:06 PM Author: Aqua titillating business firm i'm White. we dont stink. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608676) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:40 PM Author: hideous aromatic resort (guy who fucking stinks) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608762) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 1:34 PM Author: supple hell You stink. You snell like shit, balls, and pits. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608991) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 11:43 AM Author: Amber toilet seat This is true. Especially with the soaps people are using.
Sun screen is also bullshit |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 11:33 AM Author: magenta geriatric community account ill wear it if im going to a meeting or a wedding or going out to see friends but thats pretty rare these days. lmao at bothering every day to go to buccees or whatever dumb shit people do now. those marshawn lynch commercials where he sprays cfc deodorant on his cock and balls and ass really need to be the final nail in the coffin of this fraud. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608593) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 11:37 AM Author: cowardly wonderful antidepressant drug oh look the weird autistic shut ins and indians dont bathe or wear deoderant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608599) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 11:45 AM Author: magenta geriatric community account you seem pretty excited about finally discovering deodorant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608620) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 11:44 AM Author: maroon dashing fat ankles i wear it if i am at work, otherwise no. same with underwear. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608615) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:08 PM Author: Amber toilet seat You only wear underwear to work? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608682) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:17 PM Author: maroon dashing fat ankles yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608702) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 11:57 AM Author: cerise arousing boltzmann stage Smells like curry in here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608658) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:10 PM Author: stirring regret (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608684) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:01 PM Author: Iridescent Brunch I use soap with exfoliating crystals that scrub all the crust off my armpits such that it takes over 24 hours to develop BO, by which time I've showered again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608665) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:05 PM Author: floppy olive blood rage mediation ive been trying to find alternatives that work
but so far nothing works well, also normal deodorant really irritates my armpits so i have to buy really expensive shit that i feel like it kind of works but not as well |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 2:43 PM Author: Iridescent Brunch https://a.co/d/7s0WACB (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49609244) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 2:46 PM Author: floppy olive blood rage mediation lol at thinking id buy anything that jewish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49609253) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 3:02 PM Author: Iridescent Brunch Jews don't use it, go figure (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49609312) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:07 PM Author: Silver Cracking Heaven Never. I haven't even owned deodorant for years. You stop using it, I think you smell for a couple weeks and then your body adjusts, you really don't need this stuff. Also I'm a white and I don't smell bad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608681) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:31 PM Author: Flesh Milk Cumskin White guys have to wear deodorant or will smell like shit, unless they are lucky like you. I have to wear it. Do you have less armpit hair than the average guy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608737) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:12 PM Author: stirring regret y'all are nasty. i dont sweat much so i skip days in the winter, and thar makes me feel gross. are people really going without deodorant for years!? ljl. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608692) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:19 PM Author: magenta geriatric community account some of us just shower lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608706) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:24 PM Author: stirring regret you stink. people talk about how much you stink. steve jobs thought fruit and showers obviated deodorant too. he stunk. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608710) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:39 PM Author: floppy olive blood rage mediation im sure they stink but who gives a fuck what people think/say
fuck em |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:42 PM Author: stirring regret hey maybe im just conceited and overly concerned with how im perceived but id rather not walk around emiting pungent odor that disgusts everyone near me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608769) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:45 PM Author: floppy olive blood rage mediation hmm maybe u rnt indian after all (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608778) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 1:24 PM Author: stirring regret or mb its because i grew up around a bunch of stinky mfers everyone talked shit about that were oblivious to how off putting they are (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608967) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 1:53 PM Author: cowardly wonderful antidepressant drug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49609033) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:26 PM Author: Flesh Milk Cumskin Do you bros shave your pits? I heard if you do you don't need deodorant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608718) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 1:31 PM Author: Balding wild meetinghouse Quit in law school. It’s flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49608987) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 6:35 PM Author: ""'"''"" How do you know you don't smell and just got used to your own funk? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49609867) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 6:53 PM Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.) I've fucked like 30 girls since then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49609928) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 1:39 PM Author: bronze queen of the night parlor one of the few xo threads that truly has me asking wtf irl what are you guys fucking smoking? is this thread flame? why of all things give up on deodorant? |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 1:42 PM Author: stirring regret i guess i should be less suprised that a haven for antisocial dorks has so many people that think deodorant is unnecessary, but it's still pretty jarring. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49609005) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 1:54 PM Author: cowardly wonderful antidepressant drug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49609035) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 2:55 PM Author: bronze queen of the night parlor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49609295) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 3:56 PM Author: Flesh Milk Cumskin Please tell me what age to tell my son to start wearing deodorant. I started another thread on this but it died because no one on this board wears deodorant so no one can answer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49609498) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 3:57 PM Author: stirring regret when his BO becomes noticable (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49609505) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 4:14 PM Author: Flesh Milk Cumskin ty I can't imagine how stinky an xoxo meetup would be. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49609556) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 4:07 PM Author: Iridescent Brunch You're obese we get it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49609537) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 4:10 PM Author: stirring regret oh wow im shocked that the schizoid gook shut in doesn't use deodorant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49609540) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 4:01 PM Author: translucent indian lodge I only wear it to work and on dates
