\
  The most prestigious law school admissions discussion board in the world.
BackRefresh Options Favorite

biglaw firms need to get their shit together re: en dashes and em dashes

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Crav...
Lilac heady hall tank
  03/19/18
Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.
Motley school cafeteria kitty cat
  03/19/18
it's despicable
Lilac heady hall tank
  03/19/18
Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out befo...
hairraiser fluffy library coffee pot
  03/19/18
lmfao that you're dealing with firms that aren't employing, ...
Federal lay
  03/19/18
...
vibrant fishy national security agency
  03/20/18
...
blathering laughsome marketing idea resort
  03/22/18
...
Federal lay
  05/14/18
...
i gave my cousin head
  08/04/25
Trendash for life. What the fuck?
Cracking range
  03/19/18
...
Federal lay
  03/19/18
...
white set
  03/19/18
This literally does not exist in the English language. I hav...
Lilac heady hall tank
  03/19/18
(non-peer graduate; non-peer practitioner; non-peer farmers ...
Federal lay
  03/19/18
I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a ...
Lilac heady hall tank
  03/19/18
Check out Eats, Shoots, and Trendashes
Trip Garnet Dingle Berry
  03/19/18
...
Talented son of senegal
  03/20/18
...
Outnumbered Theatre Philosopher-king
  03/19/18
...
effete passionate doctorate
  03/19/18
...
Talented son of senegal
  03/19/18
...
excitant fantasy-prone antidepressant drug
  03/19/18
Is this flame
at-the-ready spot nibblets
  03/19/18
Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effo...
180 clear cuckoldry stain
  03/19/18
Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just ...
big bipolar dragon death wish
  03/19/18
You know what is really fucking insane is when people point ...
Lilac heady hall tank
  03/19/18
cr, huge patent prole tell
up-to-no-good citrine church dopamine
  03/19/18
...
Lilac heady hall tank
  03/21/18
...
Trip Garnet Dingle Berry
  03/19/18
i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked ab...
provocative out-of-control tanning salon
  03/22/18
Good job man. We’d be friends.
Lilac heady hall tank
  05/12/18
This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if t...
cerebral vengeful mother
  05/12/18
Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases?...
Lilac heady hall tank
  05/12/18
It flips them all so they curl away from the number.
cerebral vengeful mother
  05/14/18
two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em b...
Violet sick legend mental disorder
  03/19/18
you can typically just use a voice command ime
Federal lay
  03/19/18
Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced...
lime den lettuce
  03/19/18
Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use ...
Lilac heady hall tank
  03/19/18
You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS c...
at-the-ready spot nibblets
  03/19/18
...
Federal lay
  03/19/18
Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.
Motley school cafeteria kitty cat
  03/19/18
The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a d...
Drab mewling kitchen travel guidebook
  03/19/18
Amateur! Increase the font scale setting to increase the ...
Motley school cafeteria kitty cat
  03/19/18
This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausi...
Lilac heady hall tank
  03/19/18
Very TTT. But who's going to check?
Motley school cafeteria kitty cat
  05/14/18
People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, f...
Violet sick legend mental disorder
  03/19/18
"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me...
Trip Garnet Dingle Berry
  03/19/18
Damn you're fast
Violet sick legend mental disorder
  03/19/18
That took several hours per my notebook of billables.
Trip Garnet Dingle Berry
  03/19/18
...
Violet sick legend mental disorder
  03/19/18
Brother, clients pay $620 an hour for us to care about this ...
lime den lettuce
  03/19/18
Judge: Well, I was going to rule in defendant's favor, but t...
Drab mewling kitchen travel guidebook
  03/19/18
...
Violet sick legend mental disorder
  03/19/18
nobody whose time has any value gives one solitary fuck abou...
Violet sick legend mental disorder
  03/19/18
*BEEP BEEP BEEP*
Glittery sex offender sanctuary
  03/19/18
killself
Dull community account genital piercing
  03/20/18
alt 0151
chrome vigorous stag film mad cow disease
  03/20/18
transhyphenist non bigot here
Mind-boggling navy party of the first part
  03/20/18
I see even the most elite firms -- literally Wachtell and C...
blue razzmatazz messiness church building
  03/20/18
This is — the credited criticism — so say I.
Insecure cuckold preventive strike
  05/12/18
The SGs office is the last bastion of good writing in the pr...
cerebral vengeful mother
  05/12/18
Worrying about this is the ultimate no book of business tell...
irradiated internal respiration
  05/14/18


Poast new message in this thread



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: Lilac heady hall tank

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places) file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or, god forbid, two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641306)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Motley school cafeteria kitty cat

Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641398)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: Lilac heady hall tank

it's despicable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641410)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:03 PM
Author: hairraiser fluffy library coffee pot

Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out before he jumped off the roof

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641317)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: Federal lay

lmfao that you're dealing with firms that aren't employing, at a minimum, the trendash. Point to fact, in times of great exigency, I've gone so far as to make use of a pentadash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641319)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 20th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: vibrant fishy national security agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35645246)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: blathering laughsome marketing idea resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35658763)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 14th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Federal lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#36050284)



