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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.
insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater
  06/15/18
“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”
ultramarine hyperactive striped hyena range
  06/15/18
As I understand it.
Pale Casino
  06/15/18
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Elite House Masturbator
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Elite House Masturbator
  02/12/22
they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. th...
doobsian rebellious kitty cat
  06/15/18
oh we got a legal expert here
Chocolate school cafeteria
  10/06/21
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insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater
  02/12/22
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Coprophilia Johnny
  08/12/25
they have no debt as I understand it
Dark heady locale
  06/15/18
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Elite House Masturbator
  06/15/18
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Brilliant blood rage jew
  06/15/18
260k is a huge salary
Dark heady locale
  06/15/18
goes a long way in shaker heights
contagious halford
  06/15/18
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Free-loading University Son Of Senegal
  06/15/18
Cr. Thats city janitor money
Elite House Masturbator
  06/15/18
Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal ...
boyish weed whacker selfie
  06/15/18
How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 ...
wild big prole resort
  02/12/21
It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your cha...
Racy azure messiness
  06/15/18
they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live ...
doobsian rebellious kitty cat
  06/15/18
sounds 180
Dark heady locale
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Free-loading University Son Of Senegal
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Brilliant blood rage jew
  06/15/18
https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/myst...
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Pale Casino
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Brilliant blood rage jew
  06/15/18
https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1
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Racy azure messiness
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aggressive faggot firefighter
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Brilliant blood rage jew
  02/15/21
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aggressive faggot firefighter
  10/06/21
is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 intera...
insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater
  10/06/21
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insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater
  01/18/25
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I hate being a lawyer and want to die
  08/12/25
omg 260k where do they get off
mint low-t ape
  06/15/18
For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t ...
insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater
  06/15/18
p depressing news going into the weekend
Bright Juggernaut Stage
  06/15/18
Eat my dick nigger lover
insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater
  06/15/18
your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire...
Bright Juggernaut Stage
  06/15/18
Explain
insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater
  06/15/18
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insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater
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insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater
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aggressive faggot firefighter
  06/16/18
yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put...
stimulating pisswyrm
  06/15/18
To be fair, *Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends
supple point cuck
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insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater
  02/12/21
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Lascivious giraffe
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Brilliant blood rage jew
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insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater
  10/14/21
I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.
Bonkers Splenetic Electric Furnace
  02/12/21
holy shit out the firm
crystalline diverse skinny woman
  02/12/21
or at least give us vault range. that is really low.
insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater
  02/12/21
Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
Ruddy coiffed hall black woman
  02/12/21
it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression a...
insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater
  02/12/21
That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cr...
Ruddy coiffed hall black woman
  02/12/21
i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.
insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater
  02/15/21
They systematically overpay top performers though. If you'r...
Infuriating Nursing Home
  02/12/21
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Lascivious giraffe
  02/12/21
No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an...
Bonkers Splenetic Electric Furnace
  02/12/21
Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they ca...
Infuriating Nursing Home
  02/12/21
Better partnership odds
Razzle pearly sweet tailpipe
  02/12/21
That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner ...
Infuriating Nursing Home
  02/12/21
Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except f...
Razzle pearly sweet tailpipe
  02/12/21
(Stevie Brogan)
crystalline diverse skinny woman
  02/12/21
lol no
Brindle Principal's Office
  02/12/21
how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Clevel...
At-the-ready violent internal respiration
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insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater
  06/29/21
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insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater
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Rose Know-it-all Dilemma Roommate
  10/06/21
that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.
Flickering soul-stirring stage
  10/06/21
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insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater
  02/12/22


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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36252934)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: ultramarine hyperactive striped hyena range

“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36252952)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: Pale Casino

As I understand it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36253562)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: Elite House Masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36253586)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM
Author: Elite House Masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#43955228)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: doobsian rebellious kitty cat

they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36252972)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: Chocolate school cafeteria

oh we got a legal expert here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#43231415)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM
Author: insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#43955203)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM
Author: Coprophilia Johnny ((zurich is stained))



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#49178217)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Dark heady locale

they have no debt as I understand it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36252979)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: Elite House Masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36253066)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Brilliant blood rage jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36253623)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: Dark heady locale

260k is a huge salary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36252984)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: contagious halford

goes a long way in shaker heights

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36252989)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: Free-loading University Son Of Senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36253024)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: Elite House Masturbator

Cr. Thats city janitor money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36253068)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: boyish weed whacker selfie

Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36252986)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: wild big prole resort

How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#41935785)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Racy azure messiness

It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36252995)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: doobsian rebellious kitty cat

they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36253002)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Dark heady locale

sounds 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36253004)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: Free-loading University Son Of Senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36253030)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: Brilliant blood rage jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36253696)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: beta boistinker temple

https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/mysterybox.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36253012)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: Elite House Masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36253073)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: Pale Casino



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36253597)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Brilliant blood rage jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36253628)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Brilliant blood rage jew

https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36253692)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Racy azure messiness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36253708)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: aggressive faggot firefighter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36254559)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Brilliant blood rage jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#41949790)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM
Author: aggressive faggot firefighter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#43231423)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater

is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#43231447)



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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM
Author: insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#48564541)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#49178251)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: mint low-t ape

omg 260k where do they get off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36253074)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater

For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36253521)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: Bright Juggernaut Stage

p depressing news going into the weekend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36253537)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater

Eat my dick nigger lover

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36253786)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Bright Juggernaut Stage

your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36254215)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36254517)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36256523)



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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36743851)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: aggressive faggot firefighter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36254823)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: stimulating pisswyrm

yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36253827)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: supple point cuck

To be fair,

*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#36254339)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#41933386)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: Lascivious giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#41933826)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Brilliant blood rage jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#41949789)



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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM
Author: insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#43271055)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: Bonkers Splenetic Electric Furnace

I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#41933507)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: crystalline diverse skinny woman

holy shit

out the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#41933521)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater

or at least give us vault range. that is really low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#41933783)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: Ruddy coiffed hall black woman

Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#41933832)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater

it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#41933852)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: Ruddy coiffed hall black woman

That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#41933882)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater

i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#41949761)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Infuriating Nursing Home

They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#41933851)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM
Author: Lascivious giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#41933950)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: Bonkers Splenetic Electric Furnace

No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#41935758)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM
Author: Infuriating Nursing Home

Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#41935989)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM
Author: Razzle pearly sweet tailpipe

Better partnership odds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#41935999)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM
Author: Infuriating Nursing Home

That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#41936016)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: Razzle pearly sweet tailpipe

Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#41936043)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM
Author: crystalline diverse skinny woman

(Stevie Brogan)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#41935792)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: Brindle Principal's Office

lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#41935828)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: At-the-ready violent internal respiration

how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#41949811)



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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#42703414)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#43231403)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: Rose Know-it-all Dilemma Roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#43231440)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: Flickering soul-stirring stage

that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#43231452)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: insanely creepy fiercely-loyal alpha theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Reputation#43955207)