if you get a really fancy expensive deodorant and soap/body wash, you don't need cologne |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 4:03 PM Author: Flesh Milk Cumskin Do fancy expensive deodorants have antiperspirant in them too? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49609528) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 4:04 PM Author: Chrome Hunting Ground Volcanic Crater If I'm going out I wear it, I can get sweaty. If not, no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49609530) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 4:07 PM Author: Iridescent Brunch If you don't know why your armpits stink by age 20 you're a lost cause (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49609536) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 4:17 PM Author: Flesh Milk Cumskin Do you guys who don't use deodorant trim your armpit hair? I have no idea how you can't stink. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49609565) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 4:39 PM Author: rear naked choke Imo BO vs no BO has to do with the mix of bacteria that's colonized your skin. I haven't used deodorant for many years. I'm kind of musty by the end of the day but I don't get that full blown BO stink unless I skip a day of showering. HOWEVER, after a minor surgery that required me to use an antibiotic rinse on my whole body for a week, I get a lot smellier a lot faster than I used to. Not a fat btw, none of this applies to fats. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49609605) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 4:45 PM Author: ""'"''"" How hairy are you? I think this is also a contributor. I think your bacteria theory may be true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49609623) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 5:25 PM Author: rear naked choke Your level of interest in armpit hair ITT is a little off putting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49609726) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 5:34 PM Author: ""'"''"" I have a theory and I want to know if I'm right! lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49609740) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 5:35 PM Author: ,..,.,.,....,....,.,.,..,...,.......,.,....,.. you're an IRL faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49609743) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 5:40 PM Author: ""'"''"" this is an entire thread of stinky guys who don't wear deodorant. all of you should be ashamed of yourselves. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49609754) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 8:20 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. Wtf is wrong with you barbarians? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49610192) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 9:03 PM Author: ""'"''"" This is very disturbing. I wish we could formally poll how many do use it just to compare. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49610380) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 10:16 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. For the record, I shower every single day and use antiperspirant every single day. And brush my teeth twice a day. And wear clean clothes every day. Because this is pretty basic shit people, hfs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49610633) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 2:42 PM Author: ""'"''"" Imagine how these guys smell in the summer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49612319) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:40 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49613349) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 8:49 PM Author: you\'re the puppet I almost never wear it. Maybe if it's like a crazy high stress day and I expect to be home late. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49610327) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 9:05 PM Author: ""'"''"" Do you not stink or do you just not care. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49610389) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 10:17 PM Author: fraudmerica, ameriscam Plenty of good deodorant on offer now that doesn't cause pancreatic, endocrine, etc issues (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49610635) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:31 AM Author: ""'"''"" suggestions? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49611247) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 12:17 AM Author: ...,.,,.....,,.,...,......,...,....,.. Deodorant contains aluminum and may cause cancer. I'll pass. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49610844) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 10:18 AM Author: ""'"''"" deodorant doesn't contain aluminum -- only antiperspirant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49611381) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:49 PM Author: htt why? you can get "natural" ingredient deodorants. also, keeping underarm hair really short also knocks down the end of day funk. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49613375) |
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Date: January 25th, 2026 11:53 AM Author: ""'"''"" Is it considered normal now for men to shave? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49617221) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:51 PM Author: Tenterhooks I have been told I should wear deodorant, but I don't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49613383) |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 3:45 PM Author: ""'"''"" Who told you? I can't imagine any conversation that is more awkward. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49615068) |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 4:39 PM Author: Tenterhooks Supervisors, a couple of co-workers here and there. I can see the discomfort in people not from South Asian origin most days. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49615253) |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 7:34 PM Author: ""'"''"" How do they point this out to you? Like call you into their office and tell you stink. . Send you an email? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49615836) |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 7:44 PM Author: Tenterhooks "Close the door behind you please. Look, I don't know how to put this... so, I'll just tell you bluntly. We've heard a few complaints, I can't say by who, that... look, we love the work you do here, don't take this the wrong way... that you don't always have the best body odor. I've taken the liberty to purchase some deodorant, we call it pit stick. *takes cap off, mimics a couple swipes under his arm pits* Tomorrow, just try this. I'm guessing it's a dietary thing and it's getting blown out of proportion. I'm sorry I had to have this talk with you. Are we on the same page? Like I said, we really love the work you do here." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49615865) |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 7:57 PM Author: ""'"''"" How did you not start after this? I mean, as pro-deodorant as I am, I think I really admire your stubbornness and unwillingness to change your own behaviors to fit the demands of society. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49615894) |
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Date: January 25th, 2026 12:43 PM Author: Tenterhooks My wife loves my scent. It drives her wild and that's the only opinion that matters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49617348) |
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Date: January 27th, 2026 4:21 PM Author: ""'"''"" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49624384) |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 7:58 PM Author: constantscreen the great If you want to attract a woman you should be pheremonemaxxing. Your natural scent drives them wild. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49615898) |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 10:34 PM Author: htt does a woman's "natural scent" turn you on????🤮 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49616480) |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 10:47 PM Author: constantscreen the great No, but that’s different (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49616521) |
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Date: January 28th, 2026 4:35 PM Author: ""'"''"" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49627384) |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 10:37 PM Author: chadgpt-6 round this entire thread up to Mumbai, I'll go. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49616484) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 11:29 AM Author: ""'"''"" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49630113) |
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Date: January 25th, 2026 11:56 AM Author: harold lauder (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPMyxMyJr-0) i have never worn deodorant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49617229) |
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Date: January 25th, 2026 9:57 PM Author: ""'"''"" Like since you were a kid? Did you play sports at all? Were your peers not disgusted? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49618942) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 11:51 AM Author: Nude Six Nine Disgusting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49630160) |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 1:28 PM Author: ""'"''"" lol when did xoxo collectively decide to stop wearing deodorant? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49620568) |
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Date: January 28th, 2026 11:05 AM Author: ""'"''"" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49626396) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 1:41 PM Author: Dr_Sigmund_Floyd Haven't worn it in years. Unless you're doing manual labor you probably don't sweat enough to smell + be white + have a good diet + sweat out toxins in the sauna. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2Reputation#49630537) |