Reply Favorite

Date: August 4th, 2025 1:07 PM
Author: i gave my cousin head



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#49155425)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: Cracking range

Trendash for life. What the fuck?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641323)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Federal lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641327)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: white set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641346)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Lilac heady hall tank

This literally does not exist in the English language. I have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641347)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: Federal lay

(non-peer graduate; non-peer practitioner; non-peer farmers market goer)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641352)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Lilac heady hall tank

I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a punctuation hardliner and literally have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641383)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: Trip Garnet Dingle Berry

Check out Eats, Shoots, and Trendashes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641427)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 20th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: Talented son of senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35645264)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: Outnumbered Theatre Philosopher-king



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641354)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:08 PM
Author: effete passionate doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641366)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Talented son of senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641386)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: excitant fantasy-prone antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641406)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: at-the-ready spot nibblets

Is this flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641326)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: 180 clear cuckoldry stain

Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641333)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: big bipolar dragon death wish

Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just replace all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641407)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:16 PM
Author: Lilac heady hall tank

You know what is really fucking insane is when people point the apostrophe the wrong way in patent cases. You see this all the time. Probably greater than 50% of the time, a biglaw firm will write about the 999 patent and have the apostrophe at the beginning pointing the wrong way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641435)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: up-to-no-good citrine church dopamine

cr, huge patent prole tell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641765)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 21st, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: Lilac heady hall tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35652523)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Trip Garnet Dingle Berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641869)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: provocative out-of-control tanning salon

i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked about patents in the goddamn constitution for fucks sake show a little respect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35658723)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 12th, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: Lilac heady hall tank

Good job man. We’d be friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#36038907)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 12th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: cerebral vengeful mother

This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if they see a straight or backwards quote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#36038931)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 12th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: Lilac heady hall tank

Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases??? I’d like an explanation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#36038946)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 14th, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: cerebral vengeful mother

It flips them all so they curl away from the number.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#36050278)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Violet sick legend mental disorder

two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em bash all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641336)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Federal lay

you can typically just use a voice command ime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641345)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: lime den lettuce

Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced with a page limit: decadent or shrewd?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641343)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:09 PM
Author: Lilac heady hall tank

Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use a hyphen instead of an en dash (and, on occasion, have succumbed) is when faced with a strict word limit. If you use an en dash, Microsoft Word records the range as two words whereas it records a single word if you use a hyphen. But it is incorrect usage and I've always been tempted to call people out for violating the word count where they hit it exactly while employing 50 hyphens in the place of en dashes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641372)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: at-the-ready spot nibblets

You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS calculus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641379)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Federal lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641390)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: Motley school cafeteria kitty cat

Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641414)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Drab mewling kitchen travel guidebook

The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641395)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:15 PM
Author: Motley school cafeteria kitty cat

Amateur!

Increase the font scale setting to increase the hyphen to 300%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641430)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:18 PM
Author: Lilac heady hall tank

This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausible deniability. Many jurisdictions, for example Delaware, now require briefs to be filed in Word format.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641456)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 14th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Motley school cafeteria kitty cat

Very TTT.

But who's going to check?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#36050314)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:33 PM
Author: Violet sick legend mental disorder

People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, fyi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641582)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:34 PM
Author: Trip Garnet Dingle Berry

"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me away, toys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641586)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 9:36 PM
Author: Violet sick legend mental disorder

Damn you're fast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641601)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: Trip Garnet Dingle Berry

That took several hours per my notebook of billables.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641760)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Violet sick legend mental disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641859)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 10:00 PM
Author: lime den lettuce

Brother, clients pay $620 an hour for us to care about this so we can maintain credibility and prestige with judges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641748)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: Drab mewling kitchen travel guidebook

Judge: Well, I was going to rule in defendant's favor, but then I noticed inconsistent em-dashes. Summary judgment for the plaintiff!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641758)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Violet sick legend mental disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641861)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Violet sick legend mental disorder

nobody whose time has any value gives one solitary fuck about this. its all dipshit mid level associates one upping each other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641868)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: Glittery sex offender sanctuary

*BEEP BEEP BEEP*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35641759)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 20th, 2018 12:49 PM
Author: Dull community account genital piercing

killself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35645224)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 20th, 2018 12:51 PM
Author: chrome vigorous stag film mad cow disease

alt 0151

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35645233)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 20th, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: Mind-boggling navy party of the first part

transhyphenist non bigot here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35645255)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 20th, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: blue razzmatazz messiness church building

I see even the most elite firms -- literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places -- file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or -- god forbid -- two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#35645274)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 12th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: Insecure cuckold preventive strike

This is — the credited criticism — so say I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#36038917)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 12th, 2018 10:43 PM
Author: cerebral vengeful mother

The SGs office is the last bastion of good writing in the profession. Their punctuation is always on point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#36039460)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 14th, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: irradiated internal respiration

Worrying about this is the ultimate no book of business tell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2Reputation#36050530)